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Apr 24, 2018 20:35:55   #
rumitoid
 
byronglimish wrote:
Well, on your premise of factual evidence, the whole DNC should be indicted for Hillary murdering so many of her associates over the years..right?


What? Care to expand...with some facts?

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Apr 24, 2018 20:37:08   #
rumitoid
 
byronglimish wrote:
Obama had major interactions with Islamic terrorists...but the news media whores were not allowed to touch it..'with honest observation'..
Obamanation's biggest and most heinous interaction is with imposter Americans..who push the progressive doom of our sovereignty...the Progs unknowingly self incriminate, by still supporting the Kenyans change..


You guys make these totally outrageous statements with no factual support.

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Apr 24, 2018 20:38:24   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
rumitoid wrote:
Agreed. Far too many Russia-lovers on the Right.


There wasn't one conservative who showed their love for dealing Uranium to the Russians..that was all progressivism..at it's very best..

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Apr 24, 2018 20:41:45   #
rumitoid
 
waltmoreno wrote:
The jury instruction that a judge reads to a jury right before they retire to begin deliberations in a criminal case reads, "If the circumstantial evidence is susceptible to two reasonable interpretations, one of which points to guilt and one of which points to innocence, it is your duty to adopt that which points to innocence and reject that which points to guilt." At least this is California's legal instruction regarding circumstantial evidence.
You post really stretches in trying to suggest that Trump is somehow implicated by the thin thread of circumstantial evidence. Open minded people would all come to the same conclusion - Trump is the victim of Mueller's witchhunt and it should end now.
The jury instruction that a judge reads to a jury ... (show quote)


If my post "stretches in trying to suggest that Trump is somehow implicated by the thin thread of circumstantial evidence" (and is not thin) bring counter-arguments against casting any doubt of that circumstantial evidence so that the jury can find not guilty. Right now you have everything pointing to his guilt. Mount a defense.

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Apr 24, 2018 20:42:22   #
rumitoid
 
donald41 wrote:
You are grasping at straws.


Prove it!

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Apr 24, 2018 20:45:09   #
JRumeryjr
 
rumitoid wrote:
If my post "stretches in trying to suggest that Trump is somehow implicated by the thin thread of circumstantial evidence" (and is not thin) bring counter-arguments against casting any doubt of that circumstantial evidence so that the jury can find not guilty. Right now you have everything pointing to his guilt. Mount a defense.


Donnie will not be 'impeached' by a jury, he'll be 'impeached' by a Congress that's biased!

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Apr 24, 2018 21:08:02   #
waltmoreno
 
rumitoid wrote:
If my post "stretches in trying to suggest that Trump is somehow implicated by the thin thread of circumstantial evidence" (and is not thin) bring counter-arguments against casting any doubt of that circumstantial evidence so that the jury can find not guilty. Right now you have everything pointing to his guilt. Mount a defense.


Let's see, for starters you're talking # 1 about Trump being in Russia overnight in 2013. What the hell can this possibly have to do with Russian collusion of the 2016 election??? It was years before he even declared himself to be a candidate for POTUS.

I don't even want to get into your other nonsense.

Under the circumstantial evidence rule any fair minded juror would find that this so-called circumstantial evidence for guilt is not even reasonable and hence throw it out under the jury instruction which requires no less.

There's absolutely no reasoning with ideological libs. It's all about ideology and has nothing to do with reason. So I won't waste my time anymore.

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Apr 24, 2018 21:21:38   #
rumitoid
 
byronglimish wrote:
There wasn't one conservative who showed their love for dealing Uranium to the Russians..that was all progressivism..at it's very best..


You do not know the story about the uranium sale; you know the nonsensical and easily disprovable spin by the alt-Right on that deal. If you dare, google it. Don't just read the totally debunked version on Infowars or Fox News, read the other side as well. Zero evidence of any wrong doing by Hillary or anyone or some progressive. 1. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/02/the-justice-department-has-apparently-debunked-the-gops-phony-uranium-one-scandal/

2. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a14477730/trump-uranium-one-republicans-russia/

3. Fox News's Shepard Smith debunks his network's favorite scandal
www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/...

4. https://www.thirdway.org/memo/debunking-the-uranium-one-scandal

5. https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/uranium-one-scandal-fake-news-clinton-story-revived-1083632195592

6. https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

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Apr 24, 2018 21:31:37   #
rumitoid
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Let's see, for starters you're talking # 1 about Trump being in Russia overnight in 2013. What the hell can this possibly have to do with Russian collusion of the 2016 election??? It was years before he even declared himself to be a candidate for POTUS.

