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This is Trump's true base: over 20,000 Republicans just voted for an actual Nazi
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Mar 22, 2018 13:00:25   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
Rumitiod,,Someone has to stick up for the white race.

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Mar 22, 2018 17:21:55   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
rumitoid wrote:
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.

On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.

Jones’ Nazi-sympathies were not a secret going into election day. His campaign website features a slideshow of pictures of him speaking at white nationalist events. He is a perennial candidate who has previously run for U.S. House, Chicago alderman, and mayor of Chicago, and even mayor of Milwaukee. Chicago media extensively covered the race. The Anti-Defamation League warned voters of his record. The chairman of Illinois Republican Party even disavowed him, saying “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”

Still, a stunning portion of the GOP primary electorate opted to cast their ballot for Jones rather than nobody. This includes, according to unofficial totals as of Wednesday morning, 13,158 voters in suburban Cook County (more than 70 percent of 18,595 GOP primary ballots cast), 4,093 voters in Will County, 3,023 voters in the City of Chicago, and 65 voters in DuPage County.

While the National Republican Congressional Committee, the campaign arm of the House GOP, dismissed Jones last month as “a fringe candidate who has been doing this for over a decade with with no real connection to the GOP,” his campaign platform mirrors President Trump’s agenda. Jones’ campaign website promises to “put America first” with border protections, the elimination of “Sanctuary Cities”, no “amnesty for illegal aliens,” gun rights, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
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rumi: Are you the current head of the democrat communist/nazi party?

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Mar 22, 2018 17:23:33   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
rumitoid wrote:
Please give some site to that the Communist Party supported Hillary. The subject is not about having no control over who endorses a candidate. The candidate is a Nazi. It makes no difference the GOP did not support him; over 20,000 Republicans voted for a Nazi.


rumi: Back under your rock!



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Mar 22, 2018 17:36:46   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
I suspect that most of the votes Jones got were from people whose only knowledge of Jones was his name on the Republican primary ballot. Since the widespread use of primaries to select candidates became standard, I don't think parties have had much control over candidate selection. The 3rd Illinois District is probably so heavily Democratic that no reputable Republican would bother to seek the party's nomination. I wouldn't make a big deal out of this result, as embarrassing as it might be, I don't think it says much about the typical Republican.
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That's what I was thinking, he was the only republican running and out of fear a progressive could win, most voters would just vote party line

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Mar 22, 2018 17:46:41   #
maryjane
 
rumitoid wrote:
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.

On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.

Jones’ Nazi-sympathies were not a secret going into election day. His campaign website features a slideshow of pictures of him speaking at white nationalist events. He is a perennial candidate who has previously run for U.S. House, Chicago alderman, and mayor of Chicago, and even mayor of Milwaukee. Chicago media extensively covered the race. The Anti-Defamation League warned voters of his record. The chairman of Illinois Republican Party even disavowed him, saying “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”

Still, a stunning portion of the GOP primary electorate opted to cast their ballot for Jones rather than nobody. This includes, according to unofficial totals as of Wednesday morning, 13,158 voters in suburban Cook County (more than 70 percent of 18,595 GOP primary ballots cast), 4,093 voters in Will County, 3,023 voters in the City of Chicago, and 65 voters in DuPage County.

While the National Republican Congressional Committee, the campaign arm of the House GOP, dismissed Jones last month as “a fringe candidate who has been doing this for over a decade with with no real connection to the GOP,” his campaign platform mirrors President Trump’s agenda. Jones’ campaign website promises to “put America first” with border protections, the elimination of “Sanctuary Cities”, no “amnesty for illegal aliens,” gun rights, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
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While shameful, this really is not surprising. After all, look at many of the current members of Congress (Pelosi, Waters, etc) that voters keep returning to office repeatedly. This is why we will NEVER be able to hold Congress accountable to the people. Only the voters in Missouri have any voting power over Missouri's federal Congress members. So, if those voters choose to keep reelecting the same dishonest, unscrupulous, self-serving idiots, no one elsewhere can do anything to stop them. I fully expect her California voters to keep Maxine Waters in congress as long as she wsnts to stay there, even though her record us absymal. My own state has a "grave mistake" in Congress but I can do nothing about him because I do not live in that voting district. So frustrating. But look at the number of Americans that STILL adore Obama and Hillary despite all the facts that have emerged. Denial of the truth is a human failing and some humans are really excellent at it.

