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Mar 17, 2018 19:29:10   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
permafrost wrote:
It is obvious, that is the reason the orange man stumbles, needs assistance to rise. Why he is unable to control his baser impulses..

The lies and attempts to avoid all subjects Russian..

Why he held out as long as possible and then only limited Russian sanctions.

Why he overturned President Obama Russian sanctions..

The Russian problem is the problem he can not buy his way out of. Only if he can force congress to let it all slide will he get rid of this albatross..

Now that congress and basic Republicans got the tax gift they wanted and he promised, the GOP may find he is more of a problem to their goals then he is worth..

It the see he will cost them elections and hence lost power, they could decide to let him go and the law will run its course..




How likely is Trump to win the next election? Who are his potential rivals?
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Trump’s chances are about 2% to 5% of even being around in 2020. So it could be Mike Pence or even Paul Ryan who would be facing a couple of real good Republicans like John Kasich and Jeff Flake as well as several Democrats like Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden.

If Trump is still around and runs again it is a sure thing he will lose BIG TIME because millions of us Republicans will vote Democrat. Remember, some 48% of registered Republicans did NOT vote at all in 2016 because they had a worthless, unqualified candidate to look at. Then you had millions who did not stay at home but instead did write-ins as in Kasich, Bush, Rubio and Cruz.

These are the Republicans who WILL vote Democrat this time unless we have a REAL candidate to vote for. Get this…in 2016 there were around 96 million registered Republicans and a little over half of them bothered to vote and about 16 million of them did write-ins. If the GOP runs Trump again it will be disastrous because all those Republicans who did not vote will stay at home again as will many millions who DID vote in 2016…the turnout will be small, just those idiotic racists, hate mongers and the uneducated.
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You and the other progressive lefties have nothing but Russia on your minds, so much so it has inhibited any critical thinking on your parts...'tis indeed pathetic.

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Mar 17, 2018 19:38:21   #
goofball Loc: timbucktoo
 
permafrost wrote:
Why??? do any of those people have business financed by Russian banks???


Probably! What do you know about their businesses? That you can say anything about that?

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Mar 17, 2018 20:22:21   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
goofball wrote:
Probably! What do you know about their businesses? That you can say anything about that?




Do you think the Russian banks are giving trump reduced interest when he does their bidding???





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Mar 17, 2018 20:23:24   #
Nickolai
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I watch the “news” or scroll through my internet home page “news” feed I constantly find myself wondering when we got to a place where we now have two Americas that are so different. As I wrote last week, we have always had differences of opinion in American politics, sometimes strong differences of opinion. This is also true in other countries, but in many other countries people are not allowed to express opposing views as freely as we are in America. This is how our Founding Fathers wanted our Constitutional Republic to function. However, I do not believe the Founding Fathers had any idea how, irrational, dishonest and anti-American so many people in America would become!

Many of these irrational, dishonest and anti-American people are members of the “Washington Cesspool”. Others simply have a sense of personal entitlement .The things they all usually have in common are an obsession with self-interest, a total lack of personal integrity and an open hatred for President Trump and his supporters. .

