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Jan 25, 2018 07:40:21   #
Big Kahuna
 
snowbear37 wrote:



New legislation will cover illegal immigrants' single-payer health care


politics | Jan 23, 2018 | By David Jaroslav

Washington State and Florida don’t have a lot in common: aside from being at opposite corners of the country, both their political climates and their actual climates are poles apart. But one thing they do suddenly have in common are bills in their state legislatures to provide taxpayer-funded healthcare to illegal aliens. In common between them, too, is that neither state has infinite resources, a fact that evidently must come as a great surprise to the supporters of these fiscally reckless bills.

Washington Senate Bill 5957 and Florida’s two bills, House Bill 1385 and Senate Bill 1872, aren’t just similar: they’re virtually identical. You might suspect the same people probably drafted them. That’s because they both copy nearly word-for-word a single-payer healthcare bill introduced last year in California, Senate Bill 562, the so-called “Healthy California Act.” As with seemingly everything to come out of California lately, one of its main goals appears to have been giving as many handouts as possible to illegal aliens at the expense of American taxpayers.

In one section after another, the California bill makes clear repeatedly that illegal aliens should get all the same benefits as U.S. citizens and legal residents, and that not giving them these benefits would be “discrimination.” On top of that, the single-payer healthcare system that it creates might as well be called “sanctuary healthcare” because the bill prohibits both disclosure of immigration status information and any kind of cooperation or assistance with federal immigration authorities. And all these provisions are copied virtually unchanged straight into Washington’s and Florida’s bills.

SB 562 proved too extreme and expensive even for California: the state’s own fiscal analysis said it would cost $400 billion, half of which would require new revenue. That would have been more than twice the state’s total 2017-18 budget, “which includes $183.3 billion in spending.” But of course it was the overall price tag that was the “gigantic brick wall” that made it a “nonstarter,” not the fact that it heaped yet more public benefits on illegal aliens.

Washington State faced a budget shortfall last year, and just barely averted a state shutdown by raising taxes at the last minute. It’s already expected to face a similar crunch this year, and that’s without creating a massive new welfare program for illegal aliens.

Florida’s fiscal situation was a little bit better than Washington’s—that is, until Hurricane Irma hit the Sunshine State in September. Inflation-adjusted recovery costs are likely to match those from Wilma in 2005 and Andrew in 1992, while revenue can be expected to drop. In the wake of the storm, the legislature’s chief economist has projected that the state’s small anticipated surplus is gone, replaced by $500-million deficits for at least the next three years without major changes.

If there’s anything that’s almost certain, it’s that government programs never come in under budget. If there’s anything else that might be even more certain, it’s that creating expensive new benefit programs for illegal aliens just attracts even more illegal aliens, which makes those programs still more expensive. Neither Washington nor Florida could afford these costly bills even in the best of times, let alone now, and they should reject them.

David Jaroslav writes for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
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Giving health care to illegals has devastating results for real Americans. One example is in my home town. We had a vibrant top of the line hospital that was profitable and growing yearly. That was until they were forced to accept and treat the illegals that the demonratic party wanted to flood into our country. With pressure being put on the medical community to treat these illegals and no recourse for the hospital to be paid for its services you can imagine what happenned. Yes, the vibrant hospital folded, filed bankruptcy and is out of business. Everytime I drive by it, I have sadness as I was a patient there myself and now the hospital area is an empty lot and everything bulldozed down!! Yes this is what we get when illegals get free health care. The newspaper never carried the story on why the hospital had to close, news reporters never went out with camera's in hand to film the devastation. You get the idea, the media will not talk about the devastation that these programs have but spew leftist progaganda how we have to give health care to illegals. What a crime and this goes on in cities throughout our country.

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Jan 25, 2018 17:23:45   #
Radiance3
 
snowbear37 wrote:



New legislation will cover illegal immigrants' single-payer health care


politics | Jan 23, 2018 | By David Jaroslav

Washington State and Florida don’t have a lot in common: aside from being at opposite corners of the country, both their political climates and their actual climates are poles apart. But one thing they do suddenly have in common are bills in their state legislatures to provide taxpayer-funded healthcare to illegal aliens. In common between them, too, is that neither state has infinite resources, a fact that evidently must come as a great surprise to the supporters of these fiscally reckless bills.

Washington Senate Bill 5957 and Florida’s two bills, House Bill 1385 and Senate Bill 1872, aren’t just similar: they’re virtually identical. You might suspect the same people probably drafted them. That’s because they both copy nearly word-for-word a single-payer healthcare bill introduced last year in California, Senate Bill 562, the so-called “Healthy California Act.” As with seemingly everything to come out of California lately, one of its main goals appears to have been giving as many handouts as possible to illegal aliens at the expense of American taxpayers.

In one section after another, the California bill makes clear repeatedly that illegal aliens should get all the same benefits as U.S. citizens and legal residents, and that not giving them these benefits would be “discrimination.” On top of that, the single-payer healthcare system that it creates might as well be called “sanctuary healthcare” because the bill prohibits both disclosure of immigration status information and any kind of cooperation or assistance with federal immigration authorities. And all these provisions are copied virtually unchanged straight into Washington’s and Florida’s bills.

SB 562 proved too extreme and expensive even for California: the state’s own fiscal analysis said it would cost $400 billion, half of which would require new revenue. That would have been more than twice the state’s total 2017-18 budget, “which includes $183.3 billion in spending.” But of course it was the overall price tag that was the “gigantic brick wall” that made it a “nonstarter,” not the fact that it heaped yet more public benefits on illegal aliens.

