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May 18, 2018 01:23:47   #
Nickolai
 
old marine wrote:
Only swamp dwelling traitors would believe that.

God bless America and President Trump





Donald Trump is testing the institution of the Presidency unlike any of his 43 predecessors. We have never had a President so ill-informed about the nature of his office, so openly mendacious, self destructive, or so brazen in his abusive attack on the courts, the press, congress ( including members of his own party ) and even senior members of his own administration. James Madison wrote in one of the Federalist papers during the debates over ratification of the Constitution " Enlightened Statesmen will not always be at the helm " He was right but James Madison could not have imagined Donald Trump. Trump is a Frankenstein of past Presidents worst attribute. Jacksons rage, Fillmore's bigotry, Buchanan's incompetence and spite, Theodore Roosevelt's self aggrandizement, Richard Nixon's paranoia, insecurity, and indifference to law; Bill Clintons lack of self control and reflexive dishonesty.

Trump in short is leading a Sopranos touch on american insstitutions " I'm fucking King Midas in reverse " Tony Soprano once told his therapist " Every thing I touch turns to shit"

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May 18, 2018 08:47:40   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Nickolai wrote:
Donald Trump is testing the institution of the Presidency unlike any of his 43 predecessors. We have never had a President so ill-informed about the nature of his office, so openly mendacious, self destructive, or so brazen in his abusive attack on the courts, the press, congress ( including members of his own party ) and even senior members of his own administration. James Madison wrote in one of the Federalist papers during the debates over ratification of the Constitution " Enlightened Statesmen will not always be at the helm " He was right but James Madison could not have imagined Donald Trump. Trump is a Frankenstein of past Presidents worst attribute. Jacksons rage, Fillmore's bigotry, Buchanan's incompetence and spite, Theodore Roosevelt's self aggrandizement, Richard Nixon's paranoia, insecurity, and indifference to law; Bill Clintons lack of self control and reflexive dishonesty.

Trump in short is leading a Sopranos touch on american insstitutions " I'm fucking King Midas in reverse " Tony Soprano once told his therapist " Every thing I touch turns to shit"
Donald Trump is testing the institution of the Pre... (show quote)


Oh, and what did your hero BO do for 8 miserable years?
Beside lie, write EO's to bypass Congress.
Along with opening the floodgate of immigrants and send billions to our enemy's.
Time to stop the BS.

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May 18, 2018 10:28:49   #
moldyoldy
 
America 1 wrote:
Oh, and what did your hero BO do for 8 miserable years?
Beside lie, write EO's to bypass Congress.
Along with opening the floodgate of immigrants and send billions to our enemy's.
Time to stop the BS.


You should stop the BS.
Congress refused to bring any bills to the floor, so EO was used where possible.
The rush of immigrant children was the result of a Bush law that central americans could not be automatically stopped at the border.
Giving Iran its money back was a world court decision.

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May 23, 2018 22:13:26   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
king hall wrote:
Ladies & Gentlemen; in the unlikely event you were not aware, *alabuck* of Tennessee is a troll. The article he points to as his source of enlightenment is credited to AP business writers This is total bull shit!

Of Mr. Lemire's talents I know nothing and so I offer no comment. I do however know something of Mr. Condon's less than reputable literary works and how the industry of business writers, of which I am one, rate his talents. Typically level 3.

Bernard Condon, a believer in Keynesian Fiscal Policy, begins his article, "Ethics experts" (we later discover it is an individual, not plural, Professor at Harvard Law, Laurence Tribe, a socialist with tenure...go figure) the article continues; "possibly" putting him *President Trump*, in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution. On its face dear people, this is a bogus statement.

Congress insisted as Congress does with each newly elected president, that all personal and business assets be *set-off* in a blind trust for the sole purpose of negating any possibility of profit or other beneficial reward having been received or perceived especially where a foreign government or agent may be concerned. The article ends with what can only be construed to be the authors' disclaimer; (deniability) Trump's company 3 years earlier successfully negotiated with an Indonesian developer a "Trump-branded hotel" scenario.

