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Jan 17, 2018 04:51:50   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Steve700 wrote:
I don't know where you're coming from on that. You'll have to explain it to me because Slatten is a typical liberal -- without a conservative bone in his body as far as I can see.


Your opinion, and yours alone. Slatten is a much respected member of this forum who shares items showing both sides for what they are.

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Jan 17, 2018 05:37:11   #
Schulk Loc: Kentucky
 
I really don’t care what he said in that meeting. The one thing this Democrat got out of all this insanity was my Democratic Representatives don’t want any deal. They are standing for nothing but the total downfall of the American way. I am so ashamed that they refuse to do the job they were elected to do. That was to look after the interest of the American people.

This reporter hasn’t a clue as to what we Americans want. We want our elected officials to do the job they were elected to do. We did not elect them to throw we average American citizens to the wolves.

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Jan 17, 2018 05:37:56   #
baygreen
 
DICK DURBIN ANYONE WHO USES DICK FOR A QUOTE IS REALLY GUTTING THERE SELF AS DICK DURBIN WOULD SELL HIS FAMILY FOR A VOTE ON ANYTHING! THE SENATOR RODE ILLINOIS INTO THE BANKRUPTCY RECORD BOOKS AND EVERY TERM HE IS IN OFFICE HE BREAKS MORE LAWS THAN THE MAYOR OF CHIRAQ! DURBIN HAD STATE GOVT. STEAL LOTTERY MONEY TO MAKE STATE PAYROLL WHICH IS STILL SO SCREWED UP IMAGINE YOU WORK FOR STATE OF ILLINOIS AND YOU CAN'T HAVE DIRECT DEPOSIT OR CASH YOUR PAYCHECK WHEN YOU GET IT BECAUSE IT IS NO GOOD TILL THEY CALL YOU AND TELL YOU THERE IS MONEY IN STATE COFFER THEN. SO THEY WHERE TAKING LOTTERY MONEY TO PAY THERE BILLS INSTEAD OF FOR EDUCATION AND PLUS IF YOU WON A SCRATCH OFF OR LOTTO ETC. THEY CAN'T PAY YOU TILL THEY COLLECT MORE LOTTO MONEY FOR NEXT DRAWING ETC. THAT IS DICK DURBIN STYLE AND HE WANTS TO HAVE A SAY FOR OUR COUNTRY. WHAT AN IDIOT WHO RUNS A PYRAMID SCHEME IN ILLINOIS FOR YEARS. BESIDES HAVING OBAMA'S RECORD THAT DURBIN SHARES FOR THE RECORD BREAKING MURDER RATE. SO PRESIDENT TRUMP SAY WHAT THE HELL YOU WANT CAUSE WE KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN AND WHAT YOU DON'T! MAKE SURE YOU BUY LOTTERY TICKETS IN ILLINOIS TO HELP DICK DURBIN OUT SO HIS STATES PYRAMID SCHEME DOESN'T MAKE HIM AND HIS SANCTUARY STATE LOOK BAD ESPECIALLY ON MLK DAY WHICH IS STILL OVER RATED WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT PARADE TO THE CIVIL RIGHT FOR NATIVE AMERICANS WHO STILL ARE SCREWED, NOT ALL THE RESERVATIONS HAVE CASINO'S TO HELP THEM BUT WHO KNOWS DURBIN WOULD STEAL THAT MONEY TO!

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Jan 17, 2018 05:47:23   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
archie bunker wrote:
Your opinion, and yours alone. Slatten is a much respected member of this forum who shares items showing both sides for what they are.


He has you fooled Arch.He is no different than the rest of the loony libs.here.

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Jan 17, 2018 05:52:22   #
Schulk Loc: Kentucky
 
How does this idiot keep getting elected. Don’t anyone print or report the truth.? Why do the state workers continue working if not getting paid? Illinois sure sounds messed up.

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Jan 17, 2018 06:02:54   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Hemiman wrote:
He has you fooled Arch.He is no different than the rest of the loony libs.here.


I disagree Hemi. I know him personally. He's a good man.

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Jan 17, 2018 06:32:37   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
archie bunker wrote:
I disagree Hemi. I know him personally. He's a good man.

Thank you, Arch...just as I know you to be a good man from our several meetings and conversations over drinks, meals.