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Mar 22, 2018 18:35:15   #
acknowledgeurma
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
That's what I was thinking, he was the only republican running and out of fear a progressive could win, most voters would just vote party line

In 2016, there was no Republican in the 3rd district race; the Democratic incumbent (Daniel Lipinski) ran unoppose (only 91 write ins against him) out of over 225,000 cast.

At least now the Republicans' now have a dog in the race. I wonder if the Republicans' dog is yellow or some other color (perhaps red, white, and black).

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Mar 22, 2018 19:10:20   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
In 2016, there was no Republican in the 3rd district race; the Democratic incumbent (Daniel Lipinski) ran unoppose (only 91 write ins against him) out of over 225,000 cast.

At least now the Republicans' now have a dog in the race. I wonder if the Republicans' dog is yellow or some other color (perhaps red, white, and black).



While his beliefs are horrible, and ungodly. Maybe he will support our president’s policies and agendas. Id rather have someone elected that serves the people with an ugly background, than a clean slate and be another Rhino.

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Mar 22, 2018 20:15:54   #
emarine
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
While his beliefs are horrible, and ungodly. Maybe he will support our president’s policies and agendas. Id rather have someone elected that serves the people with an ugly background, than a clean slate and be another Rhino.




that's some piss poor logic there Jack...

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Mar 22, 2018 21:39:00   #
badbob85037
 
What they voted for is if Democrats are for it then they know they must be against it. Their reason is there is nothing Democrats have touched they haven't turned to crap. If you think different then give me an example. They turn cities to crap, states to crap, and almost turned this nation to crap. To be a real patriot I don't think of a democrat as the other party. They are the enemy to every American and the Republican Party isn't much better.

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Mar 22, 2018 22:10:45   #
acknowledgeurma
 
badbob85037 wrote:
What they voted for is if Democrats are for it then they know they must be against it. Their reason is there is nothing Democrats have touched they haven't turned to crap. If you think different then give me an example. They turn cities to crap, states to crap, and almost turned this nation to crap. To be a real patriot I don't think of a democrat as the other party. They are the enemy to every American and the Republican Party isn't much better.

What did Jesus say about how to treat your enemy?

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Mar 23, 2018 09:17:55   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
emarine wrote:
that's some piss poor logic there Jack...


marine: You're pie hole has a propensity to spew piss poor logic!!!!

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Mar 23, 2018 11:48:57   #
JoyV
 
rumitoid wrote:
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.

On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.

Jones’ Nazi-sympathies were not a secret going into election day. His campaign website features a slideshow of pictures of him speaking at white nationalist events. He is a perennial candidate who has previously run for U.S. House, Chicago alderman, and mayor of Chicago, and even mayor of Milwaukee. Chicago media extensively covered the race. The Anti-Defamation League warned voters of his record. The chairman of Illinois Republican Party even disavowed him, saying “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”

Still, a stunning portion of the GOP primary electorate opted to cast their ballot for Jones rather than nobody. This includes, according to unofficial totals as of Wednesday morning, 13,158 voters in suburban Cook County (more than 70 percent of 18,595 GOP primary ballots cast), 4,093 voters in Will County, 3,023 voters in the City of Chicago, and 65 voters in DuPage County.

While the National Republican Congressional Committee, the campaign arm of the House GOP, dismissed Jones last month as “a fringe candidate who has been doing this for over a decade with with no real connection to the GOP,” his campaign platform mirrors President Trump’s agenda. Jones’ campaign website promises to “put America first” with border protections, the elimination of “Sanctuary Cities”, no “amnesty for illegal aliens,” gun rights, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
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Strange that a Nazi would become a registered Republican. Even if only recently. Since the original Nazi's were a type of socialist. National socialist. In other words, they focus on the socialist ideals within their own nation before elsewhere. Trump supporters want our government to give priority to our own citizens. So there is one point of similarity. Yet it is the liberals and progressives who want our government to have the power to control everyone. They want conformity in the populous enforced by the government (totalitarianism). This was also the case with the Nazis. And the current white supremacists in the US have also lost track of which party they historically belong to. It was the Dems who passed Dredd Scot. It was the Dems who fought for slavery. It was the Dems who founded the KKK. It was the Dems who initiated Jim Crow laws. It was the Dems who resisted desegregation. Etc etc... And it is the Dems who have been behind much of the antisemitism currently escalating in the US.