And now for the benefit of alabuck. Understanding that all of any president's assets are secured in a legal entity beyond his reach or influence and in compliance of the emoluments clause of the Constitution and, the business agreement(s)/obligation(s) by & between then, Donald J. Trump [a private citizen] & Co., the developer and the developer's financier having been established well in advance of Mr. Trump announcing his candidacy, please explain how you justify your claims of, *prostitution* *exposing the US to harm* and *potential espionage*. Or, perhaps, you are nothing more than a jealous troll advancing the slime strewn by a pair of socialist pigs.

The First Amendment to the Constitution states in part; Congress shall make no law...or abridging the freedom of speech. Since 1791 our First Amendment has been amended to prohibit any speech that would cause public panic, no shouting fire in a crowded theatre. Today I would not be against further amending the First to include discord, hate, fear, slander and fake news. Perhaps then you wouldn't be so quick to follow the unchecked attention-getting opinions of others. Perhaps, you could just get over having lost the election. And 20 & 24.
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king hall,

Please enlighten me as to which article I referenced, other than the one I mentioned in my initial post; and also of which you claim I plagerized. Sorry to disappoint you. But, I didn’t plagiarize anyone’s article. I noted where my initial source was from (WaPo) and the rest of the OP was written, totally, on my own. Also, give me the date the article you claim I plagerized was written. I’d like to compare what I wrote to their article.

As to the other claims you place against me:

being a troll: of that, there are more than enough people on here that know you’re lying about that call. There are several folks on here, both, liberals and conservatives, with whom I have personally communicated, and who can vouch as to your lying about me in that regard.

as to my plagiarizing the work of others: I’ve never heard of the 2 people whose article you claim I plagiarized, Mr. Lemire and Mr. Condon, much less any articles they’ve written. If there are any similarities, it is totally by happenstance. Again, I would like to read the article you say I plagiarized. Why don’t you send us, all, a link to it so we can all compare it with my OP? FYI, having written similar thoughts about things does NOT constitute plagiarizing.

In this vein, why do you trash one of the writers of the article you, apparently, believe I plagiarized? It isn’t enough to falsely accuse me of plagiarizing, you feel the need to personally attack someone else, just because you disagree with their economics. It’s as if you’re trying to deflect away from the subject at hand by interjecting some more bull shit.

In fact, I “Googled” “Lemire and Condon article” and came up with ZERO hits. Now, I have to wonder if you’re not the “troll,” simply trying to cause harm to my reputation. Just so you know, others have tried the same tactic on me and ended-up leaving this website. Would you like me to add you to that list? Simply referencing what seems to be a made-up article on your part doesn’t cut it if you’re going to accuse me of plagiarizing. You’d better show me the article I plagiarized.

You claim I don’t know what the Constitution says about a president divesting himself of control over his personal assets. Well, allow me to,educate you on a few things. According to a January 11, 2017, article in Forbes, Trumpet refused to divest himself of his holdings. Go to, “https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2017/01/11/donald-trump-will-hand-over-business/.”

In the article, Trumpet claims he’s going farther than he needs to. However, according to others, he’s not going far enough.
“‘Trump claims to have cancelled all pending business deals, according to the white paper, and the Trump Organization will not enter into new foreign licensing agreements, or any deals with foreign officials or the U.S. government, while Trump is in office. All new domestic projects are to be reviewed by the ethics advisor, and Trump pledges to donate to the U.S. Treasury any profits from foreign governments patronizing his “hotels and similar businesses.”

“President-Elect Trump will have no role in deciding whether The Trump Organization engages in any new deal, and he will be completely sequestered from any information regarding the Organization’s decisions,” the white paper reads. “In other words, he will learn about them only through the media, as the American People would.”

While Trump said his plan goes beyond what he is required to do, the move disappointed some ethics experts, who have been calling on Trump to sell his assets and put the proceeds into a blind trust. Trump will apparently, through the trust, retain ownership of the Trump Organization companies and will benefit financially from their dealings.

“Stepping back from running his business is meaningless from a conflict of interest perspective,” said U.S. Office of Government Ethics director Walter Schaub Jr. in remarks at the Brookings Institution on Wednesday, describing Trump’s plan as “wholly inadequate.”

“He has all of the conflicts of interest that he had before,” Richard Painter, who served as chief ethics lawyer in the George W. Bush administration, told Forbes. “We don’t know who his business partners are, we don’t know who he owes.’”

