NRA is advised to give a little, so as not to lose a lot: Would the NRA's life come to an end if long guns could only be purchased by people over 21 years of age? I don't think so.

Chocura750

Would the NRA's life come to an end if long guns could only be purchased by people over 21 years of age? I don't think so. There are other reasonable restrictions which the NRA should give on and accept. It would be a long and difficult process, but I'm sure there are many who would favor the complete abolition of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment allows reasonable restrictions on the use and ownership of guns and I would advise the NRA not to approach each one proposed as the end of the world. There's wisdom in the practice of giving a little to keep a lot.

boatbob2

The problem,of allowing our government,to raise the age to buy rifles to 21 is,IF,you give in to this,without a fight,WHAT,do they want to do next?Maybe take guns from everyone over 65 yrears of age? what the libs,demoncrats and gun haters fail to realize is,MORE people were killed by Doctors,and OPIODS (46,000) dead in 2016,...cars,knifes,cell phones (used while driving) skateboards,base ball bats,fists,motorcycles,bicycles ALL killed a number of people,lets ban ALL of those things,THEN,WE can talk about guns.....

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Chocura750 wrote:

Would the NRA's life come to an end if long guns c... (show quote)

Your theory is wrong on this basis..if you would be gun grabbers ever take one gun or outlaw magazine capacity..You gun grabbers won't be happy with just that..You people are not unlike Hitler, in wanting to disarm law abiding citizens..I heard Leftist Liars say "they're not going after all guns"...but just like a blackmailer or extortionist..your won't be satisfied until,you guys get it all..and make it where we the people cannot defend ourselves..
One ominous truth for Progs to consider..you anti-gun nuts...will be defenseless too..

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Chocura750 wrote:

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I'm good with that as long as they raise the age for military service to 21.

Your mention of abolishing the 2nd Amendment almost sounds like a threat to me. Give you what you want, or else!

Well then, get after it! Go ahead and see if you can get er done! I dare you!

Chocura750

I personally don't want to abolish the Second Amendment, since I like Ralphie in "The Christmas Story" want to be able to pick off the righties when they come over the back wall. The slippery slope argument doesn't persuade me. By opposing everything the NRA will solidify its image as a bunch radicals as nuts as it's president.

TrueAmerican

Chocura750 wrote:

I personally don't want to abolish the Second Amendment, since I like Ralphie in "The Christmas Story" want to be able to pick off the righties when they come over the back wall. The slippery slope argument doesn't persuade me. By opposing everything the NRA will solidify its image as a bunch radicals as nuts as it's president.

Rest assured this IS how the left WILL take the guns, one small law at a time. NRA MUST stand up to this nonsense and any other nonsense as it applies to the second amendment !!!!!!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Chocura750 wrote:

I personally don't want to abolish the Second Amendment, since I like Ralphie in "The Christmas Story" want to be able to pick off the righties when they come over the back wall. The slippery slope argument doesn't persuade me. By opposing everything the NRA will solidify its image as a bunch radicals as nuts as it's president.

It won't be the righties coming over your back wall. It'll be your own kind.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

archie bunker wrote:

I'm good with that as long as they raise the age for military service to 21.

Your mention of abolishing the 2nd Amendment almost sounds like a threat to me. Give you what you want, or else!

Well then, get after it! Go ahead and see if you can get er done! I dare you!

Absolutely, how could we be recruiting young men and women of eighteen for military service and not allowed them to possess a personal gun at home..
Raising the age of military service to 21 seems like a good idea in itself..
Without denying their right to buy a gun until 21..
All of the families who hunt together would be deprived of that tradition of presenting guns to young hunter's..along with proper safety guide lines..

I would like to know how many 'mass shooters' have a hunting license or how many are NRA members

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

boatbob2 wrote:

The problem,of allowing our government,to raise th... (show quote)

you do nothing but echo what the NRA says each and every time some regulation is proposed.

We have to accept some regulation or in time we could well see very restrictive laws passed..

archie bunker Loc: Texas

byronglimish wrote:

Absolutely, how could we be recruiting young men a... (show quote)

My son received his first long gun at the age of 12. As did my 12 year old grandson. As with my son, my grandson is only allowed to handle, or use it under close adult supervision. And, as with my son, my grandson is required by law to take a hunter safety course before he can obtain his first hunting license at the age of 18.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

archie bunker wrote:

My son received his first long gun at the age of 12. As did my 12 year old grandson. As with my son, my grandson is only allowed to handle, or use it under close adult supervision. And, as with my son, my grandson is required by law to take a hunter safety course before he can obtain his first hunting license at the age of 18.

That's the good way..

boatbob2

Why would you all,want to raise the age to enter OUR US Military to 21,I joined The US Army at 17 years old,BUT,now,.a BUNCH of kiddies cant join (the US Military doesnt want them) because of overweight (fat), or tatooes,or police records. kids nowadays are all mommas boys (mostly).

Gatsby

Congratulations, this issue that will get out millions more 18-20 year old voters all accross the red states!

How many of these 18-20 year olds do you think will "get out there and vote" to restrict their own rights, even in blue states?

Chocura750 wrote:

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archie bunker Loc: Texas

boatbob2 wrote:

Why would you all,want to raise the age to enter OUR US Military to 21,I joined The US Army at 17 years old,BUT,now,.a BUNCH of kiddies cant join (the US Military doesnt want them) because of overweight (fat), or tatooes,or police records. kids nowadays are all mommas boys (mostly).

Yeah, or they can't pass a drug test.
My thinking on the military is that if we can't trust an 18 year old with a .22, how can we trust them with the most lethal weapons on the planet?
Besides that, like you said, kids now aren't anywhere near as mature as you guys were.

woodguru

Now there's some good advice, I've been saying that if the right doesn't start giving on things like background checks, wait periods, mental health links to background checks, bump stocks, magazine size, there is a whole lot more to be lost.

California has been reviled by the right as commie land, the laws we have here did alter crime rates. I just want the rest of the country brought to the standard we've been living with so that is doesn't go a whole lot deeper than this state deals with. If society gets really pissed off that the right and NRA has prevented anything to be done at all, it will not go well.

I have a ton of friends who I competed in pistol and benchrest competitions with from back in the 70's. They like me own dozens of guns, some hundreds. They have all abandoned the NRA and support sensible gun laws. Moderates who have no problem with the sensible side feel like we are watching a train wreck, because when the left and middle gets fed up it's over in a different way.