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May 28, 2018 14:29:38   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I say you need to take a good look at who & what kind of person you really are.

Just what is your excuse for being you?

Did you ever for a moment feel that those with the most power & influence.
May view you in the same way.

What is it that you have that makes you a better person than me?
I have stated many times I am a Political Liberal.
I have more than some & less that others.

I fail to see how some having so much more than others is good for most of us.

Perhaps if you looked closer at what is going on you would see.
That some seeking excessive gains is more of the problems you face/
Than some one seeking a fair value for their input.
I say you need to take a good look at who & wh... (show quote)


Many times, having nothing but finding the fortitude to rebuild and survive creates a strong individual. Faithemselves.lure to rebuild weeds out the weak. It's nature's way. Natural selection.

Give out handouts, spread the wealth, and no one gets to find that strength in themselves.

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May 28, 2018 14:34:02   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Just who are we going to fight with?
Who is going to lead us?

It will not be me.
Fot 3 reasons:

I am 81 years with a faiing body.
I am for peace first & formost.
A change in how things are done on a International level has many positive outcomes.
(Seeing how the over all power stuctsure will be the same. It is a mute issue)

Why get your undies all tied in knots over it.


The NWO affecrtionados fail to understand how adding a whole level of government to the world does not decrease the problems we have, but rather increases it tenfold. The UN is ineffective in general because it has no power to enforce its will on the members, only toothless edicts various nations use to their benefit. For the US we would have city/county, state, national, and world government to contend with. It is not easy to pass a law at the city/county level, and the difficulties and oppositions grow as you rise up each level.

Enforcement becomes a super task, especially when one law most of the time doesn't fit all situations around the world. Plus the time to fix a problem would double or triple if it ever gets a fix. So instead of having a few nations in conflict, we would have many conflicts for the world government to solve, with a net loss in just about every category you can think of. Rebel groups of all sorts would emerge to bring down the world order, or at least to defy it.

If you look into the 65 or so Islamic nations and the main sects---Sunni and Shiite-- they have been fighting each other for centuries, and they would look upon a world government as the biggest enemy they could ever have, unless they ran it, and it might just unite them long enough to defeat the NWO, a little bit at a time. It would be a running conflict forever.

If you think "share and share alike" would be the order of the day, you would be going against a whole tier of nations not willing to give up their wealth by force to have it given to the poorer nations, flattening out the misery across the board.

Issue after issue that we as a nation face would likewise be faced many fold by the NWO, making the NWO play whack-a-mole forever.

Today, such a NWO is at the least impractical, and at the most it would be immoral.

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May 28, 2018 14:55:00   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
cold iron wrote:
I STAND BY MY LAST POST.


I have known that you have a very closed mind & that it is next to impossible to seek reason with you.
Well we are at a point in time when either we take the lead in bring about the changes need of just shut up & go sit in a corner.
You get the corner you pick.

You will be safe from me but not very safe with what is going to take place.
There be no safe places any where from that.

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May 28, 2018 15:08:31   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
BigMike wrote:
Whatever, Floyd. The world you envision CANNOT come about without bloody suppression of all dissent because that's how human governance rolls.

Period. So I guess we'll be fighting.


That is just it It can't & won't come from an armed conflict. That has been done over & over & each time it is said to be the last time.
Well the last time has had to have happen before it will come True.

The next time will always be the last time. & on & on.

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May 28, 2018 15:18:18   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Many times, having nothing but finding the fortitude to rebuild and survive creates a strong individual. Faithemselves.lure to rebuild weeds out the weak. It's nature's way. Natural selection.

Give out handouts, spread the wealth, and no one gets to find that strength in themselves.


Try this on for size:
"To the victor belong the spoils"
That has always been what wars have been about.

The masses are face in times of War or Peace are always faced with finding fortitude & surviving.

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May 28, 2018 16:24:02   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Manning345 wrote:
The NWO affecrtionados fail to understand how adding a whole level of government to the world does not decrease the problems we have, but rather increases it tenfold. The UN is ineffective in general because it has no power to enforce its will on the members, only toothless edicts various nations use to their benefit. For the US we would have city/county, state, national, and world government to contend with. It is not easy to pass a law at the city/county level, and the difficulties and oppositions grow as you rise up each level.