As for the campaign talking points, many who have seen how Americans have responded to Trump's message have begun saying the same things. They recognize the talking points are popular. But since he has been, "doing this for over a decade"; what was in his previous campaign's rhetoric? Jones himself has spoken out in opposition to Trump. At a neo-Nazi meeting in Kentucky, Jones said that Trump "surrounded himself with hordes of Jews including a Jew in his own family, that punk named Jared Kushner", and moved on to say "I’m sorry I voted for the son of a bitch, pardon my English" and that Trump was "nothing but a puppet … this Jew-loving fool", all of which was also captured on video.

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Mar 23, 2018 11:54:53   #
JoyV
 
GmanTerry wrote:
Hillary ran under the full support of the American Communist Party. Candidates really have no control over who endorses them.


The KKK also endorsed her. Grand Dragon Will Quigg. Hillary never spoke out against the endorsement. While another KKK leader endorsed Trump. But Trump immediately denounced the KKK endorsement.

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Mar 23, 2018 13:52:21   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
emarine wrote:
that's some piss poor logic there Jack...



Apparently your reading skills are lacking.
"if they served the people"

Or would you prefer a squeaky clean self serving rhino?

Do you need time to process this?

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Mar 23, 2018 17:22:09   #
acknowledgeurma
 
JoyV wrote:
Strange that a Nazi would become a registered Republican. Even if only recently. Since the original Nazi's were a type of socialist. National socialist. In other words, they focus on the socialist ideals within their own nation before elsewhere. Trump supporters want our government to give priority to our own citizens. So there is one point of similarity. Yet it is the liberals and progressives who want our government to have the power to control everyone. They want conformity in the populous enforced by the government (totalitarianism). This was also the case with the Nazis. And the current white supremacists in the US have also lost track of which party they historically belong to. It was the Dems who passed Dredd Scot. It was the Dems who fought for slavery. It was the Dems who founded the KKK. It was the Dems who initiated Jim Crow laws. It was the Dems who resisted desegregation. Etc etc... And it is the Dems who have been behind much of the antisemitism currently escalating in the US.

As for the campaign talking points, many who have seen how Americans have responded to Trump's message have begun saying the same things. They recognize the talking points are popular. But since he has been, "doing this for over a decade"; what was in his previous campaign's rhetoric? Jones himself has spoken out in opposition to Trump. At a neo-Nazi meeting in Kentucky, Jones said that Trump "surrounded himself with hordes of Jews including a Jew in his own family, that punk named Jared Kushner", and moved on to say "I’m sorry I voted for the son of a bitch, pardon my English" and that Trump was "nothing but a puppet … this Jew-loving fool", all of which was also captured on video.
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As I have already said, people are reading too much into this. It is not strange that he would register as a Republican in the Illinois 3rd District, not because Nazis have any particular affinity for Republican principles (despite what some may think). No, he would register as a Republican because no serious Republican would waste time registering in a so heavily Democratic district, thus giving Jones a sure victory in the primary and gobs of publicity. Jones is probably enjoying his 15 seconds in the nations eye (as in, poke-in-the-eye).

You, like many, want to read too much into the word Socialist in the Nazi's name. It has no where near the meaning democratic socialists place on the word (perhaps it is the same that a Stalinist would have). Both the Nazis and Bolsheviks quickly eliminated the democratic socialists. German industrialists (thinking they could keep control) backed the Nazis to eliminate the German left. Only in your fevered imagination do "the liberals and progressives...want our government to have the power to control everyone".

And as for the meme, being pushed, of "the Dems" being the party of slavery, a key adjective is missing, and that is Southern or Dixie. If one follows the political evolution of conservative Southern Democrats one will see the disingenuousness of this meme. References follows:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_the_Southern_United_States#The_South_becomes_Republican

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