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Can mental health policy solve the problem of mass shootings?
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Feb 20, 2018 06:26:28   #
badbob85037
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Just look at the money going to these doctors on mental health that prescribe these poisons from the ones producing them." - badbob85037

Yep; A financial partnership has been going on for way too long.


Not just the doctors but I have never heard any congressman put 2 and 2 together. They blame steel or stand up saying 'we have to find out why this is happening'. When they know damn well what's happening. The ones that line their pockets are no better than the one pulling the trigger. For once I would like to see the court give these killers as much compassion as they gave their victims

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Feb 20, 2018 11:32:46   #
Abel
 
The VAST majority of politicians are much like the plains of western Kansas: All Wind and No Rain! But they have no trouble fleecing the sheeple.

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Feb 20, 2018 23:22:53   #
DaWg44
 
rebob14 wrote:
I think that the incidence of “mental illness” has been relatively constant over time. What is distinctively different is the destruction of our civil society. Say what you will about values, there used to be a generally agreed upon standard for public behavior which relegated even the outliers of society to levels of behavior that did not include murdering large numbers of their fellow citizens. A generation after the “If it feels good, do it” decade, that standard no longer applies. Trying to invest our mental health in the Administrative State would be the final nail in the coffin of the civil society. You will never pass enough laws to replace what families used to provide, until the feds destroyed them. There is one well known constant in this debate, mass shooters are fundamentally cowards and will not be so willing to murder innocents if they’re protected. If school access is strictly controlled and every open entrance staffed with an armed guard, the vast majority of these killings will stop. This, of course, is only a band aid.......what is really required is a return to moral virtue, and that can only be provided by intact families not subject to political manipulation by their so-called “leaders”.
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I agree w/ you take on mental illness, constant over time until doctors started prescribing all kinds of drugs to combat lack of parental discipline. I have had the agony of two of our sons’s cousins being put on Ritalin, when all they really needed was parents able to say “No” and enforce it. They both became addicted to having to have their pills so when they reached puberty, were taken off them, they went bonkers. Both ended up drug addicts, both were in & out of prison, & both died of overdoses. Both were extremely violent, even to their own parents.

When mental institutions were closed, GA had the largest in this country, the facility still has the largest kitchen in this country, probably the world. When they closed the institution, they literally opened the gates & let the patients out in the small town of Milledgville. It was a catastrophe for the town & the patients. For years there was a man who thought he was a dog & would pee on light poles & fire hydrants, there may be figures on how many patients died in the woods, got killed walking out in front of cars, but they would probably be hard to find.

I think gun ownership/1,000 has gone down over time from the 50’s when I grew up. I can’t remember anyone who did not have guns when I was growing up, gun racks were in p/u trucks in the parking lot when I was in high school, I had two lever action rifles in my truck, never locked the doors. No matter how mad we got at each other, we settled our differences w/ our fists. If you got in a fight at school, the coach would make you fight in boxing gloves until both of you were worn completely out. The gloves had so damn much padding in them there was no way you were going to hurt each other. If you did not keep swinging as long as you could stand up he would pop you on your butt w/ the sole of a size 15 tennis shoe / holes drilled in it. It would raise a blister wherever a hole hit. Most of us got the message, got to be friends, some of us ended up fighting together, determined to keep each other alive, some of us made it to the coach’s funeral.

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Feb 21, 2018 10:12:20   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
DaWg44 wrote:
I agree w/ you take on mental illness, constant over time until doctors started prescribing all kinds of drugs to combat lack of parental discipline. I have had the agony of two of our sons’s cousins being put on Ritalin, when all they really needed was parents able to say “No” and enforce it. They both became addicted to having to have their pills so when they reached puberty, were taken off them, they went bonkers. Both ended up drug addicts, both were in & out of prison, & both died of overdoses. Both were extremely violent, even to their own parents.

When mental institutions were closed, GA had the largest in this country, the facility still has the largest kitchen in this country, probably the world. When they closed the institution, they literally opened the gates & let the patients out in the small town of Milledgville. It was a catastrophe for the town & the patients. For years there was a man who thought he was a dog & would pee on light poles & fire hydrants, there may be figures on how many patients died in the woods, got killed walking out in front of cars, but they would probably be hard to find.

I think gun ownership/1,000 has gone down over time from the 50’s when I grew up. I can’t remember anyone who did not have guns when I was growing up, gun racks were in p/u trucks in the parking lot when I was in high school, I had two lever action rifles in my truck, never locked the doors. No matter how mad we got at each other, we settled our differences w/ our fists. If you got in a fight at school, the coach would make you fight in boxing gloves until both of you were worn completely out. The gloves had so damn much padding in them there was no way you were going to hurt each other. If you did not keep swinging as long as you could stand up he would pop you on your butt w/ the sole of a size 15 tennis shoe / holes drilled in it. It would raise a blister wherever a hole hit. Most of us got the message, got to be friends, some of us ended up fighting together, determined to keep each other alive, some of us made it to the coach’s funeral.
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Thanks for taking the time to give your experiences.
Prescription drugs used on children is a major factor in undisciplined and violent children. The establishments "remedy" is the problem.

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