Steve700

The leftist wants Free health care, free higher education, a guaranteed living wage whether working or not. -- and to have the government to fulfill the role of families and Christian charities. And of course by working diligently to that end, they feel themselves to be noble and caring without ever having to take money out of their own pocket.

A major problems of t leftist thinking is the fallacy of the 'Zero Sum Game. (for every gain for one person, there must be an equal loss for another, so the net change in wealth is 0) They believe that just because someone got richer that there had to be someone else who had gotten poorer. They fail to realize that there is nothing wrong with self-interest and consumption. That is what has built Western civilization. Just because someone gets rich does not mean that someone else gets poor. They view economics as if there is only so much wealth. As if it were a pie of a certain size, and it's Unevenly divided, but that is not how it is. Wealth is created and there is essentially no limit to the amount of wealth that can be created. You can

In order to be successful in business you have to create something that is equal or better at a lower price than someone else. You have to take a huge risk, hoping to make a profit, employ a bunch of people, probably borrow money and then you have a 80% chance of going out of business. In the 1st year, you're likely to not even turn a profit and then you have to do the same thing again next year. Then to make the business expand you have to innovate, do research, and development, And then along the way, people may steal your ideas and you're probably going to get sued. Then if you are successful and make a profit you're going to get rewarded, but who is going to persevere through all that if they can't keep the rewards they have so diligently earned. Beyond all that, the left doesn't really seem to take into consideration the efficiency lost by having bureaucrats run things and the fact that these hard working, risk-taking entrepreneurs are providing jobs and a livelihood for so many people. Instead, to the Marxist, they are slaves. The truth about Marxism is that it is much more about hating the rich (who have worked so hard and benefited so many) that it is about helping the poor. Understand that and never forget it. The truth about the left. Is that their ideology is much more about hating the rich (which in their ideology is the oppressor) than it is about helping the poor. (That Marxist ideology used as victims and the oppressed and the workers as slaves) At the core of the left is a terribly unhappy, self absorbed person who was never able to attain success. Because of that, like a petulant child, they spite those who have attained the success that they themselves, were never able to attain. So they would rather dictate to you how you should live and watch the world burn rather than muster up the initiative to make of their lives, what they will through their own hard work and talent.

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Liberal comments about being social engineers is a small window into the greater liberal mindset. Namely, that it is their duty and right to create society as they see fit. They automatically assume they have the greater and higher moral ground and that their views and opinions on “morality, “rights”, and “government” are more virtuous and thus need to be implemented at almost any cost and against almost any opposition or argumentation. They use their positions of influence or power to achieve these ends. Whereas, typically those who believe in individual responsibility and consequences for one’s actions usually will tolerate others views and usually do not seek to impose those views in the same aggressive manner because they believe in the individual and freedom of the individual rather than the collective hive mentality of their opposition. Interestingly, the liberal proclaims tolerance and open mindedness when in fact it is their way or the highway when it comes to morality, government, or rights. As many liberals hold no real virtuous faith in a higher power it is all left up to them as to what constitutes right or wrong in their brand of justice, politics, and society which all just boils down to what they want and what their opinion is, and you know what they say about opinions?

Steve700