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Apr 14, 2018 17:15:37   #
rumitoid
 
sisboombaa wrote:
Having conversed with a number of friends who were German citizens before and during the war, then migrated to the U.S. after the war, they all painted a different picture than you have. Also history tells that there were many assassination attempts on Hitler which all failed. So I assume it wasn't so rosy in Germany.

I do try to stay vigilant and inform my children and grand children plus reminding them that the game of life is now being played in their ball park. It is now up to them.

As far as one person making a difference it can't be me. I'm tired of trying to communicate with the large number of closed minds. This web site is a good example. Please excuse my being old and tired but that's my physical condition now; only to get worse. I do pray for our country and hope for the best as she has been great to me.
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The assassination attempts came well into WWII. It was extremely rosy in Germany then, from circa '37 to '41. We differ fundamentally about life, but I do not disregard your opinion. For me, life is not a game. Or a war. Or a challenge. It is just life. Meaning, live and act in the world as if you live forever and die today. Take care of your teeth and have some chocolate. Never forget to say I love you to those close each day yet do not forget to confront them each day on their actions, if necessary. I am 71. The most important things--poor choice of a word--are my daughter and grandkids. They are still too young for the false "game of life" to be in their court. Pause. I am not arguing against how you see things, only saying how I do. How do closed minds get opened? By silence? We each have a master key to certain people. The audience may be large or extremely small. But if we do not speak, those souls not only may be lost but add to the misery.

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Apr 14, 2018 17:47:53   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
The assassination attempts came well into WWII. It was extremely rosy in Germany then, from circa '37 to '41. We differ fundamentally about life, but I do not disregard your opinion. For me, life is not a game. Or a war. Or a challenge. It is just life. Meaning, live and act in the world as if you live forever and die today. Take care of your teeth and have some chocolate. Never forget to say I love you to those close each day yet do not forget to confront them each day on their actions, if necessary. I am 71. The most important things--poor choice of a word--are my daughter and grandkids. They are still too young for the false "game of life" to be in their court. Pause. I am not arguing against how you see things, only saying how I do. How do closed minds get opened? By silence? We each have a master key to certain people. The audience may be large or extremely small. But if we do not speak, those souls not only may be lost but add to the misery.
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there are times I can agree with you rumi


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Apr 14, 2018 17:59:13   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
there are times I can agree with you rumi



Same here but very very rarely.

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Apr 14, 2018 18:53:19   #
rumitoid
 
badbobby wrote:
there are times I can agree with you rumi



Sincerely, thank you for that.

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Apr 14, 2018 18:54:41   #
rumitoid
 
bahmer wrote:
Same here but very very rarely.


Really? Very very or just very? Never mind, lol.

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Apr 14, 2018 23:33:28   #
sisboombaa
 
rumitoid wrote:
The assassination attempts came well into WWII. It was extremely rosy in Germany then, from circa '37 to '41. We differ fundamentally about life, but I do not disregard your opinion. For me, life is not a game. Or a war. Or a challenge. It is just life. Meaning, live and act in the world as if you live forever and die today. Take care of your teeth and have some chocolate. Never forget to say I love you to those close each day yet do not forget to confront them each day on their actions, if necessary. I am 71. The most important things--poor choice of a word--are my daughter and grandkids. They are still too young for the false "game of life" to be in their court. Pause. I am not arguing against how you see things, only saying how I do. How do closed minds get opened? By silence? We each have a master key to certain people. The audience may be large or extremely small. But if we do not speak, those souls not only may be lost but add to the misery.
The assassination attempts came well into WWII. It... (show quote)


If you mean there were only assassination attempts during the war "to the best of your knowledge" I would agree. How many attempts were made that never were revealed we may never know.

I refer to our short lives as a game because it helps soften the blows. Being religious and expecting a spiritual life after the death of my three dimensional body it helps me deal with those things and people that are less than perfect, including my own imperfections. I realize it's just a mind set but it sure works for me. For many years I have not felt anger or self pity. It's been a blessing. I always remember that this physical life is temporary; the only thing permanent is love.

