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Jun 17, 2018 01:01:53   #
Jean Deaux
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Michigan State University
Occupation Radio/TV host, political commentator, author, former entrepreneur
Spouse(s) Louise Hartmann

Thomas Carl Hartmann (born May 7, 1951) is an American radio host, author, former psychotherapist, and PROGRESSIVE political commentator.
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Hartmann's brain has that psycho problems. Beware of this man. His liberal/democrat/progressive brain runs the millennials wild.



You forgot that he is a dedicated mental incompetent, badly infected with terminal liberalism and of minimum intellect!

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Jun 17, 2018 01:07:28   #
Jean Deaux
 
lindajoy wrote:
Ok gladly and will do so when I get back too.
Headed to the springs to wade in the healing powers of the crystsl clear mineral springs of beautiful Colorado...spectacular view atop the mountain slope..A bit of fresh air, sun and body healing.. Just doesn’t get any better...
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Be sure to dip a toe in first Hon, a lot of that clear water is snow melt and pretty cool. But the scenery is superb!

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Jun 17, 2018 01:25:22   #
Jean Deaux
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
"lesser deeds committed by less powerful people?" Hardly! Trump's minions are falling right and left! And the Repubs were ecstatic at first when Mueller was brought in. After all, he's a Repub too! Then, as he began peeling back the layers of this Trumpian (huge) collection of illegal schemes and actions, he became the whipping boy. If Obama had committed half the acts Trump has already done, y'all would have demanded his lynching!

How you can continue to support this lying, misogynistic, dangerous excuse for a human is beyond me. Yes, we needed change, but systemically destroying our country isn't the change we needed. He's single-handily insulted and distanced America from our closest allies. America actually has a surplus, not a deficit, in our trade with Canada.
Trade with our European allies was nearly equal. But Trump just has to muck up a good thing. Scott Pruitt is busily taking action to destroy our environment. Oh wait, Trump started that landslide by deeming it worthy to dump toxic coal mining waste into clean rivers as one of his first actions as President. Big banks and Wall Street got what they paid for, and so did Trump.
"lesser deeds committed by less powerful peop... (show quote)



And in spite of all your blather, he has done a magnificent job for our future. He has managed as a businessman, not a politician, and differences in technique can be overwhelming. I ask only that you fairly look at his accomplishments in our nations financial posture. His efforts in the employment sector have few, if any equals in our historical record. His efforts have led to the lowest ever unemployment rates for blacks and hispanics and very low for women. Our stock market has achieved all time highs. He has returned manufacturing to our shores, gotten rid of NAFTA and TPP. He has reduced our welfare rolls by running illegal aliens off and getting them removed from our entitlements system, he has restored our military, worked to reverse the incredible decline in our educational achievements that declined precipitously under the previous administration: his list of accomplishments goes on for great lengths. They far exceed anything produced by the previous two administrations. He deserves well earned accolades for his many good works; to do any less is only to admit your status as a poor loser and an advocate for a failed political posture.

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Jun 17, 2018 01:46:03   #
EconomistDon
 
Lonewolf wrote:
white America hates to see people of color succeed.


That is a ridiculous statement. You must be a racist black to think it. Think about what happens when a black man takes advantage of affirmative action, gets a great education, and walks through doors held wide open for him. He succeeds and then the left and blacks call him an "Uncle Tom". It seems that leftys and blacks don't want to see blacks get ahead. Whites don't care; they are happy to give a job to whomever has the education and drive to get the job done. Also consider Asian Indians; they come to this country with advanced degrees - engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. We love them because they are smart and darned good at their jobs. I have about a dozen of them as personal friends; they are all quite intelligent and very ambitious. I trust them with any assignment. BTW, their hair is just as black as any black man's hair, and their skin is just as dark. And let's consider the white man's attempt to help poor people on welfare, many of whom are people of color. The welfare-to-work program was doing a fantastic job getting people off welfare roles and into life-sustaining jobs. Training in demand occupations was federally funded, (by white government law-makers). The program worked exceedingly well through the Clinton and Bush administrations. But it had its funding removed by Obama, A HALF-BLACK MAN. The program dried up when Obama clobbered it because states could not come up with the training money.


