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Mar 20, 2014 15:55:12   #
Blacksheep
 
Abortion has always been a religious issue over these morals or those morals, instead of being a total non-issue. All that the flap over abortion really is, is control by men over women.

If someone deliberately kills an unborn baby against the mother's wishes, that should be murder, as well as assault and battery. But if the woman wants to rid herself of her pregnancy, that should not, because it's Her Body.

Anyone attempting to illegally enter our nation outside of our regular ports of entry should be shot on sight because that constitutes Invasion. We have every right as a sovereign nation to repel invaders any way we see fit. Start shooting the bastards and they'll stop swarming in.

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Mar 20, 2014 16:09:16   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Abortion has always been a religious issue over these morals or those morals, instead of being a total non-issue. All that the flap over abortion really is, is control by men over women.

.... But if the woman wants to rid herself of her pregnancy, that should not, because it's Her Body.

.....


If the baby is delivered, and the mother decides that its ugly, or that she just doesn't want it for any reason, .... should she then be allowed to just beat it to death with a fire poker and throw it in the trash?

Only difference is that she is doing the killing instead of a doctor, and the baby is outside instead of in her.

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Mar 20, 2014 16:29:19   #
Blacksheep
 
Trooper745 wrote:
If the baby is delivered, and the mother decides that its ugly, or that she just doesn't want it for any reason, .... should she then be allowed to just beat it to death with a fire poker and throw it in the trash?

Only difference is that she is doing the killing instead of a doctor, and the baby is outside instead of in her.



BRILLIANT!!! Omigod that was brilliant. So once a baby is born, you're saying it can be slaughtered but that's NOT murder?

Great concept. Is that a swastica on your forehead?

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Mar 20, 2014 16:29:49   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
Blacksheep wrote:


Anyone attempting to illegally enter our nation outside of our regular ports of entry should be shot on sight because that constitutes Invasion. We have every right as a sovereign nation to repel invaders any way we see fit. Start shooting the bastards and they'll stop swarming in.


I agree. I'll even volenteer on the border and use my own ammo.

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Mar 20, 2014 16:30:50   #
Blacksheep
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
I agree. I'll even volenteer on the border and use my own ammo.


You and me both.

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Mar 20, 2014 16:38:37   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Well, we could have used that Billion that Kerry gave to the Ukraine to keep them from bankruptsy (bringing us closer to ours) to fortify our borders in the areas you can simply walk across.
But since that did not happen, how's your sharp-shooting?
Blacksheep wrote:
You and me both.

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Mar 20, 2014 16:40:09   #
Blacksheep
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Well, we could have used that Billion that Kerry gave to the Ukraine to keep them from bankruptsy (bringing us closer to ours) to fortify our borders in the areas you can simply walk across.
But since that did not happen, how's your sharp-shooting?


Nickles at 200 yards.

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Mar 20, 2014 16:50:20   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Abortion has always been a religious issue over these morals or those morals, instead of being a total non-issue. All that the flap over abortion really is, is control by men over women.

If someone deliberately kills an unborn baby against the mother's wishes, that should be murder, as well as assault and battery. But if the woman wants to rid herself of her pregnancy, that should not, because it's Her Body.

Anyone attempting to illegally enter our nation outside of our regular ports of entry should be shot on sight because that constitutes Invasion. We have every right as a sovereign nation to repel invaders any way we see fit. Start shooting the bastards and they'll stop swarming in.
Abortion has always been a religious issue over th... (show quote)


I hate to say this Blacksheep, but you sir, are an idiot. You can't have it both ways. You can't pick and choose when any law will be enforced. If it is murder if she wants to keep her baby, then it is still murder if she decides to kill it. If it is not murder if she does it, then it is not murder if someone else does it. It's that simple.

Now then, as to your stupid statement about it being her body, that is the biggest crock I have ever heard. That baby is not her body and she does not have the right to kill it. That baby has it's own life and it's own body, so where do you come off saying it does not deserve to live just because Mommy decides she doesn't want it?

You say this is a religious issue and that is a total crock too. It is a human rights issue and it is that simple, but you are to stupid to see it or you just like killing babies. So according to you, when does a baby get it rights, before or after you kill it?