Washington State faced a budget shortfall last year, and just barely averted a state shutdown by raising taxes at the last minute. It’s already expected to face a similar crunch this year, and that’s without creating a massive new welfare program for illegal aliens.

Florida’s fiscal situation was a little bit better than Washington’s—that is, until Hurricane Irma hit the Sunshine State in September. Inflation-adjusted recovery costs are likely to match those from Wilma in 2005 and Andrew in 1992, while revenue can be expected to drop. In the wake of the storm, the legislature’s chief economist has projected that the state’s small anticipated surplus is gone, replaced by $500-million deficits for at least the next three years without major changes.

If there’s anything that’s almost certain, it’s that government programs never come in under budget. If there’s anything else that might be even more certain, it’s that creating expensive new benefit programs for illegal aliens just attracts even more illegal aliens, which makes those programs still more expensive. Neither Washington nor Florida could afford these costly bills even in the best of times, let alone now, and they should reject them.

David Jaroslav writes for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
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That was the whole plan of Obama, to cover all illegal aliens including criminals. Then require the taxpayers to pay for them.
Effective 2015 Medicare premium deducted from my Social Security went up to $287 per month. It used to be $157. The increase was to add funding to Medicare to cover Obama care, and also to cover payment for the $800 billion dollars taken by Obama from Medicare to initially fund the Obamacare. That did not last long though, due to corruption and improper accounting.

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Jan 25, 2018 17:37:58   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
Do you ever consider the possibility that you are wrong and only believe this hateful crap because you are the heartless IDIOT?


Soon we'll all be heartless AND penniless idiots. Won't that be fun?

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Jan 25, 2018 17:40:29   #
debeda
 
Justsss wrote:
I have always believed in helping those less fortunate than myself. I use to give everything that I could until mexican illegals tried not once but twice to kill me.
I rented a house to 3 hard working guys until one day I dropped in to find 15 people living in my small historic house. After explaining to them that they had to leave they proceeded to trash my house and contents.
Will I ever help these blood suckers again ?
Most likely, but I want them gone from America and they can come here legally.
Do they contribute to our economy? Only for their benefit and not ours.
Since they had my home address ( living in a small town) one of the people that had lived in my house had run up a 55K hospital bill. They used my address for the hospital. The bill came to my home. I opened it not realizing it was addressed to someone else. To my surprise the hospital that chases me for a 1200.00 bill had forgiven this illegal that 55K bill !
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No surprise. Sorry you went through that, its a common story unfortunately.

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Jan 25, 2018 17:45:09   #
Singularity
 
debeda wrote:
Soon we'll all be heartless AND penniless idiots. Won't that be fun?


Soon? Relatively speaking, we are already penniless. If Bill Gates dropped a million penny bank note, a $10,000 bill, would it pay him more to stop and pick it up or to keep moving on to his next deal?

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Jan 25, 2018 18:03:36   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
Soon? Relatively speaking, we are already penniless. If Bill Gates dropped a million penny bank note, a $10,000 bill, would it pay him more to stop and pick it up or to keep moving on to his next deal?


Can you still buy food? Do you have a roof over your head? Clothes on your back? Access to the internet and a phone? If so, you're doing fine. If we all were as rich as Gates et al money would be meaningless in fact.

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Jan 25, 2018 18:15:55   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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That was the whole plan of Obama, to cover all illegal aliens including criminals. Then require the taxpayers to pay for them.
Effective 2015 Medicare premium deducted from my Social Security went up to $287 per month. It used to be $157. The increase was to add funding to Medicare to cover Obama care, and also to cover payment for the $800 billion dollars taken by Obama from Medicare to initially fund the Obamacare. That did not last long though, due to corruption and improper accounting.
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This whole debate about illegal aliens was brought about by Democrats wanting more votes. Again, politicians cause more problems than they solve.

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Jan 25, 2018 18:19:05   #
emarine
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
It would be less expensive to deport them. What is it about the word 'illegal' that you fail to comprehend?




See Pop... sometimes we do agree ...

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Jan 25, 2018 18:51:31   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
emarine wrote:
See Pop... sometimes we do agree ...


On occasion.

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Jan 27, 2018 00:04:29   #
Radiance3
 
drlarrygino wrote:
A much better health care system is called preventative medicine. In this plan, you are required to attend programs designed to keep you healthy and not wait until your bad health habits make you sick and you end up costing all of us millions of dollars. Now with this plan no pandering to illegals to get their votes from corrupt politicians (mainly demonrats) is needed as the proper way to stay healthy would be the rule. Simple ideas like, no smoking, no drugs, take your vitamins and minerals, quit buying sweets and alcohol with your food stamps, get 6 hours of sleep instead of running the streets and staying on your cell phone 24/7, try exercising daily. If the individual did not adhere to these healthy programs, money would be taken out of their paychecks to pay for their future medical problems and the taxpayer would be spared higher premiums. This program could be expanded on and it would definitely keep the leftist politicians from raping taxpayers to pay for illegals health benefits and their votes.
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You are perfectly right diarrygino. Do you notice that only democrat states allow and sell Marijuana to the public? Taking this drug eventually lead to addiction. Then the brains of these people get demented, useless, and violent. Thus adding to the population of non-productive and social problems. They add also to homelessness because they could not work. Furthermore, as soon as they become addicts, they need endless medical care at the expense of the hardworking taxpayers. That is how democrats claim to be proponents of justice, and compassion.

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