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Apr 19, 2018 06:04:34   #
PeterS
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Haven't YOU been using it!!!!! Your answer just now would seem so.
....and, yes, I'm projecting DJT to win a 2nd term....

Projection is placing a fault of yours onto someone else.

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Apr 19, 2018 08:37:53   #
zillaorange
 
permafrost wrote:
???? Now you hate Lady Hillary because they ran a lousy campaign???


hate is wasted on this criminal !!!! Maybe muler should be paying attention to her activities, like the # of hitlery's associates who've committed "SUICIDE " !!!!!!

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Apr 19, 2018 08:38:48   #
zillaorange
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I love the pic you posted!!!!
Exactly why America is not a democracy.
Mental midgets can be manipulated.
Fools can be fooled.

http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2018/4/18/t1-359582-3000_1568718245846950118_n.jpg



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Apr 19, 2018 08:40:47   #
zillaorange
 
permafrost wrote:
No, he is fighting to find mental stability... he has lost it...


mornin' perma, I think a lot of his activities are just to keep dems & libs going in circles !

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Apr 19, 2018 08:42:20   #
Gatsby
 
First perma: Hillary is no lady! Second, I don't hate Hillary, I despise her, for the traitor to America that she is.

The Lousy way she ran her campaign into the ground, is exactly what she would have done to My Country!

permafrost wrote:
???? Now you hate Lady Hillary because they ran a lousy campaign???

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Apr 19, 2018 08:42:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
1) a constitutional republic is a form of democracy and 2) changing one fallacy to another doesn't change the fact that using statistical fallacies does nothing but entertain your peeps--unless you can explain why winning more counties is more important than winning more votes? Can you? Didn't think so...


Petey;
We have a Constitution. Deal with it.
If you want to change it, get a constitutional amendment passed.
Another solution, that I am sure you preferred, was to get supreme court justices, that would get loose with the interpretation.
You came close!!

The electoral college is in place to prevent concentrated pockets of who knows what, to determine the fate of the whole country. Quite ingenious if I do say myself.
We have 50 states; not 3 or 4 to decide who screws who.

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Apr 19, 2018 08:43:04   #
zillaorange
 
PeterS wrote:
The point of my answer was that Obama had the lowest growth rate of any modern president (1.89 per year over 8 years). If you are upset with what we get for our dollar please don't use my answer to make it--start a separate thread...


he doubled the national debt, all by himself, during his 8 yrs in office !

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Apr 19, 2018 08:47:22   #
zillaorange
 
PeterS wrote:
1) a constitutional republic is a form of democracy and 2) changing one fallacy to another doesn't change the fact that using statistical fallacies does nothing but entertain your peeps--unless you can explain why winning more counties is more important than winning more votes? Can you? Didn't think so...


Please provide the material you used to declare our REPUBLIC is a democracy ??? In any way, shape or form !!! I suggest you read the "FEDERALIST PAPERS" !!!

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Apr 19, 2018 08:51:06   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
At 79 years I have known several worthless presidents, first in line is Obama, Carter, and Ford. LBJ created entitlements that created large deficits that continue 60 years later, but Obama wasted 13 trillion dollars in less that 60 days. While the
entities that used this funds, have paid them back but BO spent them rather using them to reduce the debt. They simple disappeared into politician's pockets. Look at the jobs he created, 6 weeks of employment taking the census, minimum wage jobs that cost millions of dollars to create. Every thing he did was a loss. DJT is different, but he is a REAL ACTION MAN, He is bringing life back to America's economy, building strong bonds with our friends and carrying a big stick. Jobs are returning, he is proving a Rising Tide lifts all boats.

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Apr 19, 2018 09:19:22   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
zillaorange wrote:
hate is wasted on this criminal !!!! Maybe muler should be paying attention to her activities, like the # of hitlery's associates who've committed "SUICIDE " !!!!!!


" Maybe muler should be paying attention to her activities, like the # of hitlery's associates who've committed "SUICIDE " !!!!!"

Over 50 deaths surrounding the Clintons at last count.
That would be a career in itself.

Over 50 and counting:

Clintonistas:
If guns were removed from the Clintons and their associates; a lot of dead people would still be alive:
The Clinton Corpses
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/the-clinton-corpses?xg_source=activity
Clinton Corpse Collection
This is just the short list, The long list will blow your socks and jocks off.

I've investigated a lot of crimes over the last 32 years, including murders. Any criminal investigator with the slightest bit of experience and training could easily see (and most have seen) the many flaws, holes and gaps in the so-called Vince Foster "murder" investigation by, of all the fede...ral law enforcement agencies, the Park Police. But, when one does a little more checking into the past of Bill and Hillary Clinton, they will find a long path of former friends, associates and business partners of the Clinton's who have died young and under mysterious circumstances. The following is a partial list of those whose blood cries out for justice.

