Wouldn't It Make Sense To See What Mueller Has Before Deciding It's All Bull? No man is above the law including the president. Those who put him in office do not get to decide what he...

woodguru

No man is above the law including the president. Those who put him in office do not get to decide what he gets charged with and what he doesn't.

My guess is that Mueller has a dozen things that could have been used to trigger an impeachment in any past time in history. The danger is that the GOP has set the stage to disregard anything Mueller says. Much if not all will be considered classified, which leaves the GOP to say whatever they want knowing it's not the facts. Hopefully Mueller will make his disclosure and recommendations public so there can be no hidden room misrepresentations. My guess is that his results will be read in open chamber to congress, live on CNN.

Knowing that there is a very real chance that republicans could take a recommendation for impeachment and instead demand a long drawn out investigation of the investigation, Mueller is going to go for something that forces the need for Congress to act. Crimes such as money laundering, racketeering, tax fraud. Any of these things that carry criminal charges are good, and end Donald's presidency. The biggest potential is obstruction, every time Trump has opened his mouth or tweeted anything that undermines the investigation or those involved it is part of obstruction. Calls for investigations to be stopped are obstruction. Firing Comey was openly acknowledged as being about putting a stop to the investigation.

It was 100% clear that Mueller was taking this into consideration when he announced that he was opening up a joint investigation with New York's attorney general. No matter what happens to Mueller everything he is working on is not going away. Pardons will not work against state prosecutions, for himself, his kids, Flynn, Manafort, Page, none of the people who have been indicted and plead guilty are going to be pardoned. A pardon for any key witness against Trump is another nail in obstruction charges.

Congress could have opened up an impeachment a long time ago, and had Obama tried to interfere in any way with the endless Benghazi investigations he would have been hammered for obstruction. Years worth of endless investigations, did he once interfere and say enough? Now leak after leak is giving us a very clear picture of what this is about. I don't have a clue how anyone can look at what charges have been brought that resulted in guilty pleas and plea bargains and not realize that there are there's there. Come on, Flynn cutting a deal to protect his son, from what? His son is guilty of illegal acts as much as Flynn is, if he weren't Flynn wouldn't have to cut a deal to protect him.

Before running on already having made up minds, wait to see what the hard evidence looks like. There is something wrong with protecting a guilty person when he's busted. Evidence can't be made up, and investigations that result in evidence and proof of wrong doing is what it is. Trump is such an idiot you have to admit that he deserves everything he's bringing on himself.

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

woodguru wrote:

No man is above the law including the president. Those who put him in office do not get to decide what he gets charged with and what he doesn't.

My guess is that Mueller has a dozen things that could have been used to trigger an impeachment in any past time in history. The danger is that the GOP has set the stage to disregard anything Mueller says. Much if not all will be considered classified, which leaves the GOP to say whatever they want knowing it's not the facts. Hopefully Mueller will make his disclosure and recommendations public so there can be no hidden room misrepresentations. My guess is that his results will be read in open chamber to congress, live on CNN.

Knowing that there is a very real chance that republicans could take a recommendation for impeachment and instead demand a long drawn out investigation of the investigation, Mueller is going to go for something that forces the need for Congress to act. Crimes such as money laundering, racketeering, tax fraud. Any of these things that carry criminal charges are good, and end Donald's presidency. The biggest potential is obstruction, every time Trump has opened his mouth or tweeted anything that undermines the investigation or those involved it is part of obstruction. Calls for investigations to be stopped are obstruction. Firing Comey was openly acknowledged as being about putting a stop to the investigation.

It was 100% clear that Mueller was taking this into consideration when he announced that he was opening up a joint investigation with New York's attorney general. No matter what happens to Mueller everything he is working on is not going away. Pardons will not work against state prosecutions, for himself, his kids, Flynn, Manafort, Page, none of the people who have been indicted and plead guilty are going to be pardoned. A pardon for any key witness against Trump is another nail in obstruction charges.

Congress could have opened up an impeachment a long time ago, and had Obama tried to interfere in any way with the endless Benghazi investigations he would have been hammered for obstruction. Years worth of endless investigations, did he once interfere and say enough? Now leak after leak is giving us a very clear picture of what this is about. I don't have a clue how anyone can look at what charges have been brought that resulted in guilty pleas and plea bargains and not realize that there are there's there. Come on, Flynn cutting a deal to protect his son, from what? His son is guilty of illegal acts as much as Flynn is, if he weren't Flynn wouldn't have to cut a deal to protect him.

