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Mar 17, 2018 08:41:24   #
Richard Rowland
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Read the full article. The point the author made was at first these restrictions will be ignored by gun owners and not enforced by authorities, ( as they are RIGHT NOW in several states, Connecticut being one example,) but, should the left gain enough political power to enforce these laws they will be able to because they have criminalized gun ownership, and thus are "following the law". The author rightly pointed out the goal would then be to pick gun owners off one by one, not some huge jack-booted drive to confiscate ALL guns at once. Too many people trust the left, and think they aren't devious enough to implement an agenda like this, and will stand by and let them criminalize their Second Amendment rights. And after the Second Amendment rights are gone, the rest will be fair game. I don't doubt that there are many who would literally fight to preserve their rights, but the place to start is to not let them be undermined in the first place.
Read the full article. The point the author made w... (show quote)


If the tactic of picking folks off one-by-one is implemented, some folks would obviously be grabbed unexpectedly, however, unless a total blackout of the means for spreading information took place, it wouldn't be long before everyone would know what's comin' down.

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Mar 17, 2018 09:26:20   #
Liberty Tree
 
Kevyn wrote:
You are not the sharpest pencil in the box are you? You and a handful of others post nonsense like this and people take notice. Battles these days are fought more with data than bullets. In some NSA office there is a list of people who post this crackpot stuff, it has likely been crosschecked against other lists of Birchers, klansmen, neo Nazis, oathkeepers and other assorted nutters. And then crosschecked again against web searches and credit card purchases. It is not all that difficult to figure out who frequented conspiracy websites, posts traitorous threats, stockpiles guns and ammo and belongs to groups of like minded nuts. When the time comes you will be picked up in a traffic stop and cuffed and stuffed before you even think of laying a hand on your stockpile. Then your property will be searched with a warrant your arsenal confiscated and destroyed and you will be packed off to a long prison sentence. In the case of any insurrection the vast majority of the blowhard preppers will be taken before they realize what hit them. Don’t worry, they have pretty good food at those fema camps.
You are not the sharpest pencil in the box are you... (show quote)


You are not even in the box.

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Mar 17, 2018 09:48:40   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bylm1 wrote:
Your attitude should really point up to everyone how necessary it is to defend the Constitution and the second amendment. We can see there are those who love to be governed and told that the G is in charge and will try to do anything to take guns away to make it easier for them. There are millions of people lying in graves in Germany, Russia, eastern Europe, who, if they could talk, would tell you how nuts your philosophy is. If you type thinking doesn't wake sensible people up to the dangers that lie ahead, I'm not sure what will.
Your attitude should really point up to everyone h... (show quote)



I will tell you in no uncertain terms..

That while you love that constitution loving killer...

I would in a flash shoot down that nut case who is expressing his constitutional rights by killing school kids at their desks..

I would not consider his right to have an assault style gun for a second... I would shoot him dead.. right to own that assault style gun be damned...

The right to life of all the kids and all the party goers i regard far more important that the right to have an "assault style gun" in the hands of a crazy person..

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Mar 17, 2018 10:02:01   #
debeda
 
proud republican wrote:
That is why we Republicans cant be lazy when midterms come we need to go out and VOTE or if Democrats win midterms we will lose everything House Senate and our President!!!!And then they CHEKA/KGB also know DNC will come and take our guns from us!!!!


Agreed. We have to vote and exercise our civil rights.

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Mar 17, 2018 11:45:21   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh it's much easier than that. Start with a 10K fine per semi auto and 10 years in jail minimum. That's it. That's all you need. The guns will come pouring in and those still in circulation will eventually be weeded out--even if they are pried from their cold dead hands...


I don't think so, first I will give them all my ammo, then they can have the gun. Yes I know I will die before I run out of ammo, but some of them will too. If every America is like me there will not be enough of them to succeed. You commie will not win.

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Mar 17, 2018 11:48:50   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
permafrost wrote:
I will tell you in no uncertain terms..

That while you love that constitution loving killer...

I would in a flash shoot down that nut case who is expressing his constitutional rights by killing school kids at their desks..

I would not consider his right to have an assault style gun for a second... I would shoot him dead.. right to own that assault style gun be damned...

