Should people who were in prison be able to vote???
Apr 21, 2018 22:24:11 #
king hall wrote:
The answer is YES! And here's why; br the code of... (show quote)
Somebody who gets it. Amazing!
Apr 22, 2018 01:32:22 #
BigMike wrote:
Fine...it's good that you hold yourself to such a standard and also good that society is smarter than you.
People like me are valuable allies. The forces of good need us since the authority itself has been perverted.
People like me are valuable allies. The forces of good need us since the authority itself has been perverted.
You did your time, nuff said, and we can be 'allies' but that changes nothing for the victims of crime, whoever they might be. Like I said initially, when you can raise the dead and cover the full costs of the crimes, I would welcome you back to the rolls but it's either that or Hell freezing over.
Apr 22, 2018 01:38:25 #
JW wrote:
You did your time, nuff said, and we can be 'allies' but that changes nothing for the victims of crime, whoever they might be. Like I said initially, when you can raise the dead and cover the full costs of the crimes, I would welcome you back to the rolls but it's either that or Hell freezing over.
And when you can give life to those murdered by authority and who's lives have been destroyed you too can claim godhood. Flynn and Libby come to my mind.
No one knows better than I do what authority can be like when you fall into their power.
I know how easy it is to become a statistic...don't fool yourself.
Apr 22, 2018 01:47:46 #
BigMike wrote:
And when you can give life to those murdered by authority and who's lives have been destroyed you too can claim godhood. Flynn and Libby come to my mind.
No one knows better than I do what authority can be like when you fall into their power.
I know how easy it is to become a statistic...don't fool yourself.
No one knows better than I do what authority can be like when you fall into their power.
I know how easy it is to become a statistic...don't fool yourself.
What bothers me most, Mike, is the clear impression you leave of being the victim. In the back of my mind I keep hearing you say, 'OK, I committed the crime but your punishment isn't fair'. Was the crime fair?
I am very well aware of how easily one can be "disappeared" by authority once in their clutches.
I'm not looking for godhood... and murder isn't justified because you have a good reason... or because some cops do it too.
Apr 22, 2018 02:16:21 #
king hall
Loc: Tucson,AZ.
lindajoy wrote:
You may find this interesting in relationship to the first and fourteenth amendments ~~application of law by the courts interpretation..
The 1972 and 1974 cases by the Supreme Court gives the findings and why..
https://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000288
The 1972 and 1974 cases by the Supreme Court gives the findings and why..
https://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000288
Thanks LJ, you were correct, I did find your info interesting.
In years past I have written more than 300 appellate briefs for federal inmates (both male/female) and/or suits of civil liberty abuse. Whenever the filing was a stand alone civil request referencing 'suspended right to vote' I always rode on "Richardson v Ramirez" CA. [1974] Amici Curiae: plea the District Court recognize recent & current SCOTUS opinion[s] "Sentencing Enhancements"
Apr 22, 2018 02:39:19 #
JW wrote:
What bothers me most, Mike, is the clear impression you leave of being the victim. In the back of my mind I keep hearing you say, 'OK, I committed the crime but your punishment isn't fair'. Was the crime fair?
I am very well aware of how easily one can be "disappeared" by authority once in their clutches.
I'm not looking for godhood... and murder isn't justified because you have a good reason... or because some cops do it too.
I am very well aware of how easily one can be "disappeared" by authority once in their clutches.
I'm not looking for godhood... and murder isn't justified because you have a good reason... or because some cops do it too.
No sir! I was one who had advantages {mentally, at least) and fkd up anyway!
But in prison I became a certified adult tutor.
What I learned blew my mind. It was good that I went there and learned what I did. I have a piece of the puzzle you could never discover because you never had to travel my road.
If anyone has a reason to say fk the USA it could be me but I'm the opposite.
You may cast me aside but I'll never do the same...promise before God.
Apr 22, 2018 02:40:45 #
JW wrote:
What bothers me most, Mike, is the clear impression you leave of being the victim. In the back of my mind I keep hearing you say, 'OK, I committed the crime but your punishment isn't fair'. Was the crime fair?
I am very well aware of how easily one can be "disappeared" by authority once in their clutches.
I'm not looking for godhood... and murder isn't justified because you have a good reason... or because some cops do it too.
I am very well aware of how easily one can be "disappeared" by authority once in their clutches.
I'm not looking for godhood... and murder isn't justified because you have a good reason... or because some cops do it too.
Jesus said he who hates his brother is a murderer.