Before running on already having made up minds, wait to see what the hard evidence looks like. There is something wrong with protecting a guilty person when he's busted. Evidence can't be made up, and investigations that result in evidence and proof of wrong doing is what it is. Trump is such an idiot you have to admit that he deserves everything he's bringing on himself.

No man is above the law including the president. T... (show quote)

I guess Hillary (being a woman) is above the law. Obummer seemed to be above the law. Now, because it's Trump "No man is above the law".

Wonder whose side you're on??

archie bunker Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

No man is above the law including the president. Those who put him in office do not get to decide what he gets charged with and what he doesn't.

My guess is that Mueller has a dozen things that could have been used to trigger an impeachment in any past time in history. The danger is that the GOP has set the stage to disregard anything Mueller says. Much if not all will be considered classified, which leaves the GOP to say whatever they want knowing it's not the facts. Hopefully Mueller will make his disclosure and recommendations public so there can be no hidden room misrepresentations. My guess is that his results will be read in open chamber to congress, live on CNN.

Knowing that there is a very real chance that republicans could take a recommendation for impeachment and instead demand a long drawn out investigation of the investigation, Mueller is going to go for something that forces the need for Congress to act. Crimes such as money laundering, racketeering, tax fraud. Any of these things that carry criminal charges are good, and end Donald's presidency. The biggest potential is obstruction, every time Trump has opened his mouth or tweeted anything that undermines the investigation or those involved it is part of obstruction. Calls for investigations to be stopped are obstruction. Firing Comey was openly acknowledged as being about putting a stop to the investigation.

It was 100% clear that Mueller was taking this into consideration when he announced that he was opening up a joint investigation with New York's attorney general. No matter what happens to Mueller everything he is working on is not going away. Pardons will not work against state prosecutions, for himself, his kids, Flynn, Manafort, Page, none of the people who have been indicted and plead guilty are going to be pardoned. A pardon for any key witness against Trump is another nail in obstruction charges.

Congress could have opened up an impeachment a long time ago, and had Obama tried to interfere in any way with the endless Benghazi investigations he would have been hammered for obstruction. Years worth of endless investigations, did he once interfere and say enough? Now leak after leak is giving us a very clear picture of what this is about. I don't have a clue how anyone can look at what charges have been brought that resulted in guilty pleas and plea bargains and not realize that there are there's there. Come on, Flynn cutting a deal to protect his son, from what? His son is guilty of illegal acts as much as Flynn is, if he weren't Flynn wouldn't have to cut a deal to protect him.

Before running on already having made up minds, wait to see what the hard evidence looks like. There is something wrong with protecting a guilty person when he's busted. Evidence can't be made up, and investigations that result in evidence and proof of wrong doing is what it is. Trump is such an idiot you have to admit that he deserves everything he's bringing on himself.

No man is above the law including the president. T... (show quote)

Wouldn't it make sense to see what he has before passing judgement on anyone?

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

woodguru wrote:

No man is above the law including the president. Those who put him in office do not get to decide what he gets charged with and what he doesn't.

My guess is that Mueller has a dozen things that could have been used to trigger an impeachment in any past time in history. The danger is that the GOP has set the stage to disregard anything Mueller says. Much if not all will be considered classified, which leaves the GOP to say whatever they want knowing it's not the facts. Hopefully Mueller will make his disclosure and recommendations public so there can be no hidden room misrepresentations. My guess is that his results will be read in open chamber to congress, live on CNN.

Knowing that there is a very real chance that republicans could take a recommendation for impeachment and instead demand a long drawn out investigation of the investigation, Mueller is going to go for something that forces the need for Congress to act. Crimes such as money laundering, racketeering, tax fraud. Any of these things that carry criminal charges are good, and end Donald's presidency. The biggest potential is obstruction, every time Trump has opened his mouth or tweeted anything that undermines the investigation or those involved it is part of obstruction. Calls for investigations to be stopped are obstruction. Firing Comey was openly acknowledged as being about putting a stop to the investigation.

It was 100% clear that Mueller was taking this into consideration when he announced that he was opening up a joint investigation with New York's attorney general. No matter what happens to Mueller everything he is working on is not going away. Pardons will not work against state prosecutions, for himself, his kids, Flynn, Manafort, Page, none of the people who have been indicted and plead guilty are going to be pardoned. A pardon for any key witness against Trump is another nail in obstruction charges.

Congress could have opened up an impeachment a long time ago, and had Obama tried to interfere in any way with the endless Benghazi investigations he would have been hammered for obstruction. Years worth of endless investigations, did he once interfere and say enough? Now leak after leak is giving us a very clear picture of what this is about. I don't have a clue how anyone can look at what charges have been brought that resulted in guilty pleas and plea bargains and not realize that there are there's there. Come on, Flynn cutting a deal to protect his son, from what? His son is guilty of illegal acts as much as Flynn is, if he weren't Flynn wouldn't have to cut a deal to protect him.

