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Jan 10, 2018 20:52:43   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
Award needs to be punitive. VERY. Hate pollution.


Amazing we agree!

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Jan 10, 2018 21:26:11   #
emarine
 
lindajoy wrote:
Or the likes of Soros, et al..To include the buddies of companies that are now belly up but their CEOs and board members weren’t hurt....
Koch contributed what in comparison to what Solyndra stolecaway and that’s just one company.. You know like George Kaiser, billionaire and bundler for Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, closely tracked Solyndra and the firm handling his family foundation’s money, which owned more than a third of Solyndra. A frequent White House vistor, he discussed solar panels with the president at a Las Vegas dinner in 2010...Steve Mitchell, a Solyndra board member and investment adviser to Kaiser’s family foundation, kept Kaiser briefed on efforts to win DOE help for Solynda, and the news that the agency would agree to pay off investors before taxpayers if investors provided more money to keep the company operating....Or another~~Thomas Baruch, a Solyndra board member and owner of a company that held millions of dollars of Solyndra stock, reportedly met with Emanuel at least once in 2010 and scheduled a later White House meeting. At least three companies in which he invested received federal assistance.

Yes, climate change could have a broad impact on industrial sectors, investors and thus help or hurt your stock investments and retirement funds or if not yours, certainly these people, we’re talking about here..

Huge sums will be made and lost if the global climate changes too much, from heyyy we’re Sinking and will be under water by 2020 and 2020 comes like other predicted disasters were to take place and yet again nothing happens..

Tell me e~ do you think contradictory data was exposed to any of the big money investors in all these convienant businesses that jumped to help our country from killing itself in CO2 emissions??
Or the likes of Soros, et al..To include the buddi... (show quote)




Like I said there is risk in high tech start ups... seems fed funding approval started in 06 ... More info on Solyndra ...http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Solyndra-Energy-superstar-s-rapid-rise-and-fall-2309328.php

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Jan 10, 2018 22:33:11   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
emarine wrote:
Happy New Year to you & all ... Gov investment into energy R&D is nothing new... you may want to look up many of the company's you listed & find they are as of 2016 alive & well & generate many Billions in revenue and employ 10's of thousands... new tech start up is always risky & we will never hit any home runs without stepping up to the plate... 80 Billion is a boatload of bucks for Shure & it's unfortunate some play games... but look into fossil fuel subsidies over the years & 80 billion is a drop in the bucket... oil company's have been known to generate huge profits without taxpayers help... bottom line is sooner or later we will exhaust fossil fuel reserves... investment now will prolong this & give us time to perfect another energy source before we go to war over the last drop...I found this useful... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_subsidies http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2016/08/renewable-energy-was-16-9-percent-of-u-s-electric-generation-in-the-first-half-of-2016.html
Happy New Year to you & all ... Gov investment... (show quote)


I follow renewables too and am glad to see it is finally catching up in recognition of its alternatives to coal, in use...

Non renewables are still plentiful and cheaper which is always the draw back isn’t it??

Like prohibition was so are renewables.. They are in their infantile state and with adaption it will eventually feed the world...I just suspect it will be in addition to fossil and not totally replacing it ....???

Last I read Hydropower is the most widely-used renewable power source, with the global hydroelectric accounting for over 16% of the world's net electricity production...

Of course the disadvantage with renewable energy is that it is difficult to generate the quantities of electricity that are as large as those produced by traditional fossil fuel generators. ... Renewable energy often relies on the weather as it’s source and as predictable as it is not so is the efficiency of renewables..
Spoke to a few while in Hawaii and they put everything into solar to now finding the obstacles as burdensome as the reason they went solar.. The Islands being unique in ability to even do anything not above ground..

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Jan 11, 2018 10:29:23   #
S. Maturin
 
emarine wrote:
Happy New Year to you & all ... Gov investment into energy R&D is nothing new... you may want to look up many of the company's you listed & find they are as of 2016 alive & well & generate many Billions in revenue and employ 10's of thousands... new tech start up is always risky & we will never hit any home runs without stepping up to the plate... 80 Billion is a boatload of bucks for Shure & it's unfortunate some play games... but look into fossil fuel subsidies over the years & 80 billion is a drop in the bucket... oil company's have been known to generate huge profits without taxpayers help... bottom line is sooner or later we will exhaust fossil fuel reserves... investment now will prolong this & give us time to perfect another energy source before we go to war over the last drop...I found this useful... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_subsidies http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2016/08/renewable-energy-was-16-9-percent-of-u-s-electric-generation-in-the-first-half-of-2016.html
Happy New Year to you & all ... Gov investment... (show quote)


Of all those listed, show is exactly which ones you'd include in this statement of yours"..Gov investment into energy R&D is nothing new... you may want to look up many of the company's you listed & find they are as of 2016 alive & well & generate many Billions in revenue and employ 10's of thousands....."