I would like to believe the best of all on this forum. Unfortunately, partisan and ideological passions run high at times, leading many to cast aspersions on anyone who may offer differing opinions for consideration and/or reflection by others. Again: I do not mind being called either liberal or conservative, as I can align with both...depending upon the topic. Neither side has a monopoly on the truth, nor should either deny the truth when it doesn't fit their narrative.

Have a great day

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Jan 17, 2018 07:13:49   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I don't know why they're denying the statement and I won't spend a nanosecond worrying about it.

As for Mia, what has she done about the bilking that the Clintons perpetrated on Haiti ?

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation

If liberals are so concerned for Haiti, why haven't they called out the Clintons for their exploitation of these people in their time of devastation ?
I don't know why they're denying the statement and... (show quote)


Wolf, republican congresswoman Mia Love is mentioned only briefly towards the end of this article.

http://www.americanlibertyreport.com/articles/the-clintons-and-haiti-whats-the-real-story/

Also, of interest.....https://www.newsmax.com/politics/mia-love-apology-trump-disparage/2018/01/14/id/837066/

"...asked her if she thought Trump's comments were racist, Love replied, "Well, I think they were — yes. I think that they were unfortunate...I wasn't in the room. I know the comments were made. I don't know which context they were made. I'm looking forward to finding out what happened, but more importantly, I'm looking forward to trying to fix the problem. I think we need to, we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard."

As a conservative Republican from Utah, Mrs. Love has been praised often on this forum...and rightfully so, as she is a sterling example of both representing her district and and being an exemplary example of the importance of immigrant's service to this nation.

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Jan 17, 2018 08:01:41   #
Big Kahuna
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sens. Cotton and Perdue are outed for lying on Trump's behalf

By Jennifer Rubin

January 16, 2018 at 10:00 AM

Some lawmakers on Jan. 14, denied President Trump called Haiti, El Salvador and African nations "shithole countries," as debate over an immigration deal continues and Congress faces a government shutdown. (Elyse Samuels/The Washington Post)

There is no honor among anti-immigrant advocates and liars, I suppose. After dutifully lying on behalf of the president regarding his abhorrent language (“shithole countries”), Sens. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and David Perdue (R-Ga.) were outed by the White House.

Three White House officials said Perdue and Cotton told the White House that they heard “shithouse” rather than “shithole,” allowing them to deny the president’s comments on television over the weekend. The two men initially said publicly that they could not recall what the president said.

Not only did these two repeatedly lie, but Cotton also impugned the integrity of Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), who told the truth. Asked whether the accusation that Trump spoke the offending words or the sentiment was phony, Cotton lied, “Yes.” He went on to say, “Senator Durbin has misrepresented what happened in White House meetings before, and he was corrected by Obama administration officials by it.”

Honorable men would resign after such a remarkable revelation of their crummy character; neither Cotton nor Perdue will. We still await the appearance of a single staffer of either who would quit in protest.

The incident is telling in many respects, but none more important for Republicans than this: They can lie and enable the president hoping to score brownie points, but this White House won’t repay loyalty in kind. Instead, Republicans will find themselves humiliated.

So to recap: The president described a preference for Norwegian (i.e. white) immigrants over those from “shithole” countries (African nations). He gave the Congressional Black Caucus the back of the hand. (“At one point, Durbin told the president that members of that caucus — an influential House group — would be more likely to agree to a deal if certain countries were included in the proposed protections, according to people familiar with the meeting. Trump was curt and dismissive, saying he was not making immigration policy to cater to the CBC and did not particularly care about that bloc’s demands, according to people briefed on the meeting. ‘You’ve got to be joking,’ one adviser said, describing Trump’s reaction.”) He blew up a possible deal on the Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals program, bragged about his actions to friends and then lied to the public about what he said. Two U.S. senators lied as well and then were double-crossed by White House aides.

This raises several questions: Why should these Republicans hold elected office? Why should anyone believe them in the future? And lastly, what is the appropriate response to them?

Given that the two senators lied to the faces of interviewers on the Sunday talk shows, network bookers might consider never having them on air again. They are known prevaricators, so whatever they say on their shows cannot be relied upon as credible. News outlets should respect their viewers by denying airtime for those with so little respect f

In addition, Durbin might consider filing ethics claims against both of the senators, seeking appropriate punishment by the Senate. The ethics committee has jurisdiction to consider “complaints and investigate allegations of improper conduct which may reflect upon the Senate, violations of law, violations of the Senate Code of Official Conduct and violations of rules and regulations of the Senate, relating to the conduct of individuals in the performance of their duties as Members of the Senate, or as officers or employees of the Senate, and to make appropriate findings of fact and conclusions with respect thereto.” I cannot imagine that publicly impugning another member’s integrity for the purpose of sustaining a lie would not constitute “improper conduct which may reflect upon the Senate.”