One more thing. This has never had anything to do with men having power over women. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, but then considering the source I can understand why you would say that. You just can't help it.

I really don't understand were you get off saying it is OK to murder someone and that everything is fine just because they have not been born yet. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I know you are not...........

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Mar 20, 2014 16:56:00   #
bobgssc
 
Blacksheep wrote:
If someone deliberately kills an unborn baby against the mother's wishes, that should be murder, as well as assault and battery. But if the woman wants to rid herself of her pregnancy, that should not, because it's Her Body.


That has to be the stupidest statement you have ever made. Simply does not make one shred of sense on any level. You get one or the other... can not be both ways and have anyone think there is equity in society.

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Mar 20, 2014 17:15:18   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Nickles at 200 yards.


''Blacksheep''Seeing it I might believe it . But I would like to know ,will you use a pistol, or a Rifle . :D :D ''Gem''

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Mar 20, 2014 17:19:56   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Abortion has always been a religious issue over these morals or those morals, instead of being a total non-issue. All that the flap over abortion really is, is control by men over women.

If someone deliberately kills an unborn baby against the mother's wishes, that should be murder, as well as assault and battery. But if the woman wants to rid herself of her pregnancy, that should not, because it's Her Body.

Anyone attempting to illegally enter our nation outside of our regular ports of entry should be shot on sight because that constitutes Invasion. We have every right as a sovereign nation to repel invaders any way we see fit. Start shooting the bastards and they'll stop swarming in.
Abortion has always been a religious issue over th... (show quote)


Truly, Orwellian "double think," in practice!

I am unsure how immigration and childlife termination are connected in your thinking?

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Mar 20, 2014 17:34:04   #
SeniorVerdad
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Abortion has always been a religious issue over these morals or those morals, instead of being a total non-issue. All that the flap over abortion really is, is control by men over women.

If someone deliberately kills an unborn baby against the mother's wishes, that should be murder, as well as assault and battery. But if the woman wants to rid herself of her pregnancy, that should not, because it's Her Body.

Anyone attempting to illegally enter our nation outside of our regular ports of entry should be shot on sight because that constitutes Invasion. We have every right as a sovereign nation to repel invaders any way we see fit. Start shooting the bastards and they'll stop swarming in.
Abortion has always been a religious issue over th... (show quote)



Abortion has nothing to do with men having power over women. It is nothing but a means of birth control. The only problem is you are murdering an unborn child. What is the difference between murdering the child inside the womb vs outside the womb? I have often observed that many pro-choice folks are also the same folks that come on like instinctive momma bears when it comes to protecting children from abuse of any kind. Rather hypocritical, in my opinion.

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Mar 20, 2014 17:37:42   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Blacksheep wrote:
BRILLIANT!!! Omigod that was brilliant. So once a baby is born, you're saying it can be slaughtered but that's NOT murder?

Great concept. Is that a swastica on your forehead?


Okay, let's take it slowly, so your pea brain can follow. My question is, "What is the difference between the doctor slaughtering a child before birth, and the mother killing it only a few minutes after birth?"

I never said the mother killing the baby isn't murder. In my opinion, the doctor crushing the skull of the baby in the womb is murder, just as the mother smashing it's skull after birth would be.

BTW, pull your head out of your @$$ and stick your swastika there!

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Mar 20, 2014 17:58:46   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
This isn't impossible. What do you know of Blacksheeps background?
My veteran husband used to take me and my teens target practicing and I got to where I could shoot an empty buckshot shell off a tree limb 75 ft away with a .45 handgun (rifles were to heavy for me). He had a stock German mouser that fired .33 or .35 mm, 22 gauge rifles, and a Smith and Wesson .45. What I was target practicing with was the hand gun, not a scope and rifle which can do much more precision distance.
We also had a Tower Musket with Kings Crown, 1786. No ammo though to play with.
Practice makes perfect.
GEM lucas wrote:
''Blacksheep''Seeing it I might believe it . But I would like to know ,will you use a pistol, or a Rifle . :D :D ''Gem''

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Mar 20, 2014 18:19:32   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
''Rhomy'' I happen to be pretty good with guns myself.Like I said I would like to see it before I would believe it.I didn't say I didn't believe him.''Gem''

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