lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Reduced electric bills being a signifcant plus some of the other issues that need continued tweeking would be;

Cost
The initial cost of purchasing a solar system is fairly high. Although the UK government has introduced some schemes for encouraging the adoption of renewable energy sources, for example, the Feed-in Tariff, you still have to cover the upfront costs. This includes paying for solar panels, inverter, batteries, wiring and for the installation. Nevertheless, solar technologies are constantly developing, so it is safe to assume that prices will go down in the future

2. Weather Dependent
Although solar energy can still be collected during cloudy and rainy days, the efficiency of the solar system drops. Solar panels are dependent on sunlight to effectively gather solar energy. Therefore, a few cloudy, rainy days can have a noticeable effect on the energy system. You should also take into account that solar energy cannot be collected during the night. On the other hand, if you also require your water heating solution to work at night or during wintertime, thermodynamic panels are an alternative to consider.

3. Solar Energy Storage Is Expensive
Solar energy has to be used right away, or it can be stored in large batteries. These batteries, used in off-the-grid solar systems, can be charged during the day so that the energy is used at night. This is a good solution for using solar energy all day long but it is also quite expensive. In most cases, it is smarter to just use solar energy during the day and take energy from the grid during the night (you can only do this if your system is connected to the grid). Luckily our energy demand is usually higher during the day so we can meet most of it with solar energy.

4. Uses a Lot of Space
The more electricity you want to produce, the more solar panels you will need because you want to collect as much sunlight as possible. Solar panels require a lot of space and some roofs are not big enough to fit the number of solar panels that you would like to have. An alternative is to install some of the panels in your yard but they need to have access to sunlight. Anyways, if you don’t have the space for all the panels that you wanted, you can just get a fewer and they will still be satisfying some of your energy needs.

5. Associated with Pollution
Although pollution related to solar energy systems is far less compared to other sources of energy, solar energy can be associated with pollution. Transportation and installation of solar systems have been associated with the emission of greenhouse gases. There are also some toxic materials and hazardous products used during the manufacturing process of solar photovoltaics, which can indirectly affect the environment. Nevertheless, solar energy pollutes far less than the other alternative energy sources...

When in Hawaii it was said given their frequent weather trends they have come to the conclusion the vast investment in solars while helpful could not be the sole dependency to homes or bysinesses.. They do use what they have as its needed....Geothermal is coming on board as yet another alternative to pick up the slack being all Islands it limits their ability in what they can consider.....

Morgan

Looks like no one bothers to read the link I sent, this is exactly what it's about, more in depth.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

Apples ChiCom Hippy phone factory in China more than likely
runs off Soilent Green.

Morgan

Not true, it can supply enough energy for many homes to the point of an overflow of energy where they receive get credit back from the utility company. As far as business it appears to be making great strides, apple just one example

Apple says it now has 25 operational renewable energy projects–with 15 more now in construction–in 11 countries. Just eight years ago, only 16% of its facilities were powered by renewable energy. By 2015 that number had increased to 93%, then to 96% in 2016.

It has also convinced 23 companies in its supply chain to sign a pledge to get to 100% renewable energy for the portion of their business relating to Apple products.

The overarching goal of Apple going 100% green is, of course, is to reduce harmful emissions from dirty fuels. The company says it’s reduced its greenhouse gas emissions (CO2e) by 58% since 2011, preventing 2.2 million metric tons of CO2e from entering the atmosphere.

When we read the tonnage here from one company it is hard to fathom the tonnage from industry in the US, China and all around the world. That is enough to reveal and substantiate the negative impact we humans have on the atmosphere and the environment.

I am hopeful other companies will follow Apples lead to be environmentally responsible.

Squiddiddler Loc: Phoenix

BULLSHIT

https://www.westernjournal.com/google-apple-claim-to-run-on-100-green-energy-but-theres-a-major-catch/








uote=Morgan]Very cool

Apple says it now has 25 operational renewable energy projects–with 15 more now in construction–in 11 countries. Just eight years ago, only 16% of its facilities were powered by renewable energy. By 2015 that number had increased to 93%, then to 96% in 2016.

In 2012, it hired the Bay Area-based solar contractor SunPower, which built the 20-megawatt farm right across the street from the data center. (To give you a sense of scale, 20 megawatts would be enough to power about 3,300 homes.) Apple ended up building three solar projects in North Carolina–two 20-megawatt solar farms and an 18-megawatt one–as well as a bio-gas fuel-cell farm capable of generating 10 megawatts of green power.

WOW...

Apple says that by using clean energy from renewable energy projects its suppliers avoided releasing more than 1.5 million metric tons of CO2e into the air in 2017. That’s the equivalent of taking more than 300,000 cars off the road, the company states.

In 2015, Apple started a program to move suppliers toward green energy. Last year, 14 such companies pledged to work toward running the parts of their operations that serve Apple on 100% renewable energy. Today, Apple announced that another nine of its suppliers have promised to reach this goal.

Read more...http://www.fastcompany.com/40554151/how-apple-got-to-100-renewable-energy-the-right-way

Way to go Apple, now lets hope they bring back their manufacturing. [/quote]

archie bunker Loc: Texas

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Funny you should metion this. Here in the Texas Panhandle, we have hundreds, if not thousands of wind turbines running. Hundreds within a stones throw of our coal fired power plant. All of the transmission lines for them run to the south,and east of here, and our power company (Excel Energy) is constantly pushing for rate increases here.
Wouldn't you think that since we have all of these unsightly, wildlife destroying things around here that our electric bills would go down?

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

Apple iOS is a hackers backdoor paradise.
The branded telecom iOS's are even worse.

Morgan

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This isn't the "BIG Catch" you make it out to be, nor the big BULLSHIT. So what if for now, they're paying Peter to pay Paul, by including REC's to balance the CO2 footprint, it all washes out to be a big step forward and in the right direction.

son of witless

Way to go Apple.

Morgan

Your analogy...should we ban cars? You guys never have anything positive to say.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Your hair looks nice.😆

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Check out the cost for home conversion and then business..

It varies depending on size, weather patterns, required need of electricity for your home etc because its not always sunny outside etc.. Staggering it is..
But it lasts for 20 years before you will need to upgrade....

son of witless

Did you expect anything different from my Dissent Tribe ? My Tribe questions everything. You cannot bully us. You must convince us, which so far your side does not wish to do. Your side commands us and demands blind obedience. You never question your liberal masters. My Tribe, we no do that.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Morgan's tribe wants more wampum for bad whiskey!

son of witless

You had better be very very careful.I was scolded for my tribalism. Morgan has told me in no uncertain terms that Morgan is unaffiliated. Yea I thought that was funny too. Who ever heard of a tribe called unaffiliated ?