Democrats have every reason to shame and shun these two Republicans, who have behaved in such a nakedly partisan and dishonest fashion. I’d like to think that all senators would, but we already know how deep the tribal instinct runs.

As for Trump, the more details that emerge, the more nakedly racist and dishonest he appears. Under these circumstances, my suggestion about boycotting the State of the Union might actually catch on. Moreover, I don’t see any purpose in conducting in-person meetings with the president behind closed doors when he and Republican supplicants will lie about what goes on. Perhaps lawmakers should insist that all their interactions with the president be recorded so as to prevent more incidents such as this in the future.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Rubin_(journalist)

Jennifer Rubin (born 1962) is an American journalist. She writes the "Right Turn" blog for The Washington Post. Previously she worked at Commentary, PJ Media, Human Events, and The Weekly Standard. Her work has been published in media outlets including New York Post, New York Daily News, Politico, National Review, and The Jerusalem Post.
Sens. Cotton and Perdue are outed for lying on Tru... (show quote)

The rule is, "never, ever belief what a demonrat says. Never,ever believe the main stream media. Never, ever believe a leftist Hollyweirdite. Never, ever believe anything put out by leftist blacks or their organizations and never, ever believe islamic propaganda". Live by these rules and the truth will reside in you.

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Jan 17, 2018 08:13:17   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
drlarrygino wrote:
The rule is, "never, ever belief what a demonrat says. Never,ever believe the main stream media. Never, ever believe a leftist Hollyweirdite. Never, ever believe anything put out by leftist blacks or their organizations and never, ever believe islamic propaganda". Live by these rules and the truth will reside in you.

Both Jennifer Rubin and Mia Love are long-recognized conservatives/republicans.

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Jan 17, 2018 08:17:28   #
Big Kahuna
 
slatten49 wrote:
Both Jennifer Rubin and Mia Love are long-recognized conservatives/republicans.


Then let me add, never trust an establishment rhino either.

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Jan 17, 2018 08:26:02   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Then let me add, never trust an establishment rhino either.

Of course.

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Jan 17, 2018 08:34:20   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
I remember it was Sen Biggs who agreed with Senators Cotton and Perdue

Your memory fails you, as there is no current U.S. Senator 'Biggs.' There is, however, this congressman...Andrew Steven "Andy" Biggs, an American politician and a Republican member of the United States House of Representatives, representing Arizona's 5th congressional district.

It is hard to keep up with all of 'em.

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Jan 17, 2018 08:57:30   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I knew all along he said it.

And I certainly don't fault him for saying it.

I also know that Haiti and Africa are crapholes.

And I didn't need Trump's comment to convince me of it.

Anyone in favor of importing more immigrants from these countries should be sent to Mogadishu Somalia or Cité Soleil Haiti and left on their own.




Trump is exactly what this country needs...a president that "tells it like it is" instead of trying to be "politically correct" all the time. To me, "politically correct" is a contradiction in terms. The Constitution has not and does not provide protection against being "offended". In years past politicians were known as "liars". That has come to be synonymous with "politically correct".

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Jan 17, 2018 09:00:03   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Thank you, Arch...just as I know you to be a good man from our several meetings and conversations over drinks, meals.

I would like to believe the best of all on this forum. Unfortunately, partisan and ideological passions run high at times, leading many to cast aspersions on anyone who may offer differing opinions for consideration and/or reflection by others. Again: I do not mind being called either liberal or conservative, as I can align with both...depending upon the topic. Neither side has a monopoly on the truth, nor should either deny the truth when it doesn't fit their narrative.

Have a great day
Thank you, Arch...just as I know you to be a good ... (show quote)


Mornin Slat!
I'll admit that I did find the article to be extremely partison, and it provided no names of those who it claims heard what it claims. Simply using Administration Officials, or Anonymous Sources makes me suspicious every time. Anymore, we never know when any of these jackwads are lying to us about anything, or everything.
I did stumble across this earlier, and think it's worth consideration.



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