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Apr 14, 2018 23:58:34   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
There is no easy divide on the responses from the Left and Right on this action by the president. I commend the action, though I feel in should have gone to Congress for approval, which it seems he would have gotten. Unilateral decisions by a president to bomb countries that have neither attacked our nation or appear to pose a plausible threat is a highly dangerous policy, especially in this instance with the warnings of retaliation from a major nuclear power, Russia. Yet I believe, still believe, that America stands as the watchdog for justice and freedom in the world, and the America first notion betrays our principles.

But the alt-right--Laura Ingram, Infowars, and others--attacked Trump for betraying what seemed to be his fundamental promise to the nation. MAGA was not to involve bleeding our country and our resources and our youth in squabbles around the globe which were not serving our best interests.

What do you think?
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It takes time to sift through all the blather. Who knows who attacked who with what when where why how? All I know is I've told you WWIII starts there...looks like I'm going to be right.

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Apr 15, 2018 07:17:40   #
rumitoid
 
sisboombaa wrote:
If you mean there were only assassination attempts during the war "to the best of your knowledge" I would agree. How many attempts were made that never were revealed we may never know.

I refer to our short lives as a game because it helps soften the blows. Being religious and expecting a spiritual life after the death of my three dimensional body it helps me deal with those things and people that are less than perfect, including my own imperfections. I realize it's just a mind set but it sure works for me. For many years I have not felt anger or self pity. It's been a blessing. I always remember that this physical life is temporary; the only thing permanent is love.
If you mean there were only assassination attempts... (show quote)


Well put, and I agree about "the only thing permanent is love." Nice to meet you.

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Apr 15, 2018 07:40:04   #
maryla
 
I am not quite sure who to believe. Have you seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF60VV3G3_Y&feature=youtu.be&t=671
rumitoid wrote:
There is no easy divide on the responses from the Left and Right on this action by the president. I commend the action, though I feel in should have gone to Congress for approval, which it seems he would have gotten. Unilateral decisions by a president to bomb countries that have neither attacked our nation or appear to pose a plausible threat is a highly dangerous policy, especially in this instance with the warnings of retaliation from a major nuclear power, Russia. Yet I believe, still believe, that America stands as the watchdog for justice and freedom in the world, and the America first notion betrays our principles.

But the alt-right--Laura Ingram, Infowars, and others--attacked Trump for betraying what seemed to be his fundamental promise to the nation. MAGA was not to involve bleeding our country and our resources and our youth in squabbles around the globe which were not serving our best interests.

What do you think?
There is no easy divide on the responses from the ... (show quote)

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Apr 15, 2018 09:30:00   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
rumitoid wrote:
There is no easy divide on the responses from the Left and Right on this action by the president. I commend the action, though I feel in should have gone to Congress for approval, which it seems he would have gotten. Unilateral decisions by a president to bomb countries that have neither attacked our nation or appear to pose a plausible threat is a highly dangerous policy, especially in this instance with the warnings of retaliation from a major nuclear power, Russia. Yet I believe, still believe, that America stands as the watchdog for justice and freedom in the world, and the America first notion betrays our principles.

But the alt-right--Laura Ingram, Infowars, and others--attacked Trump for betraying what seemed to be his fundamental promise to the nation. MAGA was not to involve bleeding our country and our resources and our youth in squabbles around the globe which were not serving our best interests.

What do you think?
There is no easy divide on the responses from the ... (show quote)


Thanks for asking, rumitoid!
Trump has allowed the CFR "consultants" to get him to go against what he ran on. VERY disappointing; but he did save this Republic from total decimation.