Kevin Ives and Don Henry: Died August 1987. Reportedly, they had stumbled upon the Arkansas Mena Drug Operation (many stories and articles have been written about Clinton's affiliation with the Mena Mafia) It was first reported that these two young boys died as a result of falling asleep on a railroad track. It was later revealed that Ives had received a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks and Henry had been stabbed to death. The following 7 deaths were all of people who reportedly had knowledge and information concerning the mysterious, unsolved murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry:
1.Keith Coney:died July 1988 from injuries sustained from a motorcycle accident. Some reports indicated that he was being chased by an unidentified vehicle.
2.Keith McKaskle: died Nov. 1988 from multiple stab wounds
3.Greg Collins: died Jan. 1989 from a gunshot wound to the head. No suspect was ever found.
4.Jeff Rhodes: died April 1989 from a gunshot wound to the head. His body was burned and thrown in a dumpster.
5.James Milam: died 1989. His death was ruled as being from natural causes, until his head was later recovered from a trash bin!
6.Richard Winters: died July 1990 from injuries sustained during a robbery attempt. He was a suspect in the death of Kevin Ives and Don Henry. Some reports claim the robbery was only a setup.
7.Jordan Kettleson: died June 1990. He died from gunshot wounds and was found sitting in his truck.
•Suzanne Coleman: died when Clinton served as Arkansas Attorney General. She was alleged to have been "romantically" involved with Clinton. Although she died from a gunshot to the back of her head, the death was ruled a suicide! She was pregnant at the time of her death.
•Alan Sandorf:died 1991. Sandorf was an employee of NSA (National Security Agency). He was reportedly providing info. to Danny Casolaro, who was an independent reporter investigating the INSLAW case (INSLAW involved Justice Dept. theft, cover-ups, missing records, fraud and gov. corruption of all sorts) Sandorf's body was found in the back seat of a car at the Washington National Airport.
•Dennis Eisman: shot to death in 1991. Eisman was an attorney, who was also working on the INSLAW case.
•Danny Casolaro: found dead in a Virginia motel room in 1992. His arms had been slashed multiple times. Casolaro was an independent investigative reporter who had extensive files and information on the INSLAW case against the Justice Dept. and other "high ranking" government officials. Even though his body was found, his files and documentations were said to have never been located!
•Victor Raiser II: died in 1992 from an unexplained airplane crash. He was co-chairman of the "Clinton for President" campaign. Montgomery Raiser, his son, also involved with the Clinton campaign was killed in the plane crash with his father and 5 other people.
•Ian Spiro: died in 1992. His wife and 3 children were found murdered in their home. They had been shot to death (execution style) Several days later Spiro's body was found in the Borego Desert. His autopsy revealed the cause of death as cyanide poisoning. He held files and evidence to produce before a grand jury in the INSLAW proceedings.
•Paul Tully: died 1992 from unknown causes. His body was found in a motel room in Little Rock Arkansas. He was supposedly one of Clinton's closest friends, and served as the National Democratic Committee Chairman.
•Jim Wilhite: died 1992 in a one person skiing accident. Wilhite had close ties to Clinton and was a former associate of Mack Mclarty (long time friend and counselor of Bill Clinton)
•Paula Gober: died 1992 from an unwitnessed one car accident. She traveled with Clinton and was his speech interpreter for the deaf for 4 years.
•Paul Wilcher: died 1993 from an "undetermined cause". He was a Washington attorney, who was investigating gov. corruption in the Mena Arkansas drug running organization and the BATF assault in the Waco ordeal. He had turned in a lengthy affidavit to Janet Reno only 3 weeks prior to his mysterious death! His body was found in a Washington apartment. His reports and documents have never been released.
•Robert Williams, Todd McKeehan, Conway LeBleau and Steve Willis: all died in 1993 from identical gunshot wounds to their left temples. They were the only BATF agents killed in Waco, Texas during the Branch Davidian raid. They also just happen to have been Clinton bodyguards!
•Scott Reynolds, William Barkley, Brian Hassley and Tim Sabel: all died in a "freak" helicopter crash in 1993, All 4 men had served as Clinton bodyguards. The helicopter crash site, near Quantico Virginia was barred from reporters and a video of the crash site, taken by a fire fighter, was seized by military officials.
•Gary Rhodes, William Robertson, William Desberger and Robert Kelly: all died in another helicopter crash in 1993. This one occurred in Germany and the cause was never determined. All 4 men were Clinton Bodyguards. They, along with 8 other men who were associated with Clinton's previous visit to the U.S.S. Roosevelt, died within a 4 month period!
•Vince Foster: died 1993 from a gunshot wound to the head. Long time "friend" of Hillary (Bill too) Clinton. He was the White House Deputy Counsel at the time of his murder....oh!. excuse me, suicide. Why do so many people who know the Clinton's want to kill themselves? I may add another page later to explain my many reasons for believing Foster's death to have been a murder and a sloppy cover up attempt. Many people, including some Republican Congressmen, have tried (as recently as July 1998) to get the Clinton Justice Dept. to re-open the investigation into Vincent Foster's death.
•Jon Parnell Walker: died 1993 from injuries received after "falling" from an apartment balcony at the top of the Lincoln Towers. This was a place in which Vince Foster was reported to use as a getaway! Walker was an investigator for the RTC (Resolution Trust Corporation) who was investigating the Whitewater affair and the Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan bankruptcy scandal. Walker was attempting to have the investigation moved from Arkansas to Washington at the time of his alleged slip off the top of the Lincoln Towers.
•Luther (Jerry) Parks: died from multiple gunshot wounds in 1993. His body was found by an intersection on I-10 outside Little Rock. He was the head of the Security Team at Clinton's National Campaign Headquarters in Arkansas. He had compiled a large file involving illicit activities (including sexual affairs) by Bill Clinton.
By the way,just prior to his death, his house was burglarized and all of his files and photos on Clinton and "friends" were stolen! With 9 bullets having been removed from his body, the suicide theory has not yet been applied to this one!