Enforcement becomes a super task, especially when one law most of the time doesn't fit all situations around the world. Plus the time to fix a problem would double or triple if it ever gets a fix. So instead of having a few nations in conflict, we would have many conflicts for the world government to solve, with a net loss in just about every category you can think of. Rebel groups of all sorts would emerge to bring down the world order, or at least to defy it.

If you look into the 65 or so Islamic nations and the main sects---Sunni and Shiite-- they have been fighting each other for centuries, and they would look upon a world government as the biggest enemy they could ever have, unless they ran it, and it might just unite them long enough to defeat the NWO, a little bit at a time. It would be a running conflict forever.

If you think "share and share alike" would be the order of the day, you would be going against a whole tier of nations not willing to give up their wealth by force to have it given to the poorer nations, flattening out the misery across the board.

Issue after issue that we as a nation face would likewise be faced many fold by the NWO, making the NWO play whack-a-mole forever.

Today, such a NWO is at the least impractical, and at the most it would be immoral.
The NWO affecrtionados fail to understand how addi... (show quote)



Where you get this adding on.
It is already there.
It is becoming more complete every day. those that want it will push to get the people to adopt it in fear or just go along with it.
It is our choice:
Do we give in to fear or others that would harm us ^ go to war.
Or do we juist agree.
We have no real choice.

They will play with our emotions until we agree or just keep making inroads on the path the World is on.
They wish to hold the treat of war over us to make it seem we need what they want.

They all ready have what they want they want us to agree that we need them.
It has gone past the time that we need them

It is them that need us they want us to agree with what they want.
I say that puts us in a good postion to bargin with them.

Individuly or collectively.
Just takwe note of who is aposed to the average person being orgaized.

I say in the long run we need to present ourr self as individuals.

The greatest fear in the World is with those with the most losing control over the masses.
The worst way for that to work for them is to treat us all as individuals.

That won't set well with many be cause would elevate the masses to their level.

While just being a face less member of the masses can be looked at as subhumans.
Those that are there to be exploited.

Individuals deserve dignity & trust & you can't exploite individuals.

Just stop & figure out just where you really stand in the world around you.

I say being part of the masses in the eyes of the few includes far more than most people care to look at.
I say there are many in that group drinking the kool-aid.

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May 28, 2018 23:44:31   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Where you get this adding on.
It is already there.
It is becoming more complete every day. those that want it will push to get the people to adopt it in fear or just go along with it.
It is our choice:
Do we give in to fear or others that would harm us ^ go to war.
Or do we juist agree.
We have no real choice.

They will play with our emotions until we agree or just keep making inroads on the path the World is on.
They wish to hold the treat of war over us to make it seem we need what they want.

They all ready have what they want they want us to agree that we need them.
It has gone past the time that we need them

It is them that need us they want us to agree with what they want.
I say that puts us in a good postion to bargin with them.

Individuly or collectively.
Just takwe note of who is aposed to the average person being orgaized.

I say in the long run we need to present ourr self as individuals.

The greatest fear in the World is with those with the most losing control over the masses.
The worst way for that to work for them is to treat us all as individuals.

That won't set well with many be cause would elevate the masses to their level.

While just being a face less member of the masses can be looked at as subhumans.
Those that are there to be exploited.

Individuals deserve dignity & trust & you can't exploite individuals.

Just stop & figure out just where you really stand in the world around you.

I say being part of the masses in the eyes of the few includes far more than most people care to look at.
I say there are many in that group drinking the kool-aid.
Where you get this adding on. br It is already the... (show quote)


That tirade is mostly incoherent, Floyd. I repeat my thesis: NWO is not going to happen because far, far too many nations are crippled. torn, devastated, religiously bound, amoral, ignorant and poor. Far too many other nations have their own ideas about where they want to go, and it isn't to bow to a super government.

The US won't in my lifetime sign up to losing our sovereignty, and neither will the UK, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Norway or Denmark. The EU nations will not lose their sovereignty. In fact, the EU is barely holding together, and is greatly resented by most of the Mediterranean nations.

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May 29, 2018 01:41:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
A One World Order would bring a better order to what is going on in the World today.