I am a Conservative/Populist; but I am not a NeoCON
Trump bombed Syria for atrocities? 11 dead was the last count? (no photos yet)
What about these atrocities going on for years?
(BTW; many videos showing the victims have been removed from You Tube)
Phosphorous on Gaza by Israel
Israel creates hell on earth for Palestinians "White Phosphorus"
https://youtu.be/s0igorvoBFs
White phosphorus On Gaza Jan 13 2009
https://youtu.be/e0AZY7_b9UU
Gaza 12:00 - 1:00 am Jan 14th 09 part 2
https://youtu.be/WKPwYWwED2I
Israel accused of using phosphorus shells
https://youtu.be/ynY-My59iV0
Israeli army 'using white phosphorus' - 12 Jan 08
https://youtu.be/MKgph9PV3SA
US admit using white phosphorus munitions in Iraq (Warning: Disturbing images)
https://youtu.be/rO4C-i6RQ-0

BTW; The US has been aiding and abetting the ISIS terrorist mercenaries going against Assad in the Syrian conflict.

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Apr 15, 2018 10:07:41   #
Paybacktimeishere
 
Was Trump Right To Bomb Syria?

I personally, thought President Trump's Campaigne Rhetoric, Included NOT Being, This
F***** UP, World's, "POLICEMAN", Nor Anymore, So Called, "NATION BUILDING"??
AMERICA Need's To Come First; because, since
Eight Year's Of The Treasonous, Communist, MUSLIM, MULATTO, Has About "Ripped The Nation Asunder", & Need's To Be Addressed.
America's "INFRA-STRUCTURE",REMAIN'S UN-
REPAIRED!!! WHY Doesn't President Trump Have A "POW-WOW", With MINISTER, LOUIS FARAKHAN, Of The NOI, Together With, The WHITE, NATIONALIST LEADER, DAVID DUKE, Ph.D., In Regard, To The Ongoing, RACIAL TENSION'S, That Are Worse Than Ever??? Most Of Us Know, That The Leftist, Radical, "MEDIA",
& HOLLYWOOD'S TRASHY, ANTI-WHITE, "B & C"
"Movies, & TV, Are DISHONEST, & "COVER-UP" WHAT'S Really Going On!? WHY Aren't We Concerned,
About Communist, BOLIVIA, CUBA, NICARAGUA, & The Unrest, Going On In "COMMIE", VENEZUELA!? IT Seem's To Me, To Be The "Same Old Song"!? This Is The Worse,
Condition, I Have Ever Seen, IN AMERICA, Since The Vietnam War Ended On April 30, 1975!!! Former President BUSH, & His "Side-Kick", CHENNEY,
Had Absolutely, "NO PLAN", For IRAG, After We
Defeated, The Tyrant, Saddam Hussein, & Ended Up, Leaving One "HELL Of A MESS"!!!
FINI

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Apr 15, 2018 10:26:05   #
Gatsby
 
Keep in mind that this is Obama's war, U.S. combat troops are in Syria because Obama sent them there.

Service men and women serving in Syria will likely view this attack as a means of protecting them from Assad's gas.

No one in the msm seems to care to ask any of them for their opinion.

rumitoid wrote:
As noted by someone else earlier, a "coherent policy" needs to be developed, thereby consulting Congress. Also, unilateral decisions to attack other governments by a president is unwise and very dangerous. I am not saying that it was wrong. But the attack was highly controversial on many levels, as noted by criticism of some of Trump's staunchest supporters. It is a complex and delicate issue. Syrian did not attack or pose a threat to the US of A. There was no declaration of War by Syria against out government. This is problematic. And there are many more nuanced considerations involved.
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Apr 15, 2018 10:54:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Paybacktimeishere wrote:
Was Trump Right To Bomb Syria?