•Stanley Heard and Steven Dickson: died 1993 in an unexplained airplane crash near the Dulles airport. Dickson was counsel to Heard, who was the chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Committee. Heard had also known and treated Clinton's mother and other Clinton family members.
•Ed Willey: died from a gunshot wound in 1993. He was a Clinton fund raiser and the husband of Kathleen Willey, another lady who fell victim to a sexual attack by Sicko Willie. His death was ruled....what else? A suicide, of course. It has been reported that he died the same day Mrs. Willey was "groped" by Clinton in the ORAL office.
•Gandy Baugh: died 1994. Of course, it was another suicide. Baugh was an attorney for Dan Lasater (Clinton's long time comrade from Arkansas, who was later convicted on criminal charges, including drugs). Baugh's law partner, not to be out-done, decided to commit his suicide exactly a month later!
•Herschell Friday: died in 1994. He was a member of Clinton's Presidential Finance Committee. The airplane he was flying in committed suicide by blowing itself up in mid flight!
•Bill Shelton: died 1994. He was an Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Furguson (we'll get to her momentarily). Shelton did a "trick suicide". He shot himself in the back of the head while visiting Kathy's grave!
•Kathy Furguson: died 1994. You guessed it. Suicide, by a gunshot to the head. Kathy, a hospital worker was recently divorced from Danny Furguson, another Arkansas State Trooper. Danny was also Clinton's co-defendant in the "Paula Jones" sexual harassment lawsuit. Kathy was known to be a little "too open" about sharing information with folks about Clinton's 3rd rate romances. Danny Furguson spared himself from a possible "suicide" when he changed his mind and decided that he did not escort Paula Jones to Clinton's motel room after all!
•Stanley Huggins: died 1994 after a "short illness". He had been a member of a large Memphis law firm and the head investigator probing into the suspicious loan and banking practices of the Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan.
•Calvin Walraven: died 1994. He was a 24 yr. old, and one of the state's main witnesses against Jocelyn Elder's son, who was up on drug charges. His body was found in his Arkansas apartment with a gunshot to the head.
By the way, Jocelyn Elders was the "let's make marijuana legal and criminalize tobacco" Surgeon General, who was hand picked by Willie Boy! No need for her to commit suicide. She apparently came into the Surgeon General's position already brain-dead!

•Dr. Ronald Rogers:died 1994 from yet another bizarre plane crash. He was on the way to do an interview with a reporter for the "London Sunday Telegraph" about some of the scandalous and secret dealings of Bill Clinton.
•Ron Brown: died 1996. Brown was the Secretary of Commerce and the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee. He died along with 39 others in a plane crash, on the way to Croatia. The plane crash was originally reported to have been caused by bad weather. After independent sources revealed that there was no bad weather, the reports cited pilot error and navigational equipment failure as the cause.
Brown was very close to being indicted over financial fraud schemes etc., and had publicly announced that he was willing to make a deal with the prosecution. Many allegations have came out about Brown's missing, lost or stolen autopsy records containing x-rays that clearly showed a "bullet hole" in the back of Brown's head and bullet fragments inside his skull! If it's ever proven, I wonder if they'll also attribute that to pilot error?