So is it whites who don't want people of color to succeed, or is it people of color who don't want people of color to succeed? Why are successful black men called Uncle Toms? And why did Obama defund a training program that was doing a great job of helping blacks succeed?

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Jun 17, 2018 16:23:13   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Amazing article, and perfectly on point. I try to support the office of the President, really I do, but Trump's actions...starting with the coal mining debacle and rolling faster and faster downhill from there...have been mind-boggling.

Okay, he had a cordial meeting with Kim Jong Un. First time ever, blah, blah, blah. Greatest meeting ever, we know. And achieved what? Exactly what Kim wanted, stopping U.S. military exercises with SK in exchange...for a weaker deal with NK than we had before! Blindsiding both SK and the Pentagon. Nice job.

I know some of y'all are going to bash me for this post, and I don't care. I'm not some radical lefty, and I love my country. I'm what some would call an oxymoron (don't say it) - a patriotic Democrat. Yes, Virginia, we do exist.

Amazing article, and perfectly on point. I try to... (show quote)


I’m not going to bash you for posting your view of things at all... Thank You for doing so...

Kim didn’t achieve anything but an understanding to denuc and we will consider lifting some sanctions as that is what Kim needs and wants first.. He has repeatiidly been told do so where we can verify and we will consider reducing sanctions and are going to stop military drills in So. korea.. Seems reasonable to back off of drills( he’s not removing troops) when trying to work towards peace...

Yes, I am, I give great credence to the successful effort to start a process of peace... Do I know it will happen?? No, but I surely do support the effort and pray Kim wasn’t just blowing smoke.. I do not trust him and he changes his mind any moment..

Trumps actions??
Unemployment the lowest since 2000
Black unemployment finally seeing jobs
GDP as high as 3.2 now at 2.9 last I saw
Corporate America returning.
Real jobs opening up, not two part time jobs with no benefits as we just lived through..
Strong Stock Market trends, even when slipping out of fear from investors, stabilizes in a couple of days..
Lowest number of food stamp Recipients...
Illegals being caught and put out..
Borders more secure even tho Trump has met nothing but resistance from the left..
World leaders no longer looking at us as a weak country...etcetcetc

Anyway always different ways to look at things, I just prefer to stand with Trump and the success of our country versus’ working against he and our country...

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Jun 17, 2018 17:05:07   #
emarine
 
lindajoy wrote:
1. Thom Hartman, realllllyyy???? You should have stopped right there..

2. Nice spin but none of what is here equates to Trump or anything Trump has done... He can pick his administration just as all the others have!!! Did you take a look at the number of muslims bo put in key WhoteHouse pisitions starting with Jarrett all the way down?? No outrage there, eh???

What specifically written in this left wing blog site has any merit other than pure speculation and another attempt to discredit Trump with lies in “ theory”, no less...???
Let me tell you something, theories don’t make or win cases, Wolf... I would have expected at least you to know this...
1. Thom Hartman, realllllyyy???? You should have s... (show quote)




Seems to me the link exposes exactly what Koch has gained since Trump took office... starting with pipelines, drilling, deregulation & tax cuts for the wealthy … Paul Ryan made sure Trump took care of Koch fast... now I'm not completely sold on Trump being totally crazy... just over his head & greedy looking or his cut like any other good plutocrat...

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Jun 17, 2018 18:27:50   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Lonewolf wrote:
ill look into this but please give me a link to all these camps.
I know of few of these people they work hard and many own their own businesses I think that's part of the problem white America hates to see people of color succeed.
right now I'm heading out the door to Reino





ill look into this but please give me a link to al... (show quote)



Sorry I took so long in replying the springs got the best of me ...

Anyway, I don’t typically rely on youtube but I wanted you to see this one with your own eyes and formulate your own opinion..

