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Feb 12, 2018 11:47:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
pafret wrote:
It would seem prudent to bar any person from holding a public office or government position if they have been a member of any secret society. I would include the Masons, Skull and Bones, Bilderbergergers, Committee on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Committee.

Europe has had a number of secret societies which had to be suppressed because they formed a DeFacto government, in opposition to the elected government. Italy's P200 Society comes to mind as one example.


You are right on pafret.
One correction; CFR is the Council on Foreign Relations, created by John D. Rockefeller in the 1920's.

Some Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Facts
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today, CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.

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Feb 12, 2018 11:49:10   #
1ProudAmerican
 
Morgan wrote:
Another asinine comment.


Morgan (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jun 18, 2016 Posts: 4944

1ProudAmerican wrote:
I don't think Morgan has an IRA or 401k .... you have to work to have those, not just cash you government checks....


"Another thoughtless mechanical response, when you have nothing to add but the very old repertoire, good job."


Feb 12, 2018 10:16:30 #
Morgan (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jun 18, 2016 Posts: 4944

1ProudAmerican wrote:
Talk about unstable nutcase....did you read YOUR post ?!?!?!


"Another asinine comment."



The same could be said of YOUR posts, Morgan....

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Feb 12, 2018 14:13:15   #
tom25411 Loc: WV
 
Look, damit; like him or not -He is now our president and he ain't going anywhere any time soon. For the good of America everyone should get behind him and move the country forward. That includes the Communists AKA Democrats.

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Feb 12, 2018 15:56:12   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
I don't think Morgan has an IRA or 401k .... you have to work to have those, not just cash you government checks....



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Feb 12, 2018 15:57:37   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Morgan (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jun 18, 2016 Posts: 4944

1ProudAmerican wrote:
I don't think Morgan has an IRA or 401k .... you have to work to have those, not just cash you government checks....


"Another thoughtless mechanical response, when you have nothing to add but the very old repertoire, good job."


Feb 12, 2018 10:16:30 #
Morgan (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jun 18, 2016 Posts: 4944

1ProudAmerican wrote:
Talk about unstable nutcase....did you read YOUR post ?!?!?!


"Another asinine comment."



The same could be said of YOUR posts, Morgan....
Morgan (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jun 18, 2... (show quote)



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Feb 12, 2018 18:51:43   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Talk about unstable nutcase....did you read YOUR post ?!?!?!


Not to mention but non stable nutcases do not become billionaires in the construction business, How About Elon Musk shooting his Tesla roadster into outer space. Can you imagine the back-flips and hysterical pronouncements had Trump done that?

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Feb 12, 2018 20:19:49   #
son of witless
 
Morgan wrote:
Fast and Furious, give it a break...Yeah, and I remember what became of just another false allegation...nothing


You know what, you are right. Trump has to be guilty of collusion for only one reason. Trump won the election. He could not have won without cheating. When Hillary lost to Donald J. Trump, Hillary and her voters were in shock. There was no explanation for it. It was inconceivable. You know that Hillary was so smart and so slick, she thought up a lie and she thought it up quick.

So the Russian-Trump Collusion lie was born. No evidence except that Trump is President. Now I just gave you proof of Obama's DOJ running guns into Mexico and you called it a false allegation, even though you cannot and did not even try to refute my proof. I also gave you evidence of Hillary running an illegal E-Mail server. Is that false also ?

Don't just dismiss my evidence. Destroy it, if you can. If you put forth proof of what you say I will do you the courtesy of either acknowledging you are right or I will offer counter evidence. I will not just do what you did and declare it false with no counter evidence..

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Feb 12, 2018 20:43:10   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
son of witless wrote:
You know what, you are right. Trump has to be guilty of collusion for only one reason. Trump won the election. He could not have won without cheating. When Hillary lost to Donald J. Trump, Hillary and her voters were in shock. There was no explanation for it. It was inconceivable. You know that Hillary was so smart and so slick, she thought up a lie and she thought it up quick.

So the Russian-Trump Collusion lie was born. No evidence except that Trump is President. Now I just gave you proof of Obama's DOJ running guns into Mexico and you called it a false allegation, even though you cannot and did not even try to refute my proof. I also gave you evidence of Hillary running an illegal E-Mail server. Is that false also ?

