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Jun 8, 2018 22:59:25   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
old marine wrote:
Finally a voice of wisdom speaking.

Finally a voice of wisdom speaking. br br img ... (show quote)


Thank you, kind sir!

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Jun 9, 2018 03:40:51   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
bggamers wrote:
The military teaches them THEIR way and to be responsible but they dont have a lot of time to delve into politics plus they are never in the same place in the military. These kids not in the military are still playing on there bikes going to their part time jobs living with mom and dad and thinking of college and girls and how do I get rid of these pimples .Believe me I raised 3 boys on my own.At 18 their brains are still down between their legs. sorry to be crud but its honest

That reminds me of what my grandpa use to say "Think with the head on your shoulders and not the head in your pants."

Good advice.

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Jun 9, 2018 03:46:26   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
thinksense wrote:
After reading this nonsense I again see why we have the kind of Govt. we deserve.

What the hell has age or being in the service got to do with researching the candidates and deciding, they are all crooks, as they are, and deciding to vote for "None of the Above.

You suckers are being played with your so important "voting rights", pretending that YOU have any real say in who runs this country. And you are so out of it that you will hate me for it pointing out.

GET THIS....THE VOTE IS IMPORTANT TO THE GOVT. BECAUSE AS LONG AS YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN GET RID OF THE BSTRDS BY VOTING, YOU WON'T REVOLT.

Everything else about voting is nonsense.

Think about it.
After reading this nonsense I again see why we hav... (show quote)

You need to stop smoking what ever you are smoking an return to reality.

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Jun 9, 2018 03:48:36   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
rational1 wrote:
I wrote that, of course that would mean the other restrictions, in effect at that time, NO Women voters, Only Whites. Is that what you want?

WHOM ARE YOU DIRECTING THAT RACIST COMMENT TO ?

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Jun 9, 2018 03:51:42   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Thank you, kind sir!

You are very welcome like a breath of a sweet smell of the tall pine trees.

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Jun 9, 2018 08:36:01   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
rational1 wrote:
I wrote that, of course that would mean the other restrictions, in effect at that time, NO Women voters, Only Whites. Is that what you want?


Sounds good to me! No more Hillary's!

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Jun 9, 2018 09:38:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
EileenForward wrote:
I dont know about any of you but I truly feel that along with any who are NOT LEGAL USA CITIZENS, that 18yr olds should NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
Seems to me at 18yrs old, most cant even figure out how to cook, wash, pay bills, without the assistance of mom & dad. They are still wet behind the ears and the last people to make a somewhat intelligent decision in choosing candidates to run for office.
Whats your opinion?


Welcome aboard, Eileen.
18 year olds were given the vote as another voting block for Democrats.
They are still under the tutelage of liberal teachers, and under their influence.
Then some go to college for more of the same.

I wonder!
Should college students be allowed to vote? LOL

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Jun 9, 2018 09:49:06   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
slatten49 wrote:
I agree with your sentiments. As a teenager in Viet Nam, I never quite understood how one could serve...yet, be unable to vote.


After growing up in WWII, going into service on the heels of the Korean Conflict, it was patently obvious that the single most potent weapon on the battlefield was an 18 year old infantryman. Those of us who were in the Army at that time or shortly after didn't question the lack of enfranchisement. Our training was in regimentation, blind obedience to commands of superior officers and not in pondering the essential inequity of being called upon to possibly fight and die for our family, state and nation.

If not me, then who? Certainly not my father even though he was as tough a man as could be found, he couldn't run as fast or as long as me since he carried far more weight. Any older and I would begin to resent being a soldier without a voice in my destiny.

If, and it is a big if, wars must be fought then the 18 year old numbskull is the weapon of choice. Unless our homes and families are under attack, at no other age can soldiers be wielded as a countervailing force to invaders. Young, dumb and full of, you fill in the rest.

Enfranchisement might be a suitable reward for faithful service but not for the rest of the non serving class.

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Jun 9, 2018 12:19:08   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
pafret wrote:
After growing up in WWII, going into service on the heels of the Korean Conflict, it was patently obvious that the single most potent weapon on the battlefield was an 18 year old infantryman. Those of us who were in the Army at that time or shortly after didn't question the lack of enfranchisement. Our training was in regimentation, blind obedience to commands of superior officers and not in pondering the essential inequity of being called upon to possibly fight and die for our family, state and nation.

If not me, then who? Certainly not my father even though he was as tough a man as could be found, he couldn't run as fast or as long as me since he carried far more weight. Any older and I would begin to resent being a soldier without a voice in my destiny.