Video~~

http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/domestic-terrorism/terrorist-training-camps-in-the-us/660940716001

Here are a few different sites you can read to assist you..Also be sure to click on the sub sites to gain more information.. Its astounding the degree the FBI favors or doesn’t in trying to deny things of interest to them!!

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/questions-persist-around-isolated-islamic-communities

https://clarionproject.org/fuqra-files-exclusive-fbi-links-jihadi-cult-al-qaeda-16/

The Clarion Project has obtained newly-declassified FBI documents from 2003 revealing that the jihadist cult Jamaat ul-Fuqra, also known as Muslims of America (MOA), had ties with al-Qaeda in Pakistan. The group is best known for its network of about 22 Islamist compounds on American soil.

The disclosures come on the heels of the release of the Fuqra Files website, an authoritative database of information about the group.

The FBI reports show there was a counter-terrorism investigation into Jamaat ul-Fuqra / Muslims of America (MOA) in New York in 2003. One file has the heading, “American Islamic Radicals.” The reports point out, “Prior to assuming the name MOA, JUF has had a profound history of carrying out violent actions to include, arsons, bombings, shootings and assassinations.”

SEE THE FBI REPORT HERE

The reports warn that MOA serves as a conduit to foreign terrorist organizations, including al-Qaeda and its affiliates in Pakistan. It states:

“The MOA is a loosely structured U.S. based organization. Several current members in New York have been convicted of criminal acts to include murder and fraud. Recruitment most often occurs in prisons or neighborhood mosques. Once recruited, some members are selected to receive training in firearms and explosives in Pakistan.

While overseas, some of these recruits are then handpicked by high-ranking terrorist operatives, like that of Al-Qaeda, and are sent to receive more specialized training. Upon completing of their training, many of these recruits are ultimately asked to pledge ‘beyat’ [allegiance]. If they do not receive beyat, they become what source information reveals as a ‘friend of Al-Qaeda’ who are called upon no matter where he is living around the world to assist Al-Qaeda.”

Take note of the dates in these articles and take jote of the fact a few right in here that live in proximity of these camps have verified their existence.. Seen them, heard them etc...

https://www.weeklystandard.com/sheikh-gilanis-american-disciples/article/2291

Just too many articles on it wolfe.. But a few to get you started...

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Jun 17, 2018 19:13:40   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
emarine wrote:
Seems to me the link exposes exactly what Koch has gained since Trump took office... starting with pipelines, drilling, deregulation & tax cuts for the wealthy … Paul Ryan made sure Trump took care of Koch fast... now I'm not completely sold on Trump being totally crazy... just over his head & greedy looking or his cut like any other good plutocrat...


Lets start with the truth of the matter, taken from the article you put so much credence in:
Alexander Hamilton in the The Federalist Papers said impeachment is a political remedy for political problems etc., etc.... Agreed???

Next: But all of this craziness has been brought to us by over a billion dollars of money coming out of the Koch network, coming out of the Mercer family, coming out of Shelly Adelson in the last election cycle, from literally a few thousand multimillionaires and billionaires. And they have bought our government.~~~ Can this be proven or is it conjecture??

What could we say about Soros, e?? Is what we know of him different?? Sure it is, he kills people pitting countries against each other.. However, that’s irrelevant to what is being hypothesized here in this article of pure slant composed by a raving liberal progressive...🙄

Koch allies?? Says who?? Sooo who are these close senior aides alledgely claiming Trumps is “ nuts” ???

How about citizens?? Have the citizens of this country benefitted since Trump took control?? Are there more real jobs now? Has unemployment gone too a near 3% margin of error if any unemployed? Has the GDP index shown constant growth in trade?? Has the stock market hit numbers we haven’t seen in many years?? Even when it goes skidish with shaky investors for a day of two, it rebounds quickly..
Are you really saying all this is because of Koch??

Walking us into a nucleur war with No. Korea??? Well, it appears he is trying to bring us closer to peace.. I’d strike that comment all together and did...

