Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

According to thehill.com:

"A Russian-linked Twitter bot that tweeted in support of leaving the U.S. was one of those shut down by Twitter last November, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune, reporting testimony the company provided to Congress."

Also, "The sponsor of the referendum, Louis Marinelli, dropped last year’s effort after admitting he was living in Russia at the time".

Why would the Russians care about a California secession initiative? Do they 'feel our pain'? Whatever the motive, Californians are 'working on it':

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/374092-california-secession-supporters-file-new-initiative

And, of course, it's all Trump's fault:

"Secession supporters, who say the Trump administration is specifically targeting their state, will begin gathering signatures to qualify a ballot question in 2020".

Bye!

Kevyn

It is a shame that we don’t have any leadership in the White House to put an end to this nonsense. If we did the NSA would be zeroing out the accounts of a bunch of Russian oligarchs shutting off power to their Dachas and night clubs and putting travel sanctions on them until Putan stops this nonsense or one of the newly broke Russian mobsters who enable him slits his throat.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Yeah.. We didn't have Russians before Trump, did we?

son of witless

I wonder who the Russians are funding right now, the Left or the Right ? I bet it is their fellow Communists.

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

Perhaps Russia believes that they have an opportunity to have a "Communist" state within this country. However, I believe that California should NOT be allowed to secede. They should be forced to conform to the laws and regulations of the United States. It is not the whole state that wants to secede, but the large "progressive" cities on the coast. They are happy to drag the rest of the state down with them. I think it is better to allow the state to become two separate states. To allow large cities to dictate to the rest of a state as large as California (or even New York) has never been what liberals would call "fair". Those that do not "accept" the rules and regulations governing this country should be required to leave this country and find one that they can identify with. As the saying goes..."Love It Or Leave It".

pafret Loc: Northeast

The question of the State's rights and ability to secede from the Union was decided by the Civil war. What is required now is a declaration of war by Congress and executive orders mobilizing the National Guard, of as many states as are needed. to occupy California and place the state under martial law. The military can round up every alien in the state and lock up any felons plus deport the rest. The Governor and the State Legislature can all be arrested and tried for treason. The Congress can then decide the future make up of the State and divide it in a manner that will prevent California from ever having such enormous clout in the future.

It is past time to end the silliness that emanates from the cesspool cities of the west coast. They are only the tail, not the dog.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

I like how you think but still keep going back to the thought of them seceding and drowning in their own socialism much like Venezuela is now. Once it's out of their system, maybe they can apply to rejoin the union.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Nope. They be brand spanking new.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Damn that Trump

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

California. This post is about California. Why are you ranting about some Russian Dacha?

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Maybe he's a Russian bot stuck on 'auto-stupid'.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

I tend to disagree. First, there was nothing 'civil' about that awful war. It was an invasion of a group of sovereign States by another group of sovereign States. The only question 'settled' by that war was who was the stronger and more aggressive. The Confederate States had every right to up stakes and go home any time they felt like and the exercise of that right was denied them by force of arms. That 'decided' nothing.


Hold that thought! Declare war? Seriously? On what pretext? Besides their obviously dubious choices in elected representatives, what is their imminent threat to these United States? To raise an army of occupation and declare a sovereign State under martial law certainly harks back to the War of Northern Aggression. Were no lessons learned from that spectacle?


Illegal aliens. Many residents of California are there legally and legitimately. It's the illegal ones that should be herded back across the border.


Again, Californians' choices of representatives is suspect to be sure, but to say that the State Legislature has been levying War against these United States, or adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort is quite a stretch. I doubt it can be stretched that far.


Even the Union occupation forces did not attempt to redraw State borders or dictate to the people their national makeup. That is most assuredly a 'bridge too far'.


Yes! I couldn't agree more! Let them go their own way and graciously accept them back into out benevolent Union when they've well and truly learned their lesson! Let them spend the next ten or twenty years totally screwing themselves then see if they're still so gung-ho on socialism. Just ask any Venezuelan what he/she would do if there was a choice of stay there or come to the US and see how quick they would move.

I recommend leaving California to its own devices for a while and letting this lunacy play out, sans the input of 'other peoples' money'.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Certainly 'auto-stupid'.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Going their way is not an option. Whether you accept the legitimacy of the Civil war or not, the issue has been decided and in this case "might makes right". No State now has the right to leave the Union and those laws the Federal Government is empowered by the Constitution to make, cannot be abrogated by the States. A State that refuses to comply is in rebellion and is inviting Martial law. The declaration of war is a legal nicety and obviously I meant 'illegal' aliens, not those who are on visa visits or legal alien residents

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

OK, so you fix it, because the rest of us are sick of it. And please hurry because if they won't leave there might just arise a 'movement' to kick them out, Constitutional or not. And by the way, you're right, there is no constitutional mechanism for secession. I consider that one of several constitutional oversights, or failings, depending on your approach. That's what the amendment process is designed to fix.