If, and it is a big if, wars must be fought then the 18 year old numbskull is the weapon of choice. Unless our homes and families are under attack, at no other age can soldiers be wielded as a countervailing force to invaders. Young, dumb and full of, you fill in the rest.

Enfranchisement might be a suitable reward for faithful service but not for the rest of the non serving class.
After growing up in WWII, going into service on th... (show quote)

Unfortunately or not, your words ring true. Despite that, at the age of eighteen, I had been politically astute/aware for most of my life, and resented not being able to vote. But, in 1967, I had no choice. I served, in spite of being denied the right to vote.

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Jun 9, 2018 15:52:06   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
slatten49 wrote:
Unfortunately or not, your words ring true. Despite that, at the age of eighteen, I had been politically astute/aware for most of my life, and resented not being able to vote. But, in 1967, I had no choice. I served, in spite of being denied the right to vote.

Semper Fi brother's and sister's and all true American patriots every where long may old glory fly over the land of the free and home of the brave forever.

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Jun 9, 2018 16:53:12   #
Morgan
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Sorry, I disagree. It's our job as parents to instill civic pride and responsibility into our children, which should grow into love and respect for their state and for the country. My kids are proud and capable young adults, with keen minds, and they both vote. As they were growing up, while i did keep things to what I consider age-appropriate, I also encouraged them to be creative, independent thinkers. I'm no angel, and I'm certainly far from perfect, but I think I did a pretty damn good job, and neither young woman is wet behind the ears! Good thread, though. Maybe between 18-21 they should have some demonstrative knowledge of the U.S. Constitution, American History (not whitewashed), and general civic procedure. They should be able to absorb, digest, and intelligently discuss the key issues of the day. In other words, learn American History, basic civics and debate like I was taught in Junior High and High School (with some cultural exposure due to the various diverse places where I grew up). If they pass, they get to vote.
Sorry, I disagree. It's our job as parents to ins... (show quote)


Excellent, fully agree especially to the homogenized version of a history lesson, although many may view it as unpatriotic, the truth sometimes hurts but knowing the realities of our mistakes lets us move forward in a clearer perspective and avoid making them again.

My son just graduated yesterday, I felt the ceremony to be extremely micromanaged and drawn out due to it. This is an issue I've had with the schools. Allowing freedoms to students forces the responsibilities of their behavior onto themselves. Let them learn the power of free choice along with its circumstances, while they are beginning to merge into society as a young adult.

The schools also seem to lack classroom debate and are mostly structured as lectures. Stimulated thinking and higher cognitive learning come with different perspectives being debated, through dilemma and remedy, crucial critical thinking from analytical thinking, reasoning, and resolve.

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Jun 9, 2018 18:29:32   #
thinksense
 
old marine wrote:
Semper Fi brother's and sister's and all true American patriots every where long may old glory fly over the land of the free and home of the brave forever.


Land of the Free???? When did you last hear or seen that applied to the Occupied States of America? We ised to hear that all the time, but not in a long time now.

Where have you been the last 30 years?

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Jun 9, 2018 21:31:37   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Excellent, fully agree especially to the homogenized version of a history lesson, although many may view it as unpatriotic, the truth sometimes hurts but knowing the realities of our mistakes lets us move forward in a clearer perspective and avoid making them again.

My son just graduated yesterday, I felt the ceremony to be extremely micromanaged and drawn out due to it. This is an issue I've had with the schools. Allowing freedoms to students forces the responsibilities of their behavior onto themselves. Let them learn the power of free choice along with its circumstances, while they are beginning to merge into society as a young adult.

The schools also seem to lack classroom debate and are mostly structured as lectures. Stimulated thinking and higher cognitive learning come with different perspectives being debated, through dilemma and remedy, crucial critical thinking from analytical thinking, reasoning, and resolve.
Excellent, fully agree especially to the homogeniz... (show quote)


Exactly! Congratulations to your son!

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Jun 10, 2018 09:54:34   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Welcome aboard, Eileen.
18 year olds were given the vote as another voting block for Democrats.
They are still under the tutelage of liberal teachers, and under their influence.
Then some go to college for more of the same.

I wonder!
Should college students be allowed to vote? LOL


I say ask each person going into the voting booth what his congressmen's name is and what is the VP's name. If they don't know
send them home.

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Jun 10, 2018 11:42:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
cold iron wrote:
I say ask each person going into the voting booth what his congressmen's name is and what is the VP's name. If they don't know
send them home.


"I say ask each person going into the voting booth what his congressmen's name is and what is the VP's name. If they don't know
send them home."
At least.
You must have seen some of Jesse Waters's world clips.

https://youtu.be/oUTyRPB7AlU

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