Just starts firing prople because he doesn’t like them?? Well he certainly can and thats not an impeachable act, nor is it factual.. Comey is a filthy crook playing political roulette with any number of people.. He should have been tried for treason already and hung in a public square, right along with many more .... You really approve of what he, hills, bo, mcgabe, rosenstein, peter, lisa etcetcetc did??

Like I said, all speculation or really just a bloated opinion piece of a lib who is trying to justify his reasoning by using the Federalist papers missing the mark rather significantly..

I could go on paragraph by paragraph but its really not needed.. We can all read but its not needed....People formulate their own opinions, thats a good thing...

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Jun 17, 2018 21:21:30   #
emarine
 
lindajoy wrote:
Lets start with the truth of the matter, taken from the article you put so much credence in:
Alexander Hamilton in the The Federalist Papers said impeachment is a political remedy for political problems etc., etc.... Agreed???

Next: But all of this craziness has been brought to us by over a billion dollars of money coming out of the Koch network, coming out of the Mercer family, coming out of Shelly Adelson in the last election cycle, from literally a few thousand multimillionaires and billionaires. And they have bought our government.~~~ Can this be proven or is it conjecture??

What could we say about Soros, e?? Is what we know of him different?? Sure it is, he kills people pitting countries against each other.. However, that’s irrelevant to what is being hypothesized here in this article of pure slant composed by a raving liberal progressive...🙄

Koch allies?? Says who?? Sooo who are these close senior aides alledgely claiming Trumps is “ nuts” ???

How about citizens?? Have the citizens of this country benefitted since Trump took control?? Are there more real jobs now? Has unemployment gone too a near 3% margin of error if any unemployed? Has the GDP index shown constant growth in trade?? Has the stock market hit numbers we haven’t seen in many years?? Even when it goes skidish with shaky investors for a day of two, it rebounds quickly..
Are you really saying all this is because of Koch??

Walking us into a nucleur war with No. Korea??? Well, it appears he is trying to bring us closer to peace.. I’d strike that comment all together and did...

Just starts firing prople because he doesn’t like them?? Well he certainly can and thats not an impeachable act, nor is it factual.. Comey is a filthy crook playing political roulette with any number of people.. He should have been tried for treason already and hung in a public square, right along with many more .... You really approve of what he, hills, bo, mcgabe, rosenstein, peter, lisa etcetcetc did??

Like I said, all speculation or really just a bloated opinion piece of a lib who is trying to justify his reasoning by using the Federalist papers missing the mark rather significantly..

I could go on paragraph by paragraph but its really not needed.. We can all read but its not needed....People formulate their own opinions, thats a good thing...
Lets start with the truth of the matter, taken fro... (show quote)




LJ buddy... not the Soros VS Koch game again... you know damn well I think Soros is a Nazi putz... so how does that change anything about Charles Koch?... Seems Trump has snow blinded your better judgement … you know what Koch is all about & I know you disapprove... If Trump was clean than why the Ruddy deal of Fox... Hannity wasn't enough?... Your inflated opinion of Trump is BS... now Trump is your hero saving the planet from little Kim's nukes … why just few short month ago Trump incited the problem to begin with …. my button s bigger than yours BS goes long way in the childish stupidity department … now their both respected hero's & best of buddies?... cut me some slack here... If justice prevails trump's in for hard times, then Pence Koch's main puppet gets to play chief... check this one out & prove it wrong... http://corporatepresidency.org/koch/

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Jun 17, 2018 23:25:21   #
EconomistDon
 
lindajoy wrote:
Lets start with the truth of the matter, taken from the article you put so much credence in:
Alexander Hamilton in the The Federalist Papers said impeachment is a political remedy for political problems etc., etc.... Agreed???

Next: But all of this craziness has been brought to us by over a billion dollars of money coming out of the Koch network, coming out of the Mercer family, coming out of Shelly Adelson in the last election cycle, from literally a few thousand multimillionaires and billionaires. And they have bought our government.~~~ Can this be proven or is it conjecture??

