Marsinah

Do you suppose Jesus may very well judge us on the amount of dirt we get on us, throughout our life experiences? That pretty much does in my favorite saying about "Wow, what a ride!"

I met a man, about a year ago, who wanted to know what I thought about sin. I answered with a question: "Who is it that tells you if something is a sin or not?" And he said, "Well, Jesus, I guess." So I said, "That's handy; the person who is going to judge you is also the person who tells you what is a sin or not".

Marsinah

You tell us.

Sing has a point here, ack. You cannot deny that. npp is another perfect example.

Singularity

It may not be just a lack of hope, as much as an honest personal inventory and aknowlegement of a personal lack of courage or disinclination to endure massive chronic pain and disability. Or to incur the obvious expensive need for physical human attendants for everyday mundane needs, or inflict that perceived consuming duty upon other loved ones.

Marsinah

My father refused to endure chemotherapy a second time, but I don't think that exactly qualifies as euthanasia. He could have been helped, maybe, but would rather end his life.

I prefer not to be resuscitated, myself. Nor do I wish to live in a vegetative state for any length of time. That is something different, but still to be looked into.

Marsinah

I think, Sing, that some Christians are feeling something of a religious insecurity lately. They are lashing out at both reason and alien religion. Do you remember my post, as KiraSeer, that Christianity is the most intolerant and childish of religions? And that is because of their arrogance, bias and fears. I'll explain tomorrow, gotta go now. (That should make the Christians and neo-conservatives happy.)

Singularity

Um, no.

I do not believe any Jesus judging will occur.

But I am judgemental enough, myself, my own captive audience and most frequent petitioner/plaintiff!

Very self involved.

See why I enjoy/need a forum?

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Euthanasia is a slippery slope as to who will decide who will die .

I've read they are doing it in some places in Europe especially with the mental ILL or how bout folks with dementia it's one thing to take your own life and quite another to take another .

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Some "unhappy, let alone angry, religious people provide more persuasive arguments for atheism and secularism than do all the arguments of atheists." [quote/Dennis Prager]

A personal note: I do not find NPP to be an angry religious person as you implied above, but simply a devout believer in his Faith.

PeterS

That which Hawkins was talking about is not what you are referencing now. Stay on topic--the only slippery slope is the one you are standing on....

Singularity

I'm glad humankind has finally progressed to law based on secular authority and developed intelligently and thoughtfully for the good of humankind instead of the whims and emotional hangups of pampered deities and their acolytes.

Sin is a peculiarly religious label for what is mistaken or harmful human behavior as well as special religiously significant acts or attitudes that specifically offend the Deity's sense of personal integrity.

Apparently the judeochristian omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent God is very existentially sensitive and emotionally insecure, perhaps explaining its tendency to be exquisitely controlling to the degree it requires humen to permanently disfigure their genitals in its honor and to be scrupulously obsessive/compulsive in searching their very thoughts and heart felt motives and certainly any action for any suggestion of sin, which it mostly refers to as "filthiness." Oh, and to obey civil authorities, whoever they are, whatever they say, it was GOD who put them in charge for reasons that are perfectly morally sufficient for GOD. Mysterious ways, bye and bye....

As far as universal moral principals the text box most Christians call Ten Commandments are heavily weighted (70%) to formal worship preferences of the diety and to thoughtcrime (covetousness, attitude towards parents.)

So, what's left? How much do you need an ancient text to demonstrate that killing, stealing and lying are wrong?

Of those who don't listen to and honor their parents and culture, some may already understand that perhaps theirs don't deserve such, so I can't accept that as universally moral. Some parents should be prevented contact with other human beings, including their own children on truly moral principles.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

"Of course, there are dangers in religious freedom and freedom of opinion. But to deny these rights is worse than dangerous, it is absolutely fatal to liberty. The external threat to liberty should not drive us into suppressing liberty at home. Those who want the government to regulate matters of the mind and spirit are like men who are so afraid of being murdered that they commit suicide to avoid assassination."---Harry S. Truman

Singularity

and democracy!!!???

Go and come again in ease and peace!

Singularity

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

Thank you. There is one truth and that is our Lord Jesus Christ and there is the Bible that proclaims this. quote=mwdegutis]I'll be perfectly and succinctly blunt...you are full of shit! Truth HAS been written down...it's called the Bible. Truth has been spoken, truth is a person...His name is Jesus Christ,

I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.[/quote]

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

Let's not forget that whenever she is called out, she reverts to vulgar worded name calling. How can a person first say that everyone has a right to their opinion ? But as soon as someone disagrees with her opinion they are condemned. Have known people that are so wrapped in what they perceive to be reality that they become their own Gods. If you will notice, every time she posts this is the outcome. Why do we even reply ? We hope for understanding and perhaps civil discussion. We will not get this from a person that believes they have already evolved, "Ha, Ha" into the next enlightened stage of humankind. And a person that from all observations does not believe in anything other than themselves.