The right to life of all the kids and all the party goers i regard far more important that the right to have an "assault style gun" in the hands of a crazy person..
I will tell you in no uncertain terms.. br br Th... (show quote)


I guess you do not believe in "equal Justice under the law". The Creep is innocent until proved guilty. Then I say shoot him.

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Mar 17, 2018 12:47:25   #
Ricktloml
 
roy wrote:
What you on the right need to understand is we on the left have as many or more guns as you on the right.We aint going to let nobody take our guns,and we want let anybody take your guns.Do i think some new laws need to be put in place yes i do any person that comits a crime with a gun,whether it be robbey,murder and a vast of others,should be put to death.Putting them in prison does no good ,because they are took care of so good,they dont really care if their in prison.At the least they should be made do hard labor.
What you on the right need to understand is we on ... (show quote)


So, if those on the left have as many guns as those on the right, and they aren't going to let anyone take their guns, what is the purpose of criminalizing gun ownership by law-abiding citizens? Murder, robbery, rape, most crimes committed with the use of a firearm already have stiffer sentences . New laws that target law-abiding gun owners aren't going to make criminals obey the law. When the goal is to make gun ownership illegal for non criminals, regardless of the assurances of those demanding the laws, the real goal is gun confisxation, and those on the right KNOW it

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Mar 17, 2018 13:40:15   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
eden wrote:
Some perspective from the middle:

America is awash in guns to the tune of hundreds of millions, so the Gun Ban train already left the station. Many of these guns are unregistered and untraceable so from a practical standpoint confiscating all guns would be impossible, and those who scaremonger about this are being illogical and irresponsible.
To those who join the “Do Something” chorus every time there is a mass shooting, you need to understand that a lot of what gets posted here by gun owners is true. Millions of responsible Americans own guns of all kinds, including so called Assault Rifles and never make the headlines. To someone who doesn’t like guns it may be hard to understand that there are a lot of people who do. Hard to dig down into that but the smell of gun oil and cordite and bursting water jugs downrange is a great recreation for some. The argument about
the lethality of different types of firearms is driven mostly by media misinformation and ignorance. You don’t hear people advocating banning shotguns too much but a semi-automatic 12 Guage loaded with Double Ought Bucks could put the equivalent of forty five .33 caliber slugs in the air in under five seconds.
In another comparison a Mini 14 with a wooden stock and a short round clip looks like a conventional hunting rifle but with the loading of a 30 round clip and its semi-automatic rate of fire will approximate the performance of a so-called Ugly Assault Rifle.
So to address the recurring tragedy of mass shootings .....mentally unbalanced people carry these out by gaining access to firearms. As a matter of priority you could reasonably insist that children’s lives should be put ahead of citizens gun rights but banning guns either by category or en masse would not prevent another mass shooting. Too many guns available for enough money any time regardless of laws. It sounds horrible but perhaps the best we can do is reduce the frequency of such shootings by working across the great divide and addressing background checks somehow administered by non governmental agencies like Gun Clubs. Gun clubs are run by responsible gun owners generally and if peer approval was necessary to purchase that could be a starting place since there is such widespread (and justifiable) distrust in government, especially Federal.
To my Liberal friends; if I sound like a gun nut, sorry but if we just keep picking up shit and throwing it without thinking and listening, then it just deepens the divide and as long as there is no common ground there are people including children who are alive now who will die a horrible near future death because we failed them.
To my Conservative friends; see above. A little less of the “Liberals are stupid” meme would be helpful. If you just parrot the paranoia about confiscation you sound weak and helpless and if we are all paralyzed by culture war inertia then again we have failed them that need us most.
Some perspective from the middle: br br America i... (show quote)



Very sensible and well-thought out post, Eden. I wish more people would take these items under advisement and abandon the thoughtless, spontaneous spouting off that we hear so much of.

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Mar 17, 2018 13:53:17   #
Richard Rowland
 
permafrost wrote:
I will tell you in no uncertain terms..

That while you love that constitution loving killer...

I would in a flash shoot down that nut case who is expressing his constitutional rights by killing school kids at their desks..

I would not consider his right to have an assault style gun for a second... I would shoot him dead.. right to own that assault style gun be damned...

The right to life of all the kids and all the party goers i regard far more important that the right to have an "assault style gun" in the hands of a crazy person..
I will tell you in no uncertain terms.. br br Th... (show quote)


The problem with that reasoning: After the AR-15 what's next?

