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Anti-abortion people are not pro-life, just--exclusively--anti-abortion
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Feb 16, 2018 12:48:08   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
No, it's about low-wage jobs!


Puh-leeze! There is no such thing as a 'low-wage' job in these United States. There are people in this world who manage to live on less than $1 a day, and you say there are people who work 3 jobs in these United States and can't afford a meal? Even at minimum wage, that's more than $60 a day. You call that 'low wage'?

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Feb 16, 2018 13:04:25   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Puh-leeze! There is no such thing as a 'low-wage' job in these United States. There are people in this world who manage to live on less than $1 a day, and you say there are people who work 3 jobs in these United States and can't afford a meal? Even at minimum wage, that's more than $60 a day. You call that 'low wage'?


Depends on where you live. When I lived in California, it was hard to pay rent, utilities and groceries on a decent salary!

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Feb 16, 2018 13:13:54   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Depends on where you live. When I lived in California, it was hard to pay rent, utilities and groceries on a decent salary!


Because 'California'! That's why I don't live in that socialist shit-hole. Where I live, minimum wage pays the rent and leaves enough for the vittles. What kind of fool moves to a place like California and complains about the cost of living? C'mon, Man!

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Feb 16, 2018 16:04:15   #
bahmer
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Because 'California'! That's why I don't live in that socialist shit-hole. Where I live, minimum wage pays the rent and leaves enough for the vittles. What kind of fool moves to a place like California and complains about the cost of living? C'mon, Man!


Maybe he should move to Hawaii and then he can really complain.

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Feb 16, 2018 17:51:09   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Because 'California'! That's why I don't live in that socialist shit-hole. Where I live, minimum wage pays the rent and leaves enough for the vittles. What kind of fool moves to a place like California and complains about the cost of living? C'mon, Man!


I was born and raised in Southern California. Things were different back then! Now I live in Texas. I pay rent and my roommate cooks. He's a native Texan, and a former Marine. Life is good!

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Feb 16, 2018 18:07:56   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
I was born and raised in Southern California. Things were different back then! Now I live in Texas. I pay rent and my roommate cooks. He's a native Texan, and a former Marine. Life is good!


California was the place to be 40, 50 years ago. Remember the songs? 'California Dreamin', 'California girls', 'Surfin' USA', 'San Fransisco', those were the days. Shame about how it changed.

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Feb 16, 2018 21:11:54   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
California was the place to be 40, 50 years ago. Remember the songs? 'California Dreamin', 'California girls', 'Surfin' USA', 'San Fransisco', those were the days. Shame about how it changed.


True that! Nothing beats a summer at the beach!

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Feb 16, 2018 21:13:15   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
Maybe he should move to Hawaii and then he can really complain.


I'm a she. And no thanks, they really don't like haoles (white people) much.

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Feb 16, 2018 21:32:49   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
I'm a she. And no thanks, they really don't like haoles (white people) much.


They don't like being 'invaded'. Sound familiar?

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Feb 16, 2018 21:36:43   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
They don't like being 'invaded'. Sound familiar?


Neither did the Native Americans. The difference being that DACA recipients aren't out to kill us! I live in Texas, which was Mexican land for a very long time, as were parts of California, Arizona and New Mexico.

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Feb 16, 2018 21:39:26   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Puh-leeze! There is no such thing as a 'low-wage' job in these United States. There are people in this world who manage to live on less than $1 a day, and you say there are people who work 3 jobs in these United States and can't afford a meal? Even at minimum wage, that's more than $60 a day. You call that 'low wage'?


Most minimum wage jobs aren't full-time any more, so employers don't have to pay for health insurance.

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Feb 16, 2018 21:51:56   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Neither did the Native Americans. The difference being that DACA recipients aren't out to kill us! I live in Texas, which was Mexican land for a very long time, as were parts of California, Arizona and New Mexico.


Yes, it was Mexican land for a very long time. Also, it hasn't been Mexican land since 1836, that's also a very long time. I think it's been long enough to start asking to see passports and visas at the border, wouldn't you say?

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Feb 16, 2018 21:56:57   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Yes, it was Mexican land for a very long time. Also, it hasn't been Mexican land since 1836, that's also a very long time. I think it's been long enough to start asking to see passports and visas at the border, wouldn't you say?


Dont see why not, we have to show ours when crossing the border!

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May 6, 2018 22:46:27   #
Geo
 
rumitoid wrote:
If any of them vote Republican, they cannot be pro-life. Republicans and their followers want to convince you those on Welfare are free-loaders and bottom-feeders (the Reagan "big-bucks" and Welfare queens"). Like poverty and bad economic circumstances never existed before the "Great American teat" served up by Democrats, their "base" for free handouts to do drugs all day and eat Twinkies. Helping the poor, elderly, handicapped, and disadvantaged is an obligation of any decent government. It needs to come as a basic cost of good government, not as some questionable "handout" that can be cut or severely downsized. More important than the Military Budget. Yet these so-called "pro-lifers" consistently vote to reduce government care for "the least of these." And they agree with the death penalty. What? And with drone-warfare. What? Life does not really matter to most of them; it is their beliefs that take precedent. If abortion was not legal in America, every sane and religious person would vote Democrat.
If any of them vote Republican, they cannot be pro... (show quote)


I agree with you, and so does a catholic nun. This is another theory I agree with is that everything the GOP does is to promote a large, poor, uneducated work force, in order to hold down wages. It fits with their policy. No abortion, then they're on there on.
In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy of many in the 'pro-life' movement:
"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is."
This quote applies well to many Republican lawmakers who continue to introduce/pass restrictive misogynist laws against woman's reproductive rights. At the same time, the GOP works to shut down women's health clinics, with a special vengeance towards Planned Parenthood (#StandWithPP). You don't see these Right Wing anti-choice extremists adopting children from unplanned pregnancies or putting funds into sex education.
But you do see Republican lawmakers cut access to birth control, which prevents abortions. You do see the GOP's 54 attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act and their $24 billion Government Shutdown, both to destroy universal health reform which protects the needs of millions of American children. And you do see Republican lawmakers cut government programs like school lunches for children and block government financial aid to families who are homeless and/or in need.
The goals of these so-called anti-choice/'pro-life' hypocrites are not about fetuses or children once born, their agenda is about controlling women's bodies and women's futures. How great to hear Sister Joan Chittister, a Benedictine nun, define the pro-life/anti-choice GOP double talk so well. An outspoken advocate for women, Sister Joan Chittister is a lecturer and author of 50 books. Holding a Ph.D. from Penn State University, she is also a research associate in a division of Cambridge University. Other subjects of her writing include women in the church and society, human rights, peace and justice, religious life and spirituality. She has appeared in the media on numerous shows including Meet the Press, 60 Minutes, Bill Moyers, BBC, NPR, and Oprah Winfrey. You can visit Joan Chittister's website at Joan Chittister.org.

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