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Apr 9, 2018 11:50:36   #
jim_shipley
 
Is the US going to allow Israel to drag us into another mid-east war? Israel has been bombing Syria on a regular basis and flying hundreds of missions over Syria and Iran just daring them to respond. Trump is way to friendly with Israel and they are leading him by the nose into another useless war that we can not afford.

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Apr 9, 2018 11:58:33   #
Liberty Tree
 
jim_shipley wrote:
Is the US going to allow Israel to drag us into another mid-east war? Israel has been bombing Syria on a regular basis and flying hundreds of missions over Syria and Iran just daring them to respond. Trump is way to friendly with Israel and they are leading him by the nose into another useless war that we can not afford.


Strange you do not mention attacks on Israel. How convenient.

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Apr 9, 2018 12:05:39   #
Big dog
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Strange you do not mention attacks on Israel. How convenient.


I noticed that too. I guess liberals don't believe in self-defense.

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Apr 9, 2018 12:11:56   #
jim_shipley
 
What attacks? exactly where in Israel has been bombed by aircraft?

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Apr 9, 2018 12:37:08   #
Liberty Tree
 
jim_shipley wrote:
What attacks? exactly where in Israel has been bombed by aircraft?


Ever heard of rockets and missiles?

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Apr 9, 2018 13:02:39   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
jim_shipley wrote:
What attacks? exactly where in Israel has been bombed by aircraft?


Good one Jim. I have to just shake my head at some of the comments by many here on OPP. Many do not realize the difference between Judaism and Zionism.

I would like to direct their attention to the work "The Zionist Plan for the Middle East"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%20Plan%20for%20the%20Middle%20East.pdf

Translated and edited by Israel Shahak from Oded Yinon's "A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties"
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The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state. Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its source of moral legitimation.

Or, they could take a look at "Zionism vs. Judaism", by Alan Hart. http://www.zionismbook.com/#about-the-book

"Almost everything you've been conditioned to believe about the making and sustaining of conflict in and over Palestine that became Israel is not true.
It's not true that all the Palestinians who became refugees in 1948 left their homeland voluntarily. Most were driven out by Zionist terrorism and ethnic cleansing.
It's not true that Israel has lived in constant danger of annihilation, the "driving into the sea" of its Jews. Israel's existence has never, ever, been in danger.
And it's not true that Israel never had Arab partners for peace. It's Zionism that has never been interested in peace on terms the vast majority of Palestinians and most other Arabs and Muslims everywhere could accept.

Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews is a journey through the propaganda lies and truth of history.
When the citizens of nations know the difference between Zionism's propaganda lies and the documented facts and truth of history, they will be empowered, if they care, to demand that their governments act to end Israel's oppression of the Palestinians. And that's why Alan Hart devoted more than five years of his life to researching and writing this book - to empower citizens to play their necessary part in stopping the countdown to catastrophe for all.

Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews is a complete re-writing of the history of the making and sustaining of the conflict, replacing Zionist mythology with events as they actually happened. The events are given global context to enable all readers to see how all the pieces of the most complex and complicated jig-saw puzzle fit together."

Perhaps they should read the piece by Mark Weber entitled "A Straight Look at the Jewish Lobby"
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/jewishlobby.shtml

Or, how about the "Introduction to the Israel Lobby"
http://ifamericaknew.org/us_ints/introlobby.html

The Israel lobby is one of the most powerful and pervasive special interest groups in the United States. It consists of a multitude of powerful institutions and individuals that work to influence Congress, the president, academia, the media, religious institutions, and American public opinion on behalf of Israel.

Let's be very clear here, I am not anti- Jewish, I am anti-Zionist. I do not want to see the United States be tricked, coerced, bribed, or manipulated into using our military and treasury to do the Zionist bidding. The media, and our politicians have done an admiral job of manipulating public opinion in this regard.

Do not forget (if you even remember) the USS Liberty incident http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

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Apr 10, 2018 10:31:41   #
Mike Easterday
 
As long as they keep bombing musrats leave Isreal alone

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Apr 10, 2018 17:14:40   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
jim_shipley wrote:
What attacks? exactly where in Israel has been bombed by aircraft?


Don't need to, the Iron Dome has taken down most missiles, so a big fat slower aircraft would not be a problem. Israel was attacked by air and ground forces during the War of Independence and the Six-day war. Have you noticed how the missiles seem to always miss their targets? Even Saddam's Scuds missed.
You might read history but can't seem to remember it. Our War Colleges don't even study Israel's victories because you can't explain them with a secular mind.

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