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Mar 17, 2018 14:55:19   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
You are not the sharpest pencil in the box are you? You and a handful of others post nonsense like this and people take notice. Battles these days are fought more with data than bullets. In some NSA office there is a list of people who post this crackpot stuff, it has likely been crosschecked against other lists of Birchers, klansmen, neo Nazis, oathkeepers and other assorted nutters. And then crosschecked again against web searches and credit card purchases. It is not all that difficult to figure out who frequented conspiracy websites, posts traitorous threats, stockpiles guns and ammo and belongs to groups of like minded nuts. When the time comes you will be picked up in a traffic stop and cuffed and stuffed before you even think of laying a hand on your stockpile. Then your property will be searched with a warrant your arsenal confiscated and destroyed and you will be packed off to a long prison sentence. In the case of any insurrection the vast majority of the blowhard preppers will be taken before they realize what hit them. Don’t worry, they have pretty good food at those fema camps.
You are not the sharpest pencil in the box are you... (show quote)


Spoken like a good little Nazi..

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Mar 17, 2018 14:59:27   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
I will tell you in no uncertain terms..

That while you love that constitution loving killer...

I would in a flash shoot down that nut case who is expressing his constitutional rights by killing school kids at their desks..

I would not consider his right to have an assault style gun for a second... I would shoot him dead.. right to own that assault style gun be damned...

The right to life of all the kids and all the party goers i regard far more important that the right to have an "assault style gun" in the hands of a crazy person..
I will tell you in no uncertain terms.. br br Th... (show quote)


The latest school shooter, 'Cruz' by all indicators, did not have the right to own even a BB gun..

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Mar 17, 2018 15:11:21   #
eden
 
bylm1 wrote:
Very sensible and well-thought out post, Eden. I wish more people would take these items under advisement and abandon the thoughtless, spontaneous spouting off that we hear so much of.



Thank you. Reason does not attract notice it seems, only hysteria and abuse.

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Mar 17, 2018 16:14:56   #
malachi
 
What happens after governments disarm citizens:

l9ll TURKEY murdered l.5 million Armenians
l929 RUSSIA " 20 " Russians
l935 CHINA " 20 " Chinese
l938 GERMANY " l6 " Jews
l956 CAMBODIA " 1 " Educated People
l964 GUATEMALA " l00,000 Mayan Indians
l970 UGANDA " 300,000 Christians

(info copied from one of the usual commenters)

Spread the word, wake people up !!!!!!!

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Mar 17, 2018 16:33:46   #
king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.
 
eden wrote:
I think this scenario is a fable and lacks rational thinking. I remember this rhetoric being peddled by the hysterical right when Obama took office and gun sales surged.( That’s why the arms industry prefers a Liberal in office because they make more money.)
And did Obama and the Liberals move on everybody’s guns? No, not even when they had the Presidency and both houses. The problem with paranoia is that the worst outcome imagined never comes true.


The Obama administration certainly DID move on guns of all calibers and the 2d. amendment. If not for our Supreme Court Obama would've succeeded. As it were the administration did by way of EPA policing close our lead production facilities followed by each police agency purchasing un-conscionable amounts of ammo. Regardless of the caliber. Thru Social Security & ACA, the physical confiscation DID take shape.

You flippantly claim "FABLE lacking RATIONAL THINKING" recalling it as "RHETORIC BEING PEDDLED"! Shame on you for lacking the character to seek education on an AMERICAN issue such as the Second Amendment.

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Mar 17, 2018 17:01:09   #
Richard Rowland
 
king hall wrote:
The Obama administration certainly DID move on guns of all calibers and the 2d. amendment. If not for our Supreme Court Obama would've succeeded. As it were the administration did by way of EPA policing close our lead production facilities followed by each police agency purchasing un-conscionable amounts of ammo. Regardless of the caliber. Thru Social Security & ACA, the physical confiscation DID take shape.

You flippantly claim "FABLE lacking RATIONAL THINKING" recalling it as "RHETORIC BEING PEDDLED"! Shame on you for lacking the character to seek education on an AMERICAN issue such as the Second Amendment.
The Obama administration certainly DID move on gun... (show quote)


Well said!

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