Here are a few examples of people and organizations who are working to “shred” our Constitution and destroy America, either deliberately or as a result of their actions:
• Obama – During his first Presidential victory speech Obama loudly proclaimed, “we are going to fundamentally change America”. His open hatred for everything American and sense of personal entitlement is inarguable.
• Hillary – She just gave a speech before a large crowd in INDIA that expressed a depth of hatred for large portions of America that was extreme even for her. Another recurring theme of the speech was her irrational obsession with the belief that she actually won the election, should be (or is) President and is going to personally solve all of America’s problems.
• Bernie Sanders – He is the man who has never had an actual job in the private sector, and is an avowed Socialist (Communist), who preaches income redistribution. He now owns three homes. One of them is an expensive ($575,000) vacation home that they bought with cash.
• Maxine Waters – She has a long record of unethical (some criminal) activity but is still screaming “impeach Barney Fife”. She lives in a very expensive home in a private gated community that is not in her district.
• Antifa – This is supposed to be an anti-fascist organization but is actually a well-organized and heavily funded fascist organization. The Obama Administration gave it a special tax exempt status that allows it to engage in political activity.
• BLM – This is an openly disruptive anti-American organization that is well-organized and heavily funded. The Obama Administration gave it a special tax exempt status that allows it to engage in political activity.
• The Main Stream Media (MSM) – It is inarguable that it is obsessed with the destruction of the Trump Administration. Actual “NEWS” reporting ceased to exist anywhere in these organizations years ago.
• The “Woman’s March” organizers and speakers – The hatred for President Trump and his supporters that these people “spewed”, and continue to “spew”, is incredible.
• Adam Schiff – This man regularly leaves CLOSED DOOR committee hearings to leak “information” to the press. He is obsessed with being in front of TV cameras with his claims that he has proof of Trump Russia collusion, but he cannot produce it.
• Jeff Flake – He is a RINO Republican with an open hatred for President Trump and his supporters. Now he is publicly calling for someone to run against President Trump in his 2020 PRIMARY. A sitting president being challenged by someone in his own party in a primary election is something that simply does not happen.
• The Washington Cesspool - The Senate still has not approved over 100 of President Trump’s choices to be part of his Administration. Some actually have formal “holds” placed on their consideration by an “un-named” Senator for “unexplained” reasons. Compare that to Obama’s picks who were almost all instantly approved on the theory, as publicly stated by RINO McCain,” that the President deserves to have who he wants in his administration”. It is amazing that President Trump has accomplished what he has with so many key positions in his Administration not staffed.

When you add people from other countries to the forces from within who are working at shredding our Constitution and destroying America, we are facing a serious crisis in America. A crisis unlike anything we have experienced since the Civil War, which began in April 1861!
If the Left ever regains control of our Federal Government they will never give it up again! We cannot let that happen!
As I watch the “news” or scroll through my interne... (show quote)









The real problem is that the right has become so radical and far right since the fairness in broadcasting doctrine was thrown out by Reagans FCC in 1988 opening the door for a Rush Limbaugh and scores of Limbugh wannabees that they have become a fascist organization that has brought about a plutocracy of inequality and prejudice.

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Mar 17, 2018 20:25:46   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Nickolai wrote:
The real problem is that the right has become so radical and far right since the fairness in broadcasting doctrine was thrown out by Reagans FCC in 1988 opening the door for a Rush Limbaugh and scores of Limbugh wannabees that they have become a fascist organization that has brought about a plutocracy of inequality and prejudice.




So very true Nick, One of scores of thing Reagan did that tarnish our country to this day..

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Mar 17, 2018 20:28:20   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
I am going to make a bet with my trusty dog... You know full well every thing you posted is a lie..

You have follow the script from Fox and Breitbart which is years old.. You did not miss a letter..

but as I and a large number of OPP posters are true patriots and are very concerned with the state of our nation, I will propose some possable solutions.

However difficult and complicated..

First, we should somehow separate trump from the pressure of Russia..

When he had to accept financing from them for his business he should have been ineligible for any elected office..

As it is, they now have him by the short hairs.. and it is clearly destroying what little ability he had to hold a responsible job..

It may be too late now that McCabe has given his memos and notes to the investigation..

But if we could remove that enormous pressure from the orange man, perhaps his constant lies would be reduced and we could see more easily which to ignore. Pick and chose rather then ignore them all.

As far as undoing the few thing he has done, if we were able to forget all the personal slights and vile behavior and address these few items hope could be found.

Somehow reversing his tax gift and the tariffs, (which are not yet law) they may not be now that the Pennsylvania election is over, but we can not depend on that..

Given that he has no understanding of trade, it should be required that he places a dependable head in charge of any trade agreements or proposals..

This is very short but as needy as the nation will become in a few years, we should really work on that Russia problem..
I am going to make a bet with my trusty dog... Yo... (show quote)


Based on some of your posts it always amazes me when you refer to yourself as a "true patriot ".

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Mar 17, 2018 20:37:36   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
debeda wrote:
Based on some of your posts it always amazes me when you refer to yourself as a "true patriot ".


He thinks of himself and his Russkie comrades as true patriots. They have deluded themselves into thinking Trump has more Russkie friends than they have which makes them extremely jealous of trump.