Before running on already having made up minds, wait to see what the hard evidence looks like. There is something wrong with protecting a guilty person when he's busted. Evidence can't be made up, and investigations that result in evidence and proof of wrong doing is what it is. Trump is such an idiot you have to admit that he deserves everything he's bringing on himself.

No man is above the law including the president. T... (show quote)

And i have a question for you and all your democratic friends...If Mueller finds President not guilty of anything wrong doing, would you except his decision???..Or would you cry that President and Republicans interfierred in this decision and will try to discredit Mueller??

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

archie bunker wrote:

Wouldn't it make sense to see what he has before passing judgement on anyone?

We have seen enough to know Trump is a lying clown.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Bad Bob wrote:

We have seen enough to know Trump is a lying clown.

So is Hillary, and so is Obama, and so is Bill Clinton, et. al. ...... what's your point, other than you whacko liberals give your liberal politicians a pass on any bad behavior, but expect conservative politicians to be saints. Your hypocrisy is odious.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Hey Arch, I'm back from suspension. You stole what I was going too say. I found it strange how guru already did what he/she was accusing every body else doing. I predict Flynn will be vindicated. Wrongful prosecution.

archie bunker wrote:

Wouldn't it make sense to see what he has before passing judgement on anyone?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Trooper745 wrote:

So is Hillary, and so is Obama, and so is Bill Clinton, et. al. ...... what's your point, other than you whacko liberals give your liberal politicians a pass on any bad behavior, but expect conservative politicians to be saints. Your hypocrisy is odious.

What was Obama's sexual immoral conduct?

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

woodguru wrote:

No man is above the law including the president. Those who put him in office do not get to decide what he gets charged with and what he doesn't.

My guess is that Mueller has a dozen things that could have been used to trigger an impeachment in any past time in history. The danger is that the GOP has set the stage to disregard anything Mueller says. Much if not all will be considered classified, which leaves the GOP to say whatever they want knowing it's not the facts. Hopefully Mueller will make his disclosure and recommendations public so there can be no hidden room misrepresentations. My guess is that his results will be read in open chamber to congress, live on CNN.

Knowing that there is a very real chance that republicans could take a recommendation for impeachment and instead demand a long drawn out investigation of the investigation, Mueller is going to go for something that forces the need for Congress to act. Crimes such as money laundering, racketeering, tax fraud. Any of these things that carry criminal charges are good, and end Donald's presidency. The biggest potential is obstruction, every time Trump has opened his mouth or tweeted anything that undermines the investigation or those involved it is part of obstruction. Calls for investigations to be stopped are obstruction. Firing Comey was openly acknowledged as being about putting a stop to the investigation.

It was 100% clear that Mueller was taking this into consideration when he announced that he was opening up a joint investigation with New York's attorney general. No matter what happens to Mueller everything he is working on is not going away. Pardons will not work against state prosecutions, for himself, his kids, Flynn, Manafort, Page, none of the people who have been indicted and plead guilty are going to be pardoned. A pardon for any key witness against Trump is another nail in obstruction charges.

Congress could have opened up an impeachment a long time ago, and had Obama tried to interfere in any way with the endless Benghazi investigations he would have been hammered for obstruction. Years worth of endless investigations, did he once interfere and say enough? Now leak after leak is giving us a very clear picture of what this is about. I don't have a clue how anyone can look at what charges have been brought that resulted in guilty pleas and plea bargains and not realize that there are there's there. Come on, Flynn cutting a deal to protect his son, from what? His son is guilty of illegal acts as much as Flynn is, if he weren't Flynn wouldn't have to cut a deal to protect him.

Before running on already having made up minds, wait to see what the hard evidence looks like. There is something wrong with protecting a guilty person when he's busted. Evidence can't be made up, and investigations that result in evidence and proof of wrong doing is what it is. Trump is such an idiot you have to admit that he deserves everything he's bringing on himself.

No man is above the law including the president. T... (show quote)

Had Obama tweeted a tenth of the crap Trump has, the GOP Congress would have passed legislation barring Presidents from using social media as a political tool, barred Government employees from accessing social media on Government devices and/or on Government time. In addition, they'd have set limits to Presidential golf weekends, set limits on the number of political rallies Presidents may do on the publics dime and enforced the rule that Government employees may not engage in campaigning.