What could we say about Soros, e?? Is what we know of him different?? Sure it is, he kills people pitting countries against each other.. However, that’s irrelevant to what is being hypothesized here in this article of pure slant composed by a raving liberal progressive...🙄

Koch allies?? Says who?? Sooo who are these close senior aides alledgely claiming Trumps is “ nuts” ???

How about citizens?? Have the citizens of this country benefitted since Trump took control?? Are there more real jobs now? Has unemployment gone too a near 3% margin of error if any unemployed? Has the GDP index shown constant growth in trade?? Has the stock market hit numbers we haven’t seen in many years?? Even when it goes skidish with shaky investors for a day of two, it rebounds quickly..
Are you really saying all this is because of Koch??

Walking us into a nucleur war with No. Korea??? Well, it appears he is trying to bring us closer to peace.. I’d strike that comment all together and did...

Just starts firing prople because he doesn’t like them?? Well he certainly can and thats not an impeachable act, nor is it factual.. Comey is a filthy crook playing political roulette with any number of people.. He should have been tried for treason already and hung in a public square, right along with many more .... You really approve of what he, hills, bo, mcgabe, rosenstein, peter, lisa etcetcetc did??

Like I said, all speculation or really just a bloated opinion piece of a lib who is trying to justify his reasoning by using the Federalist papers missing the mark rather significantly..

I could go on paragraph by paragraph but its really not needed.. We can all read but its not needed....People formulate their own opinions, thats a good thing...
Lets start with the truth of the matter, taken fro... (show quote)


That's a brilliant response Linda. I'm amazed how you can so calmly lay out the facts to demolish liberal rants. I have trouble staying cool and say nasty things that I'm not proud of. But these liberal lies and name-calling are so annoying. Thanks for being there supporting the side of sanity.

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Jun 17, 2018 23:34:33   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
And in spite of all your blather, he has done a magnificent job for our future. He has managed as a businessman, not a politician, and differences in technique can be overwhelming. I ask only that you fairly look at his accomplishments in our nations financial posture. His efforts in the employment sector have few, if any equals in our historical record. His efforts have led to the lowest ever unemployment rates for blacks and hispanics and very low for women. Our stock market has achieved all time highs. He has returned manufacturing to our shores, gotten rid of NAFTA and TPP. He has reduced our welfare rolls by running illegal aliens off and getting them removed from our entitlements system, he has restored our military, worked to reverse the incredible decline in our educational achievements that declined precipitously under the previous administration: his list of accomplishments goes on for great lengths. They far exceed anything produced by the previous two administrations. He deserves well earned accolades for his many good works; to do any less is only to admit your status as a poor loser and an advocate for a failed political posture.
And in spite of all your blather, he has done a ma... (show quote)


You are truly delusional. Get back to you (maybe) tomorrow, it's far too late to respond at the moment. I'm not a poor loser, I'm no Hilary fan, but well deserved accolades? Puhleeze!

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Jun 17, 2018 23:45:56   #
EconomistDon
 
emarine wrote:
LJ buddy... not the Soros VS Koch game again... you know damn well I think Soros is a Nazi putz... so how does that change anything about Charles Koch?... Seems Trump has snow blinded your better judgement … you know what Koch is all about & I know you disapprove... If Trump was clean than why the Ruddy deal of Fox... Hannity wasn't enough?... Your inflated opinion of Trump is BS... now Trump is your hero saving the planet from little Kim's nukes … why just few short month ago Trump incited the problem to begin with …. my button s bigger than yours BS goes long way in the childish stupidity department … now their both respected hero's & best of buddies?... cut me some slack here... If justice prevails trump's in for hard times, then Pence Koch's main puppet gets to play chief... check this one out & prove it wrong... http://corporatepresidency.org/koch/
LJ buddy... not the Soros VS Koch game again... y... (show quote)


Just two pints emarine. First, it was a well know fact that the Kochs didn't support Trump during the 2016 campaign. They put their money on other Conservative candidates, and then failed to support Trump when he got the nomination. So why all the huff and puff about the Kochs and Trump?