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Mar 17, 2018 20:51:26   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
May I add:
Consider the facts that the media that protected Bill Clinton — a man who as president committed perjury to cover up his sexual affair with a young intern, an affair conducted just a few rooms away from his wife and daughter in the Oval Office — is now obsessed over a porn star’s story that she might have had a consensual affair with Trump more than a decade ago.

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Mar 17, 2018 22:20:16   #
debeda
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
He thinks of himself and his Russkie comrades as true patriots. They have deluded themselves into thinking Trump has more Russkie friends than they have which makes them extremely jealous of trump.


Lolololol you're probably right Poppa

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Mar 17, 2018 22:22:18   #
debeda
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
May I add:
Consider the facts that the media that protected Bill Clinton — a man who as president committed perjury to cover up his sexual affair with a young intern, an affair conducted just a few rooms away from his wife and daughter in the Oval Office — is now obsessed over a porn star’s story that she might have had a consensual affair with Trump more than a decade ago.


Yeah.... And the things that the fearless leaders and face of the left are doing RIGHT NOW are ignored or spun to seem to be "good" or "normal". Astounding izznit??

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Mar 17, 2018 22:44:47   #
goofball Loc: timbucktoo
 
permafrost wrote:
Do you think the Russian banks are giving trump reduced interest when he does their bidding???


You don't know anything about his business. All you know is what your spewing with the rest of you dummies want the rest of the Dummycrats want to hear!

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Mar 17, 2018 22:48:02   #
goofball Loc: timbucktoo
 
Nickolai wrote:
The real problem is that the right has become so radical and far right since the fairness in broadcasting doctrine was thrown out by Reagans FCC in 1988 opening the door for a Rush Limbaugh and scores of Limbugh wannabees that they have become a fascist organization that has brought about a plutocracy of inequality and prejudice.


F--kin liar! You wish you had the intelligence of Rush Limbaugh. You f--kin commie,!

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Mar 18, 2018 01:08:22   #
mlmpratte
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I watch the “news” or scroll through my internet home page “news” feed I constantly find myself wondering when we got to a place where we now have two Americas that are so different. As I wrote last week, we have always had differences of opinion in American politics, sometimes strong differences of opinion. This is also true in other countries, but in many other countries people are not allowed to express opposing views as freely as we are in America. This is how our Founding Fathers wanted our Constitutional Republic to function. However, I do not believe the Founding Fathers had any idea how, irrational, dishonest and anti-American so many people in America would become!

Many of these irrational, dishonest and anti-American people are members of the “Washington Cesspool”. Others simply have a sense of personal entitlement .The things they all usually have in common are an obsession with self-interest, a total lack of personal integrity and an open hatred for President Trump and his supporters. .

Here are a few examples of people and organizations who are working to “shred” our Constitution and destroy America, either deliberately or as a result of their actions:
• Obama – During his first Presidential victory speech Obama loudly proclaimed, “we are going to fundamentally change America”. His open hatred for everything American and sense of personal entitlement is inarguable.
• Hillary – She just gave a speech before a large crowd in INDIA that expressed a depth of hatred for large portions of America that was extreme even for her. Another recurring theme of the speech was her irrational obsession with the belief that she actually won the election, should be (or is) President and is going to personally solve all of America’s problems.
• Bernie Sanders – He is the man who has never had an actual job in the private sector, and is an avowed Socialist (Communist), who preaches income redistribution. He now owns three homes. One of them is an expensive ($575,000) vacation home that they bought with cash.
• Maxine Waters – She has a long record of unethical (some criminal) activity but is still screaming “impeach Barney Fife”. She lives in a very expensive home in a private gated community that is not in her district.
• Antifa – This is supposed to be an anti-fascist organization but is actually a well-organized and heavily funded fascist organization. The Obama Administration gave it a special tax exempt status that allows it to engage in political activity.
• BLM – This is an openly disruptive anti-American organization that is well-organized and heavily funded. The Obama Administration gave it a special tax exempt status that allows it to engage in political activity.
• The Main Stream Media (MSM) – It is inarguable that it is obsessed with the destruction of the Trump Administration. Actual “NEWS” reporting ceased to exist anywhere in these organizations years ago.
• The “Woman’s March” organizers and speakers – The hatred for President Trump and his supporters that these people “spewed”, and continue to “spew”, is incredible.
• Adam Schiff – This man regularly leaves CLOSED DOOR committee hearings to leak “information” to the press. He is obsessed with being in front of TV cameras with his claims that he has proof of Trump Russia collusion, but he cannot produce it.
• Jeff Flake – He is a RINO Republican with an open hatred for President Trump and his supporters. Now he is publicly calling for someone to run against President Trump in his 2020 PRIMARY. A sitting president being challenged by someone in his own party in a primary election is something that simply does not happen.
• The Washington Cesspool - The Senate still has not approved over 100 of President Trump’s choices to be part of his Administration. Some actually have formal “holds” placed on their consideration by an “un-named” Senator for “unexplained” reasons. Compare that to Obama’s picks who were almost all instantly approved on the theory, as publicly stated by RINO McCain,” that the President deserves to have who he wants in his administration”. It is amazing that President Trump has accomplished what he has with so many key positions in his Administration not staffed.