•Barbara Wise:died 1996. Barbara was a 14 year employee with the Department of Commerce. She was an associate of Johnny Huang (financial and trade scandals, etc.) During the time rumors were circulating around Washington about Huang's possible involvement in illegal activities, the body of Barbara Wise was found in her Dept. of Commerce office. Her body was severely bruised and semi- nude. No official cause of death was ever released.
•Charles Meissner: died 1996. He was the Assistant Secretary of Commerce for International Economic Policy. He placed Johnny Huang on a Commerce Dept. Contract that allowed Huang to maintain a security clearance. Soon thereafter, Meissner was killed in the same plane crash along with Ron Brown.
•Admiral Jerry Boorda: died 1996. Admiral Boorda was the Chief of Naval Operations. He supposedly went home for lunch one day and, rather than have his scheduled interview with the Newsweek Magazine that afternoon, he decided to shoot himself twice in the chest.
•William Colby: died 1996. Former Director of Central Intelligence, William Colby was feared by many "insiders" because of the information Colby was allegedly writing about for his new book. He had already went public with information about illegal spying on American citizens and other CIA activities that embarrassed the agency. Colby was reported missing by neighbors. A massive search was conducted and the only thing recovered was Colby's canoe. He had left his house unlocked, his computer on and his lunch only partially eaten. Colby was known for his tidiness, but his house was said to have been in complete disarray. His wife stated that Colby never, never went out in his canoe without a life jacket on. But, several days later his body was discovered in the water in an area previously, thoroughly searched. He was not wearing a life-jacket. His book was never completed either.
•Mary Mahoney: died 1997. Mary was a former intern working in the White House for Bill Clinton. Rumors were said to have been circulating that a former intern was about to go public about being sexually harassed by Bill Clinton. Mahoney was working in a coffee shop in Georgetown, when gunmen entered. Mahoney's two associates were taken into a separate room and shot. Mary Mahoney's body contained five bullets. No money was taken. Murders never solved.
•Ron Miller: died 1997. Ron Miller was the man who tape recorded Gene and Nora Lum and turned the tapes over to the congressional oversight investigators. The Lums were arrested, convicted and sentenced to prison for campaign violations by fraudulently concealing their identity and the size of their political contributions. Ron Miller, a very healthy man was suddenly struck very ill and died within days. The medical examiner's office in Oklahoma refused to release blood test results. Many believe Miller's death was a result of Ricin poisoning.
•Sandy Hume: died 1998. Sandy had worked for Fox News for 3 weeks…. (Condensed)

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Apr 19, 2018 09:24:57   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
1) a constitutional republic is a form of democracy and 2) changing one fallacy to another doesn't change the fact that using statistical fallacies does nothing but entertain your peeps--unless you can explain why winning more counties is more important than winning more votes? Can you? Didn't think so...


A refresher for you, Peter;
Electoral College. A 39 second read (Well worth reading and passing along).


In their infinite wisdom, the United States' founders created the Electoral College to ensure the STATES were fairly represented. Why should one or two densely populated areas speak for the whole of the nation?

The following list of statistics has been making the rounds on the Internet. It should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense.

Do share this. It needs to be widely known and understood.

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57.


There are 62 counties in New York State.

Trump won 46 of them.

Clinton won 16.


Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes.

In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens)

Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)

Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.

The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.

Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!

But that 319 square miles are where the majority of our nation's problems foment.

Well worth the 39 seconds to read? Now please pass it on.

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Apr 19, 2018 09:55:23   #
1ProudAmerican
 
PeterS wrote:
Projection is placing a fault of yours onto someone else.


...and YOU have mastered that ability....

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Apr 19, 2018 09:57:23   #
bahmer
 
eagleye13 wrote:
A refresher for you, Peter;
Electoral College. A 39 second read (Well worth reading and passing along).


In their infinite wisdom, the United States' founders created the Electoral College to ensure the STATES were fairly represented. Why should one or two densely populated areas speak for the whole of the nation?

The following list of statistics has been making the rounds on the Internet. It should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense.

Do share this. It needs to be widely known and understood.

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57.


There are 62 counties in New York State.

Trump won 46 of them.

Clinton won 16.


Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes.

In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens)

Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)

Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.

The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.

Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!

But that 319 square miles are where the majority of our nation's problems foment.

Well worth the 39 seconds to read? Now please pass it on.
A refresher for you, Peter; br Electoral College. ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Apr 19, 2018 10:16:52   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Gatsby wrote:
First perma: Hillary is no lady! Second, I don't hate Hillary, I despise her, for the traitor to America that she is.

The Lousy way she ran her campaign into the ground, is exactly what she would have done to My Country!


Funny how Hiliary saved this country. She nailed the Democrat's nomination.

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Apr 19, 2018 14:04:08   #
maryla
 
Yep, It will be DJT time at mid-term elections The Democratic commentator pointed to the reason his party would not do so well...they are still focusing on obstructing everything Donald Trump does.
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Haven't YOU been using it!!!!! Your answer just now would seem so.
....and, yes, I'm projecting DJT to win a 2nd term....

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