I don't even want to get into your other nonsense.

Under the circumstantial evidence rule any fair minded juror would find that this so-called circumstantial evidence for guilt is not even reasonable and hence throw it out under the jury instruction which requires no less.

There's absolutely no reasoning with ideological libs. It's all about ideology and has nothing to do with reason. So I won't waste my time anymore.
Let's see, for starters you're talking # 1 about T... (show quote)


#1. The Steele Dossier has Trump cavorting with prostitutes on his "overnight" stay in Moscow. Trump said he did not stay overnight in Moscow. His head of security and flight records prove that he is lying. Why would he lie? Why does anyone lie? Usually, the decent lie to protect another from harm or hurt: "Yes, honey, you look great in that dress." The only one to benefit from what should be an unneeded lie in this Moscow trip is Trump.

"What the hell can this possibly have to do with Russian collusion of the 2016 election???" That goes back to the question of why Trump lied about being in Moscow overnight. Why would he lie? What was he trying to hide? Do innocent people lie about their travel or anything? Trump lied: why?

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Apr 24, 2018 21:43:18   #
JRumeryjr
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Let's see, for starters you're talking # 1 about Trump being in Russia overnight in 2013. What the hell can this possibly have to do with Russian collusion of the 2016 election??? It was years before he even declared himself to be a candidate for POTUS.

I don't even want to get into your other nonsense.

Under the circumstantial evidence rule any fair minded juror would find that this so-called circumstantial evidence for guilt is not even reasonable and hence throw it out under the jury instruction which requires no less.

There's absolutely no reasoning with ideological libs. It's all about ideology and has nothing to do with reason. So I won't waste my time anymore.
Let's see, for starters you're talking # 1 about T... (show quote)


Except finding him immoral!

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Apr 24, 2018 22:03:38   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Again, not that it matters that much, but I have never watched his show. The facts stand on their own.


Then you're repeating thevsame jargon that he is.

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Apr 24, 2018 22:27:33   #
Squiddiddler Loc: Phoenix
 
Verify it with: duckduck.com
rumitoid wrote:
Stop being a patsy for ideology and start being a patriot for our country. Everything I stated in the original thread can be verified on google by numerous sources. Attested to in videos and interviews by the president. It is only a conspiracy theory if you are clueless of the facts.

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Apr 24, 2018 22:28:06   #
Squiddiddler Loc: Phoenix
 
duckduckgo.com

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Apr 24, 2018 23:00:08   #
waltmoreno
 
rumitoid wrote:
#1. The Steele Dossier has Trump cavorting with prostitutes on his "overnight" stay in Moscow. Trump said he did not stay overnight in Moscow. His head of security and flight records prove that he is lying. Why would he lie? Why does anyone lie? Usually, the decent lie to protect another from harm or hurt: "Yes, honey, you look great in that dress." The only one to benefit from what should be an unneeded lie in this Moscow trip is Trump.

"What the hell can this possibly have to do with Russian collusion of the 2016 election???" That goes back to the question of why Trump lied about being in Moscow overnight. Why would he lie? What was he trying to hide? Do innocent people lie about their travel or anything? Trump lied: why?
#1. The Steele Dossier has Trump cavorting with pr... (show quote)


Wonderful! You're quoting from the Steele dossier as proof of your circumstantial evidence. Apparently you haven't gotten the memo about it being 100% fake, bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary. Your efforts in trying to bait me and others by advancing ridiculous arguments which any idiot would know aren't serious argument for circumstantial evidence. No court allow a jury instruction for circumstantial evidence based on your offer of proof.

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Apr 24, 2018 23:19:01   #
rumitoid
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Wonderful! You're quoting from the Steele dossier as proof of your circumstantial evidence. Apparently you haven't gotten the memo about it being 100% fake, bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary. Your efforts in trying to bait me and others by advancing ridiculous arguments which any idiot would know aren't serious argument for circumstantial evidence. No court allow a jury instruction for circumstantial evidence based on your offer of proof.


Apparently you have been hoodwinked by the alt-right that the Steele Dossier is 100% fake. It is not. Not even close. Yes, there are some unsubstantiated facts but most of it has been proven accurate. Look for yourself, if you care about truth.

1. https://www.yahoo.com/news/steele-dossier-donald-trump-denounced-175000290.html

2. https://www.yahoo.com/news/flight-records-appear-disprove-donald-124700488.html

3. https://www.vox.com/2018/1/5/16845704/steele-dossier-russia-trump

4. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-dossier_us_597a3754e4b02a4ebb740ba3

5. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/09/a_lot_of_the_steele_dossier_has_since_been_corroborated.html

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