When you add people from other countries to the forces from within who are working at shredding our Constitution and destroying America, we are facing a serious crisis in America. A crisis unlike anything we have experienced since the Civil War, which began in April 1861!
If the Left ever regains control of our Federal Government they will never give it up again! We cannot let that happen!
As I watch the “news” or scroll through my interne... (show quote)


I couldn’t agree more with what and whom you’ve named and written, but would add that there could be truth to the theory that underneath all this anti American ideology is a Globalist agenda.

With the most light cursory digging and researching, it’s readily apparent that this is a major underpinning of the hatred and the need to destroy this great nation.

There’s more of a darker agenda underneath Globalism, but I leave that for each individual to uncover. What I cannot fathom though is the why, and why the hatred? Simple corruption and greed does not provide an answer.

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Mar 18, 2018 01:17:58   #
EconomistDon
 
permafrost wrote:
I am going to make a bet with my trusty dog... You know full well every thing you posted is a lie..

You have follow the script from Fox and Breitbart which is years old.. You did not miss a letter..

but as I and a large number of OPP posters are true patriots and are very concerned with the state of our nation, I will propose some possable solutions.

However difficult and complicated..

First, we should somehow separate trump from the pressure of Russia..

When he had to accept financing from them for his business he should have been ineligible for any elected office..

As it is, they now have him by the short hairs.. and it is clearly destroying what little ability he had to hold a responsible job..

It may be too late now that McCabe has given his memos and notes to the investigation..

But if we could remove that enormous pressure from the orange man, perhaps his constant lies would be reduced and we could see more easily which to ignore. Pick and chose rather then ignore them all.

As far as undoing the few thing he has done, if we were able to forget all the personal slights and vile behavior and address these few items hope could be found.

Somehow reversing his tax gift and the tariffs, (which are not yet law) they may not be now that the Pennsylvania election is over, but we can not depend on that..

Given that he has no understanding of trade, it should be required that he places a dependable head in charge of any trade agreements or proposals..

This is very short but as needy as the nation will become in a few years, we should really work on that Russia problem..
I am going to make a bet with my trusty dog... Yo... (show quote)


There is one glaring problem with your analysis, frosty. Trump had NOTHING to do with Russia before the election. There was NO COLLUSION. Haven't you been paying attention? But NOW Trump must have a great deal of attention to Russia, because they are the second most powerful nation on earth. Anyone who thinks that Trump should now be ignoring or fighting with Russia is a total idiot. We must be cozy with the second most powerful nation on earth. Reagan got it right and Trump is getting it right. Only low-intelligence Democrats don't understand this.

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Mar 18, 2018 06:02:50   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
EconomistDon wrote:
There is one glaring problem with your analysis, frosty. Trump had NOTHING to do with Russia before the election. There was NO COLLUSION. Haven't you been paying attention? But NOW Trump must have a great deal of attention to Russia, because they are the second most powerful nation on earth. Anyone who thinks that Trump should now be ignoring or fighting with Russia is a total idiot. We must be cozy with the second most powerful nation on earth. Reagan got it right and Trump is getting it right. Only low-intelligence Democrats don't understand this.
There is one glaring problem with your analysis, f... (show quote)


Sure Don the troglodyte

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