Second, you make a big deal about "my button is bigger than your button". If you understood the art of negotiation, you would understand that Trump is doing exactly what he needs to do. Years ago, when I studied negotiating techniques to enhance my management skills, I learned that blending with the other party goes a long way toward achieving the desired outcome. That means adopting their mannerisms and their speaking habits. It gives them a chance to trust you that you are like them. That means you could be just as silly, crazy, or even threatening. They learn to respect you and come to agreement with you. If Kim has a childish demeanor and love's his big button, that's the direction Trump must go. Trump is a master negotiator; I trust him fully.

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Jun 18, 2018 00:05:02   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
I’m not going to bash you for posting your view of things at all... Thank You for doing so...

Kim didn’t achieve anything but an understanding to denuc and we will consider lifting some sanctions as that is what Kim needs and wants first.. He has repeatiidly been told do so where we can verify and we will consider reducing sanctions and are going to stop military drills in So. korea.. Seems reasonable to back off of drills( he’s not removing troops) when trying to work towards peace...

Yes, I am, I give great credence to the successful effort to start a process of peace... Do I know it will happen?? No, but I surely do support the effort and pray Kim wasn’t just blowing smoke.. I do not trust him and he changes his mind any moment..

Trumps actions??
Unemployment the lowest since 2000
Black unemployment finally seeing jobs
GDP as high as 3.2 now at 2.9 last I saw
Corporate America returning.
Real jobs opening up, not two part time jobs with no benefits as we just lived through..
Strong Stock Market trends, even when slipping out of fear from investors, stabilizes in a couple of days..
Lowest number of food stamp Recipients...
Illegals being caught and put out..
Borders more secure even tho Trump has met nothing but resistance from the left..
World leaders no longer looking at us as a weak country...etcetcetc

Anyway always different ways to look at things, I just prefer to stand with Trump and the success of our country versus’ working against he and our country...
I’m not going to bash you for posting your view of... (show quote)


Kim didn't make any commitment to denuc. There was stronger language in place before the summit.

We'll stop military exercises with Seoul. Win for Kim.

Trump's achievements? Alienating our allies. Insulting Canada ffs! The unemployment numbers aren't any lower, but the method of calculation is.

I don't know where you live, but I'm not seeing jobs that pay a living wage. But NVM, since I'm on SSDI, which Trump wants to gut! Look around yourself! Demonizing immigrants who have been here for decades, the hue and cry is ridiculous! Illegal immigration was a campaign spin-off, a point made solely to raise a non-existing point, giving Trump something to shake his fist at. No more, no less. Who among you are ready, willing and able to work America's farms? I didn't think so. Border security wasn't an issue either. And didn't need to be. When are we going to crack down on white and Asian illegal immigrants?

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Jun 18, 2018 02:29:37   #
Nickolai
 
Morgan wrote:
Excellent article Lw and absolutely true, I can't comprehend why the people on the right don't see it.







I chalk it up to too much incest in their blood line There is a lot of that in my home state the buckle of the bible belt Oklahoma

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Jun 18, 2018 02:32:25   #
Nickolai
 
lindajoy wrote:
1. Thom Hartman, realllllyyy???? You should have stopped right there..

2. Nice spin but none of what is here equates to Trump or anything Trump has done... He can pick his administration just as all the others have!!! Did you take a look at the number of muslims bo put in key WhoteHouse pisitions starting with Jarrett all the way down?? No outrage there, eh???

What specifically written in this left wing blog site has any merit other than pure speculation and another attempt to discredit Trump with lies in “ theory”, no less...???
Let me tell you something, theories don’t make or win cases, Wolf... I would have expected at least you to know this...
1. Thom Hartman, realllllyyy???? You should have s... (show quote)





There you go again with the religious bias Haysoos Creista

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