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No, Trump can’t pardon himself. The Constitution tells us so.
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Jun 3, 2018 13:22:12   #
Morgan
 
byronglimish wrote:
Morgan, what do you call it when someone has their team destroy subpoenaed evidence?


Can we stay on topic, you guys always deflect.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:25:34   #
Kazudy
 
Morgan wrote:
Are you kidding, who many people has he fired as soon as they got too close in the investigation, let's start with Comey. Comey was GREAT when he dug up dirt for Hilary, but... then low and behold Trump surfaced and all of a sudden ...ix-nay the investigation, how convenient, oh Comey is crooked...of course he is...now...Now the FBI, CIA all crooked how many more crooked....but Jarred....completely innocent, his campaign manager....innocent...his lawyer innocent...come now man... open your eyes...Trump innocent...
Are you kidding, who many people has he fired as s... (show quote)


Comey admitted that he's crooked. Did you forget Comey said he leaked to a reporter friend of his?

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Jun 3, 2018 13:27:45   #
Morgan
 
bmac32 wrote:
So what is he blocking? His lawyer maybe but why is the paperwork not be handed over, what are they hiding?


If they want him to be impeached which is under the discretion of Congress, give me one good reason why they should do it now, the point would be moot to the Trump majority in Congress, they'd let the conspirator saboteur go free. Why I don't know, they have their agenda to keep full control and to keep at work at their fascism.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:28:20   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Morgan wrote:
I assume you think him pardoning himself is the right conclusion here. Our Framers have put in rules/laws to prevent this kind of corruption, where no one is above the law, which is why we are full proofed with a working legitimate congress, Unfortunately legitimacy can fly out the window when a party i in full control and are sworn to a person and/or party instead of what is right and just, we are heading to a moment in history when we watch to see which direction our congress and supreme court will go.


Using official powers for corrupt purposes — such as impeding or obstructing an investigation — can constitute a crime. Trump may increase his impending charges of conspiracy to obstruction to justice.
I assume you think him pardoning himself is the ri... (show quote)


Of course not moonbat. There’s nothing to pardon. Unlike you lefty’s if he’s guilty of a crime, arrest him and covict him. There is no obstruction. There is no collusion. You and the press want there to be. I get that. If you truly gave a damn about the law or constitution you would have cried foul when Comey decided no t to indict Hillary even though that’s not his decision. You guys could care less what’s right or just. Frankly you people make me sick.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:29:25   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Morgan wrote:
Are you kidding, who many people has he fired as soon as they got too close in the investigation, let's start with Comey. Comey was GREAT when he dug up dirt for Hilary, but... then low and behold Trump surfaced and all of a sudden ...ix-nay the investigation, how convenient, oh Comey is crooked...of course he is...now...Now the FBI, CIA all crooked how many more crooked....but Jarred....completely innocent, his campaign manager....innocent...his lawyer innocent...come now man... open your eyes...Trump innocent...
Are you kidding, who many people has he fired as s... (show quote)


Democrats pushed the (Right to Work States) all across this country.
But when Mr. Trump exercises his right to fire under the provisions of the RIGHT TO WORK STATE Agenda, You all start having Conniption Fits.
What the hell is wrong with You People?
Go America●Go Trump.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:29:36   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Morgan wrote:
Can we stay on topic, you guys always deflect.


Why? Just making the point that you really don’t care about the law.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:32:47   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
A better question asked is...why does he keep blocking the endeavors to find the truth, especially if he were innocent. 1+1= 2, easy

He hasn't blocked anything.

Try and name one thing he's blocked.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:34:33   #
Kevyn
 
Kazudy wrote:
It's been over a year and still no evidence. You see Mueller, Comey, the rest of America, including you and me thought that the Lying Crook WAS going to win. Mueller and Comey were big donors to her campaign while claiming that they were Republicans. You do the math Kevin.
You have no idea what evidence Mueller has uncovered, already his investigation has led to twenty individuals and 3 company’s indicted on felonies and five guilty pleas. Be patient, insist on transparency and let the chips fall where they may. What do you think Trump has had his hands on that makes him so nervous? It has to be worse than Stormy Danials hush money and Russian hooker waterworks shows.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:34:38   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Super Dave wrote:
He hasn't blocked anything.

Try and name one thing he's blocked.


She can’t Dave. She’s just another lemming.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:36:29   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Kevyn wrote:
If Mueller presents some undeniable serious felonies committed by Trump do you think the American people will tolerate him remaining in office?


1. There is no such evidence or it would have leaked by now.
2. They were ok with Hillary and other Obama admin's felonies.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:38:16   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Super Dave wrote:
1. There is no such evidence or it would have leaked by now.
2. They were ok with Hillary and other Obama admin's felonies.


Also, they never mention that none of the guilty pleas or indictments have any connection to Trump.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:39:36   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Morgan wrote:
Are you kidding, who many people has he fired as soon as they got too close in the investigation, let's start with Comey. Comey was GREAT when he dug up dirt for Hilary, but... then low and behold Trump surfaced and all of a sudden ...ix-nay the investigation, how convenient, oh Comey is crooked...of course he is...now...Now the FBI, CIA all crooked how many more crooked....but Jarred....completely innocent, his campaign manager....innocent...his lawyer innocent...come now man... open your eyes...Trump innocent...
Are you kidding, who many people has he fired as s... (show quote)



If obama was a honest unbiased leader..he should have fired comey..

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Jun 3, 2018 13:46:07   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
The president continues to block his case and knows being sworn in to be his destruction, but does he have the right? ...and if he does would that be the right thing to do for the country?
No he doesn't have that right and here's who says so:

Laurence H. Tribe, chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush from 2005 to 2007 and is vice-chair of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

Can a president pardon himself? Four days before Richard Nixon resigned, his own Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel opined no, citing “the fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case.” We agree.
The president continues to block his case and know... (show quote)
Sorry to rain on your little hate parade with the Constitution.

SECTION 2
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

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Jun 3, 2018 14:15:22   #
Morgan
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Morgan, I certainly wouldn't past the Donald to try. He is sending the message to his crew that is being investigated, or indicted that a pardon will be issued to them if they don't testify against him or if they refuse to answer any of Muellers questions. This person doesn't give a damn about protocol, or constitutionality of an action.


Exactly so, what a coincidence he being the first president to be calling for "his" people to be loyal to him above all. Comey had the gonads to refuse and morally knew where his loyalties lied, whether Clinton or Trump. He should be admired but the Trumpsters don't see it that way of course. The constitution or our country don't mean a thing to him, as the saying goes it's where ever he can lay his hat.

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Jun 3, 2018 14:18:14   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Kevyn wrote:
If Mueller presents some undeniable serious felonies committed by Trump do you think the American people will tolerate him remaining in office?


Mr.Trump has been in office now for 500 days.
If Mueller had any evidence to that effect, I think he would have presented by now. And if there were proof of felonies, Mr. Trump would be dealt with accordingly.
Just as Hillary, and Obama, we're dealt with.
No one is above the Law, are they?

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