Were it Obama in office doing the stuff Trump has.............there would have been a dozen articles of impeachment passed by the House in the last year. I'm sure it has never occurred to them, that one day - there may be another Democrat in the WH, with a Dem controlled Congress. Karma can be a bitch.

pafret Loc: Northeast

woodguru wrote:

No man is above the law including the president. Those who put him in office do not get to decide what he gets charged with and what he doesn't.

My guess is that Mueller has a dozen things that could have been used to trigger an impeachment in any past time in history. The danger is that the GOP has set the stage to disregard anything Mueller says. Much if not all will be considered classified, which leaves the GOP to say whatever they want knowing it's not the facts. Hopefully Mueller will make his disclosure and recommendations public so there can be no hidden room misrepresentations. My guess is that his results will be read in open chamber to congress, live on CNN.

Knowing that there is a very real chance that republicans could take a recommendation for impeachment and instead demand a long drawn out investigation of the investigation, Mueller is going to go for something that forces the need for Congress to act. Crimes such as money laundering, racketeering, tax fraud. Any of these things that carry criminal charges are good, and end Donald's presidency. The biggest potential is obstruction, every time Trump has opened his mouth or tweeted anything that undermines the investigation or those involved it is part of obstruction. Calls for investigations to be stopped are obstruction. Firing Comey was openly acknowledged as being about putting a stop to the investigation.

It was 100% clear that Mueller was taking this into consideration when he announced that he was opening up a joint investigation with New York's attorney general. No matter what happens to Mueller everything he is working on is not going away. Pardons will not work against state prosecutions, for himself, his kids, Flynn, Manafort, Page, none of the people who have been indicted and plead guilty are going to be pardoned. A pardon for any key witness against Trump is another nail in obstruction charges.

Congress could have opened up an impeachment a long time ago, and had Obama tried to interfere in any way with the endless Benghazi investigations he would have been hammered for obstruction. Years worth of endless investigations, did he once interfere and say enough? Now leak after leak is giving us a very clear picture of what this is about. I don't have a clue how anyone can look at what charges have been brought that resulted in guilty pleas and plea bargains and not realize that there are there's there. Come on, Flynn cutting a deal to protect his son, from what? His son is guilty of illegal acts as much as Flynn is, if he weren't Flynn wouldn't have to cut a deal to protect him.

Before running on already having made up minds, wait to see what the hard evidence looks like. There is something wrong with protecting a guilty person when he's busted. Evidence can't be made up, and investigations that result in evidence and proof of wrong doing is what it is. Trump is such an idiot you have to admit that he deserves everything he's bringing on himself.

No man is above the law including the president. T... (show quote)

The only thing Trump did wrong was not firing Comey on day two. He should have done that because of Comey's testimony that he didn't follow protocol in interviewing Clinton, by not putting her under oath and he listed many criminal acts then recommended no prosecution. It was not his job, he didn't do the job he was responsible for and then overstepped his authority in blocking prosecution,. Fireable offenses without any baloney about Russia probes.

The problem with waiting is that this becomes a never ending story, You will always find some evidence of criminal behavior somewhere and if you are permitted to examine everyone then you have a police dictatorship. No one elected Mueller and the kind of power he wields disrupts government. He is carefully avoiding one half of the potential criminal pool in an attempt to catch the half he doesn't like.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Trooper745 wrote:

So is Hillary, and so is Obama, and so is Bill Clinton, et. al. ...... what's your point, other than you whacko liberals give your liberal politicians a pass on any bad behavior, but expect conservative politicians to be saints. Your hypocrisy is odious.

Just remember Trump campaigned on the promise to clean up the swamp.

It is just the sort of actions by Trump to cover up his transgressions that the swamp is all about.
He is just is too open & boastful about it.

You my fine Trooper have bought into to much of rhetoric of the Political Politics

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

lpnmajor wrote:

Had Obama tweeted a tenth of the crap Trump has, t... (show quote)

No the ship of state will be righted one more time. Saving the back sides of Big Money & get blamed for all of the problems Big Money causes.

And the hue & cry from the supporters of the Right will go right on voting for the Republicans.
There is not much but death that will ever chance how they vote.
There to them is only one thing worse than death. That's is to be called a LIBERAL.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Bad Bob wrote:

What was Obama's sexual immoral conduct?

Homosexuality

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

snowbear37 wrote:

I guess Hillary (being a woman) is above the law. Obummer seemed to be above the law. Now, because it's Trump "No man is above the law".

Wonder whose side you're on??

No the Reflubs couldn't find anything.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Trooper745 wrote:

Homosexuality

Nothing but wacko bull shit.