Don't just dismiss my evidence. Destroy it, if you can. If you put forth proof of what you say I will do you the courtesy of either acknowledging you are right or I will offer counter evidence. I will not just do what you did and declare it false with no counter evidence..
You know what, you are right. Trump has to be guil... (show quote)


Here's more info on Fast and Furious guns used by criminals to murder people... https://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2016/05/28/69-more-killed-thru-obamas-fast-and-furious

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Feb 12, 2018 21:34:40   #
son of witless
 
peter11937 wrote:
Here's more info on Fast and Furious guns used by criminals to murder people... https://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2016/05/28/69-more-killed-thru-obamas-fast-and-furious


Just another false allegation against our first Black President. It it it just has to be false, because , , , , it j j just has to be. Didn't you see that wonderful smile of President Obama when he won his first election ? And those big ass words and phrases he uses. Anybody who speaks them pretty words has to be a good guy. I don't care if you have a piece of paper signed in blood and in triplicate by 1,000 of the most honest men and women in America saying that Obama is a gun running POS, they will never lose faith in him.

That brain washed mindset is all emotion. Facts cannot penetrate minds like that. They will never believe Obama was a bum and that Donald J. beat Hillary fair and square. Emotion always Trumps facts.

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Feb 12, 2018 22:09:54   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
teabag09 wrote:
AMEN! You speak nothing but the truth! Mike


Thx Mike. How could any human being let something lime that happen to another human being when it could have been prevented. Obama and Clinton will get what's coming to them. You can count on it....

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Feb 12, 2018 22:11:23   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
peter11937 wrote:
Sevens was openly gay. Muslim's hate gay people and the koran directs the believers to kill them. The place had no fewer than two muslim terrorist training camps there in and by Benghazi. So on 9/11 they attacked and tortured Stevens to death and killed the guards. hillary could have sent reinforcements is the weeks before, but ignored Steven's request. What sane person would votes for someone who would do that?

She very well could of...but she didn't. She's a cold hearted evil b_tch....

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Feb 13, 2018 04:04:52   #
rumitoid
 
tom25411 wrote:
Look, damit; like him or not -He is now our president and he ain't going anywhere any time soon. For the good of America everyone should get behind him and move the country forward. That includes the Communists AKA Democrats.


If we get behind him, we will be pushing our country over a cliff. He is not our president; he cares nothing about America nor its citizens. One concern: The Donald!

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Feb 13, 2018 04:57:53   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
rumitoid wrote:
If we get behind him, we will be pushing our country over a cliff. He is not our president; he cares nothing about America nor its citizens. One concern: The Donald!


Do you sleep in a barn?

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Feb 13, 2018 07:50:26   #
son of witless
 
rumitoid wrote:
If we get behind him, we will be pushing our country over a cliff. He is not our president; he cares nothing about America nor its citizens. One concern: The Donald!


Care to give examples of this disaster you believe President Trump is pushing America towards ?

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Feb 13, 2018 08:20:08   #
Morgan
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Morgan (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jun 18, 2016 Posts: 4944

1ProudAmerican wrote:
I don't think Morgan has an IRA or 401k .... you have to work to have those, not just cash you government checks....


"Another thoughtless mechanical response, when you have nothing to add but the very old repertoire, good job."


Feb 12, 2018 10:16:30 #
Morgan (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jun 18, 2016 Posts: 4944

1ProudAmerican wrote:
Talk about unstable nutcase....did you read YOUR post ?!?!?!


"Another asinine comment."



The same could be said of YOUR posts, Morgan....
Morgan (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jun 18, 2... (show quote)



You duplicating these posts proves what? That your posts are barely worth responding to.

For example...your quote" did you read my post"...um, I wrote it, hence an idiot comment. I rest my case.

So tell me how could the same be said for me? Your posts parrot the same old nonsensical mantra of the far right radical loons. Dem's don't work, have no IRA, 40K, bawk bawk, bawk....heard ignorant statements like that all before, nothing new here. Nothing I said parrotted anything, it was personal to you to your comment to me, got it?

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