On April 3,2017, WaPo published an article entitled, “Trump can quietly draw money from trust whenever he wants, new documents show.” Go,to, “https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-can-quietly-draw-money-from-trust-whenever-he-wants-new-documents-show/2017/04/03/7f4c0002-187c-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d6924fdb0f83.”

In part it says, “Newly released records show the trust agreement that Donald Trump used to put his adult sons in charge of his company allows him to draw money from it upon his request, illustrating the thin divide between the president and his private fortune.

“The filing, first reported by ProPublica and found on Page 161 of 166 of a bundle of documents released last week by the General Services Administration, says the trust that owns hundreds of Trump businesses “shall distribute net income or principal to Donald J. Trump at his request,” or whenever his son and a longtime employee “deem appropriate.”

“Trump and his attorneys have pointed to the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust as a response to widespread worries from ethics lawyers, who have said Trump’s refusal to divest ownership of his company creates the potential that he can derive personal profit from his public office.

“The filing — signed Feb. 10 by the trust’s managers, Donald Trump Jr. and Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg — reveals more evidence that the trust offers little barrier against Trump making money from the hotels, golf courses, branding deals and other business interests that he has widely promoted during his presidency.

“Trump has visited his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, his luxury hotel in Washington and other Trump-brand properties for nine weekends in a row.

“He’s still the beneficiary of all these assets. He is still entitled to the income and the profits of the trust if he wants them,” said Beth Shapiro Kaufman, the president of law firm Caplin & Drysdale, who reviewed the trust document. “Has he put these things out of his control and out of his personal benefit? The answer is no.”

“The filing summarizes Trump’s trust agreement, which has not been made public, and it is does not make clear whether the “at his request” provision is a change to the trust or simply an additional detail of the broader trust.

“Past presidents have traditionally sold their financial interests or sequestered them in “blind trusts,” overseen by independent monitors with complete control. Trump’s trust is not blind, because he knows how his assets are performing, has close relationships with both trustees, can make money off the trust’s financial interests and can revoke the trust at any time.”

So, tell me, how does Trumpet refusing toremove himself from actual control of his business dealings, but, instead, have his sons be “in control” work in the “real world? ” You know, the one where the rest of us live, who aren’t rich and who don’t have the power of a currupted, GOPTP-controlled Congress to protect us from what are known to be illegal and unethical activities? Those same activities that the Mueller probe will bring to light, should the GOPTP-controlled Congress allow it to be released.

You may want others to think I plagiarized some article, but, without seeing the article in question and reading it for comparison, myself, I’ll call you the troll and a bald-faced liar, to boot. Also, since you don’t know what you’re talking about with Trumpet and his business dealings, kindly refrain from further posts on my OPs.

Your 5 minutes of fame are up!

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Jul 1, 2018 19:12:09   #
JRumeryjr
 
alabuck wrote:
Today, the Washington Post reported that Trump’s sudden demand that Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross reverse course on punishing Chinese telecom giant ZTE surprised U.S. officials and came “without a formal policy process”:

The rapidly changing U.S. position highlights the stakes — and the confusion — ahead of crucial negotiations Tuesday between Trump’s senior economic team and a Chinese delegation led by Vice Premier Liu He. … White House officials spent much of the next 24 hours attempting to walk back his statement, saying ZTE’s fate would ultimately be left up to a review by Ross. … [Then] Trump tweeted again, contradicting Ross’s statement that the issues would be kept apart.

Meanwhile, good-government watchdogs groups are pointing out that this decision came just as the Chinese agreed to sink huge sums into an Indonesian project that will financially benefit …
Drum-roll, please ....

Trumpet!

Look for a Trump hotel to be built in Indonesia sometime in the next 5 years, if not sooner.

Isn’t it nice to see how a US president can prostitute himself while putting the US in harms way of potential espionage by the Chinese and their electronic devices?
Today, the Washington Post reported that Trump’s s... (show quote)


Would you expect anything more from Donnie?

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Jul 2, 2018 06:25:48   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
JRumeryjr wrote:
Would you expect anything more from Donnie?


You people just can't seem to under stand any thing. President Trump has no control over the Trump businesses they are controlled by his children.

The deal you are using to discredit the President was set in motion way before he ever considered running for president. There is NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

Better luck on your twisted misleading accusations next time.