The control of the World would still be in the hands of those that have the true power & control over most things.
I look at as putting things in Order.
Making what we face any way if a better way & bring wayward Nations in line with what is better for every one.
In the ranking of good or bad the USA has one of the better track records.
It is including that which is best about our system becomes the heart of what is to be the new order.

It is going to be no matter how we feel & act any way.

It is my hope that in bring this all into consideration could be more on individual rights than National Rights.
I say we need to tell the World that we want to see the rights of individuals be strengthened.
A One World Order would bring a better order to wh... (show quote)
What exactly is this man made NWO supposed to look like IF it ever comes to pass? If it is supposed to be a One World Government, it hasn't a chance in hell of creating a world of peace and prosperity. It can be nothing other than a totalitarian entity that millions will oppose by whatever means possible. The belief that a tyrannical oligarchy can rule this world without maximum resistance to it is idiotic. There is a power in this universe infinitely greater than a collection of megalomaniacal superegos.

But of that day and hour knoweth no man . . .

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May 29, 2018 07:31:37   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What exactly is this man made NWO supposed to look like IF it ever comes to pass? If it is supposed to be a One World Government, it hasn't a chance in hell of creating a world of peace and prosperity. It can be nothing other than a totalitarian entity that millions will oppose by whatever means possible. The belief that a tyrannical oligarchy can rule this world without maximum resistance to it is idiotic. There is a power in this universe infinitely greater than a collection of megalomaniacal superegos.

But of that day and hour knoweth no man . . .
What exactly is this man made NWO supposed to look... (show quote)


You are right about self serving pigs being unsuccessful;
BUT these parasites will continue to set themselves up for advantages. Using governments and politicians is a tool of theirs.

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May 29, 2018 09:26:31   #
Kazudy
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
There are many things wrong with America.

There is much that is good about America.

I have commended on both sides of that issue..

Not always both sides at the same time.

The negative side is more about how some issues are brought about by certain factions of the populous (A mind set)

On the One World Order issue we are under their control now.
The big gain would for the average people because the average leader in any Nation would have to answer to a higher authority.
If you were to look closely much of the real power would stay in the same hands.
It is shear short sightedness to make a big issue when for the most part things will stay the same for most people.

Multinational Corporations are controlled by the people that could use a One World Order.
Running the economy with one basic on set of rules would make for a more stable economy.

So instead of having 190 or more governments Logical groups could be merged in to more logical units

It is the leaders of the various Nations that wish to maintain their power.
To have the people in their Nation to exploit for them & their paying friends.
There are many things wrong with America. br br T... (show quote)


Floyd,"on the One World Order issue we are under their control now" really!,who are they, where is their headquarters?"the big gain for the average people because the average leader in any Nation would have to answer to a higher authority." What if the leader of the average Nation is right and the higher authority is wrong? What then? That's why I asked you, WHO do you prefer to be the leader, a Trump style or a Hillary style person? How about answering my question this time.

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May 29, 2018 11:22:56   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Kazudy wrote:
Floyd,"on the One World Order issue we are under their control now" really!,who are they, where is their headquarters?"the big gain for the average people because the average leader in any Nation would have to answer to a higher authority." What if the leader of the average Nation is right and the higher authority is wrong? What then? That's why I asked you, WHO do you prefer to be the leader, a Trump style or a Hillary style person? How about answering my question this time.
Floyd,"on the One World Order issue we are un... (show quote)


I have stated many times on this site that I have no use for either of them in any leadership role in this Nation.

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May 29, 2018 11:30:23   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I have stated many times on this site that I have no use for either of them in any leadership role in this Nation.


You are old, senile and blind.!!

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May 29, 2018 12:11:48   #
Kazudy
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I have stated many times on this site that I have no use for either of them in any leadership role in this Nation.


Get out of here. What if you HAD to make a choice, don't dodge my question.

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May 29, 2018 12:24:44   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
cold iron wrote:
You are old, senile and blind.!!


Oh such kind & loving words.
Just the words to bring an undying devotion too.

There is a coldness with in you that chills many who look at what you write.

You have shown a true picture of the person you are.

I will keep my next thought to my self.
It is one you deserve to hear but I can only put it this way:

"May You R** in H***.

May our love fest continue with more loving words of indearment.

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May 29, 2018 12:27:51   #
bahmer
 
cold iron wrote:
You are old, senile and blind.!!


Amen and Amen

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