I personally, thought President Trump's Campaigne Rhetoric, Included NOT Being, This
F***** UP, World's, "POLICEMAN", Nor Anymore, So Called, "NATION BUILDING"??
AMERICA Need's To Come First; because, since
Eight Year's Of The Treasonous, Communist, MUSLIM, MULATTO, Has About "Ripped The Nation Asunder", & Need's To Be Addressed.
America's "INFRA-STRUCTURE",REMAIN'S UN-
REPAIRED!!! WHY Doesn't President Trump Have A "POW-WOW", With MINISTER, LOUIS FARAKHAN, Of The NOI, Together With, The WHITE, NATIONALIST LEADER, DAVID DUKE, Ph.D., In Regard, To The Ongoing, RACIAL TENSION'S, That Are Worse Than Ever??? Most Of Us Know, That The Leftist, Radical, "MEDIA",
& HOLLYWOOD'S TRASHY, ANTI-WHITE, "B & C"
"Movies, & TV, Are DISHONEST, & "COVER-UP" WHAT'S Really Going On!? WHY Aren't We Concerned,
About Communist, BOLIVIA, CUBA, NICARAGUA, & The Unrest, Going On In "COMMIE", VENEZUELA!? IT Seem's To Me, To Be The "Same Old Song"!? This Is The Worse,
Condition, I Have Ever Seen, IN AMERICA, Since The Vietnam War Ended On April 30, 1975!!! Former President BUSH, & His "Side-Kick", CHENNEY,
Had Absolutely, "NO PLAN", For IRAG, After We
Defeated, The Tyrant, Saddam Hussein, & Ended Up, Leaving One "HELL Of A MESS"!!!
FINI
Was Trump Right To Bomb Syria? br br I p... (show quote)


Yep!!!
I personally, thought President Trump's Campaigne Rhetoric, Included NOT Being, This
F***** UP, World's, "POLICEMAN", Nor Anymore, So Called, "NATION BUILDING"??
AMERICA Need's To Come First; because, since
Eight Year's Of The Treasonous, Communist, MUSLIM, MULATTO, Has About "Ripped The Nation Asunder", & Need's To Be Addressed.
America's "INFRA-STRUCTURE",REMAIN'S UN-
REPAIRED!!! WHY Doesn't President Trump Have A "POW-WOW", With MINISTER, LOUIS FARAKHAN, Of The NOI, Together With, The WHITE, NATIONALIST LEADER, DAVID DUKE, Ph.D., In Regard, To The Ongoing, RACIAL TENSION'S, That Are Worse Than Ever??? Most Of Us Know, That The Leftist, Radical, "MEDIA",
& HOLLYWOOD'S TRASHY, ANTI-WHITE, "B & C"
"Movies, & TV, Are DISHONEST, & "COVER-UP" WHAT'S Really Going On!? WHY Aren't We Concerned,
About Communist, BOLIVIA, CUBA, NICARAGUA, & The Unrest, Going On In "COMMIE", VENEZUELA!? IT Seem's To Me, To Be The "Same Old Song"!? This Is The Worse,
Condition, I Have Ever Seen, IN AMERICA, Since The Vietnam War Ended On April 30, 1975!!! Former President BUSH, & His "Side-Kick", CHENNEY,
Had Absolutely, "NO PLAN", For IRAG, After We
Defeated, The Tyrant, Saddam Hussein, & Ended Up, Leaving One "HELL Of A MESS"!!!"

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Apr 15, 2018 10:57:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Gatsby wrote:
Keep in mind that this is Obama's war, U.S. combat troops are in Syria because Obama sent them there.

Service men and women serving in Syria will likely view this attack as a means of protecting them from Assad's gas.

No one in the msm seems to care to ask any of them for their opinion.


Good point;
BUT; those active in the service, are not allowed to speak on the record against the Commander in Chief.
Especially the grunts.

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Apr 15, 2018 11:19:37   #
Lonewolf
 
Kevyn wrote:
It is a largely meaningless jesture, they should have attacked command and control, air defenses and Assad’s residences and offices. You don’t put fear in a despots by blowing out a warehouse. Putting one down the chimney at each of his homes and palaces is a whole other story. And if he is smoked all the better. As an aside it is time to take Putin down a notch or two and remind him Russia’s place in the world. A little humiliation of the Russians is long overdue.


agree all Putin would let trump do was to bomb some vacant buildings

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