Apr 22, 2018 02:42:05 #
[quote=king hall]Thanks LJ, you were correct, I did find your info interesting.
In years past I have written more than 300 appellate briefs for federal inmates (both male/female) and/or suits of civil liberty abuse. Whenever the filing was a stand alone civil request referencing 'suspended right to vote' I always rode on "Richardson v Ramirez" CA. [1974] Amici Curiae: plea the District Court recognize recent & current SCOTUS opinion[s] "Sentencing Enhancements"[/quote]
If people had the slightest idea how many folks plead guilty to crimes they never committed they be blown away.
In years past I have written more than 300 appellate briefs for federal inmates (both male/female) and/or suits of civil liberty abuse. Whenever the filing was a stand alone civil request referencing 'suspended right to vote' I always rode on "Richardson v Ramirez" CA. [1974] Amici Curiae: plea the District Court recognize recent & current SCOTUS opinion[s] "Sentencing Enhancements"[/quote]
If people had the slightest idea how many folks plead guilty to crimes they never committed they be blown away.
Apr 22, 2018 19:16:21 #
woodguru wrote:
I would so love a test to determine political ignorance, let's see...
Obama was a Muslim, True or False
Hillary killed four people in Benghazi, True or False
Trickle down economics have been proved over and over, True or False
Obama was born in a) Kenya B) Hawaii C) California D) None of the above
You get the drift
Obama was a Muslim, True or False
Hillary killed four people in Benghazi, True or False
Trickle down economics have been proved over and over, True or False
Obama was born in a) Kenya B) Hawaii C) California D) None of the above
You get the drift
I think true on all four you get my drift.
Apr 22, 2018 21:00:15 #
vernon wrote:
I think true on all four you get my drift.
vernon: I think woodie is drifting back into his insanity again!
Apr 23, 2018 00:37:44 #
BigMike wrote:
No sir! I was one who had advantages {mentally, at least) and fkd up anyway!
But in prison I became a certified adult tutor.
What I learned blew my mind. It was good that I went there and learned what I did. I have a piece of the puzzle you could never discover because you never had to travel my road.
If anyone has a reason to say fk the USA it could be me but I'm the opposite.
You may cast me aside but I'll never do the same...promise before God.
But in prison I became a certified adult tutor.
What I learned blew my mind. It was good that I went there and learned what I did. I have a piece of the puzzle you could never discover because you never had to travel my road.
If anyone has a reason to say fk the USA it could be me but I'm the opposite.
You may cast me aside but I'll never do the same...promise before God.
I would die for a friend... and I have come close to doing that more than once. What I might think of you or anyone has to do with who they are in my presence. Their history is not as important as who they are with me.
I'm glad you have surmounted your mistakes and happy for the revelations you experienced. I wish you no ill but, once more, until full restitution to the victim(s) can be and is made, I support the maximum punishment possible relative to the crimes committed.
Apr 23, 2018 02:09:34 #
JW wrote:
I would die for a friend... and I have come close to doing that more than once. What I might think of you or anyone has to do with who they are in my presence. Their history is not as important as who they are with me.
I'm glad you have surmounted your mistakes and happy for the revelations you experienced. I wish you no ill but, once more, until full restitution to the victim(s) can be and is made, I support the maximum punishment possible relative to the crimes committed.
I'm glad you have surmounted your mistakes and happy for the revelations you experienced. I wish you no ill but, once more, until full restitution to the victim(s) can be and is made, I support the maximum punishment possible relative to the crimes committed.
I think restitution to victims is a great idea. Too bad the State grabs theirs first with little thought to victims.
Apr 23, 2018 13:09:05 #
BigMike wrote:
I think restitution to victims is a great idea. Too bad the State grabs theirs first with little thought to victims.
That is how it works.
Being on the take.
Apr 23, 2018 14:13:29 #
eagleye13 wrote:
That is how it works.
Being on the take.
Being on the take.
I did two college papers on the prison industrial complex in the US but CA in particular.
With my unique perspective you can bet I aced them both and taught the kids in my class (I was 43) some things about how the prison system operates. Real numbers don't lie...but the abstractions and variables can blow your mind.
I became a certified adult tutor in prison and what I learned reinforced something I'd already begun to understand.
Tactile learners, dyslexics, ADHD had little chance in CA public school systems. They were discarded as unteachable and sent to continuation schools with the criminal kids.
Criminals are a commodity to the State, you BET.
Apr 23, 2018 14:37:26 #
BigMike wrote:
I did two college papers on the prison industrial ... (show quote)
You bet they are!
Show me your friends and I will show you you're future!
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