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Jul 2, 2018 17:43:15   #
JRumeryjr
 
You are blind if you believe that!
old marine wrote:
You people just can't seem to under stand any thing. President Trump has no control over the Trump businesses they are controlled by his children.

The deal you are using to discredit the President was set in motion way before he ever considered running for president. There is NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

Better luck on your twisted misleading accusations next time.

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Jul 3, 2018 05:15:51   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
JRumeryjr wrote:
You are blind if you believe that!


Then you know nothing about business.

President Trump may legally own them but he does not run the day by day business his general manager(s) do.

You apparently are referring to the Trump tower hotel deal. That was started a couple of years before President Trump even considered running for president. His general managers finalized the deal not the President.

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Jul 3, 2018 06:59:32   #
moldyoldy
 
old marine wrote:
Then you know nothing about business.

President Trump may legally own them but he does not run the day by day business his general manager(s) do.

You apparently are referring to the Trump tower hotel deal. That was started a couple of years before President Trump even considered running for president. His general managers finalized the deal not the President.


A trumpster, hook line and sinker.

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Jul 3, 2018 07:57:00   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
moldyoldy wrote:
A trumpster, hook line and sinker.


No moldyooldy, just a plain old marine true patriot. Like Grandpaw taught me don't believe every thing you hear and only about half of what you see.

I support the President as long as he follows the constitution our forefathers founded this great nation on. If he deviates from that I no longer will support him.

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Jul 3, 2018 08:07:41   #
moldyoldy
 
old marine wrote:
No moldyooldy, just a plain old marine true patriot. Like Grandpaw taught me don't believe every thing you hear and only about half of what you see.

I support the President as long as he follows the constitution our forefathers founded this great nation on. If he deviates from that I no longer will support him.


he has never read the constitution, or any other thing of substance.

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Jul 3, 2018 11:35:42   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
moldyoldy wrote:
he has never read the constitution, or any other thing of substance.


I kind of believe he has, and laws still on the books but seldom used. I don't like a lot of his ways but he is a master at chess and a shroud business man.

So far he has followed the constitution our forefathers founded this great nation with and the laws still on the books.

I uderstand his tactics since I users them in Vietnam to mislead and confused the enemy of what we were doing.

When he stops following the Constitution and the laws I stop supporting him. Just like I did Obama.

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Jul 3, 2018 21:23:55   #
JRumeryjr
 
Are you seriously thinking that Donnie isn't getting profits?
old marine wrote:
Then you know nothing about business.

President Trump may legally own them but he does not run the day by day business his general manager(s) do.

You apparently are referring to the Trump tower hotel deal. That was started a couple of years before President Trump even considered running for president. His general managers finalized the deal not the President.

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Jul 4, 2018 07:08:16   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
JRumeryjr wrote:
Are you seriously thinking that Donnie isn't getting profits?


Of course his properties are or he wouldn't be a billionaire investor today. Even his beautiful wife is a multi millionaire in her own right.

From his position as President he refused the $400,000.00 annual salary. When told he couldn't do that he donated his salery to charity.

The previous administration left office as multiple millionaires and audits show TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS missing and unaccounted for. Over a BILLION DOLLARS from Hillary Clinton's state department alone.

Have a nice fourth of July. 😆😆😆😎

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Jul 4, 2018 07:45:36   #
moldyoldy
 
old marine wrote:
I kind of believe he has, and laws still on the books but seldom used. I don't like a lot of his ways but he is a master at chess and a shroud business man.

So far he has followed the constitution our forefathers founded this great nation with and the laws still on the books.

I uderstand his tactics since I users them in Vietnam to mislead and confused the enemy of what we were doing.

When he stops following the Constitution and the laws I stop supporting him. Just like I did Obama.
I kind of believe he has, and laws still on the bo... (show quote)


He hates the constitution.

In an interview with Fox News to mark the 100-day mark, he declared himself “disappointed” with congressional Republicans, despite his many “great relationships” with them.
He blamed the constitutional checks and balances built in to US governance. “It’s a very rough system,” he said. “It’s an archaic system … It’s really a bad thing for the country.”
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/29/trump-blames-constitution-for-first-100-days-chaos-presidency

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