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Jan 11, 2018 10:40:49   #
S. Maturin
 
Morgan wrote:
That must be you then because I don't see it that way. I care about the earth, our health and people, when things are out of wack I try and do something about it, resolve it. For example, not putting poisons on fruits and vegetables that cause brain damage to children or not put toxic ash in our rivers from coal mining or fracking waste going into our water supply. I support all people to have equal rights, no exception. If you find this doom and gloom, then go have mommy read you a bedside story, and we'll handle it.
That must be you then because I don't see it that ... (show quote)


Bullcrap.

You are but one of thousands who graduated from that Doom-n-Gloom wacko uni back in the ugly 1960s.

Our apple industry was severely damaged by one of your compatriot's alarmist Fright Generating publicity drives. You people assume some faux-( that's fake)- moral high ground by pretending to be something better than all others and yet you flit about burning as much fossil fuel as anyone else, etc., etc., etc.

Disgusting.

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Jan 11, 2018 13:49:19   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Bullcrap.

You are but one of thousands who graduated from that Doom-n-Gloom wacko uni back in the ugly 1960s.

Our apple industry was severely damaged by one of your compatriot's alarmist Fright Generating publicity drives. You people assume some faux-( that's fake)- moral high ground by pretending to be something better than all others and yet you flit about burning as much fossil fuel as anyone else, etc., etc., etc.

Disgusting.


When you smile the world smiles with you. Hope this makes you smile bright...

First Global warming was because of high levels of CO2..

Now global warming is the fault of hurricanes, artic blasts and wait, I’m sure by the end of the day the mudslides in Cali will be too...

It’s so cold, politicians are picking their own pockets, people are flocking inside the U.S. Capitol just for the hot air, and the outlook for anti-Trumpers has been downgraded from miserable and bewildered to hopelessly depressed.

Here’s one reason anti-Trumpers are especially down this winter: Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).

According to About.com, this woeful malady is triggered by overcast winter weather. Lack of exposure to sunlight can cause low levels of melatonin and serotonin. Low levels of both cause depression-like symptoms.

Lots of people are affected by SAD at this time every year, but, according to Dr. Norman Rosenthal — who, reports Newsweek, was the “first to describe the syndrome” — anti-Trumpers are especially susceptible to SAD symptoms this year....
<snip> plenty more to read should you wish...

Sometimes we’re even told our illnesses are from it ..

Did you see the lawsuit, class action no less. filed against Five Oil Companies for intended damage because of global warming.. New York definitely needs money to fix their infrastructure and seashores etc...

It will be an interesting one to follow.. I can just see the answers by the defendants and cross complaints against New York for failing to keep a clean state to begin with and scamming the people for funds they diverted...if they just pay attention to the dumping New York does and Chemicals released into the water by them they will have New York scammering to dismiss their lawsuit... Years of protracted litigation coming on this one...

Anyway sometimes reading positive brings positive...


https://personalliberty.com/frigid-winter-sad-anti-trumpers/

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Jan 11, 2018 14:34:00   #
S. Maturin
 
lindajoy wrote:
When you smile the world smiles with you. Hope this makes you smile bright...

First Global warming was because of high levels of CO2..

Now global warming is the fault of hurricanes, artic blasts and wait, I’m sure by the end of the day the mudslides in Cali will be too...

It’s so cold, politicians are picking their own pockets, people are flocking inside the U.S. Capitol just for the hot air, and the outlook for anti-Trumpers has been downgraded from miserable and bewildered to hopelessly depressed.

Here’s one reason anti-Trumpers are especially down this winter: Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).

According to About.com, this woeful malady is triggered by overcast winter weather. Lack of exposure to sunlight can cause low levels of melatonin and serotonin. Low levels of both cause depression-like symptoms.

Lots of people are affected by SAD at this time every year, but, according to Dr. Norman Rosenthal — who, reports Newsweek, was the “first to describe the syndrome” — anti-Trumpers are especially susceptible to SAD symptoms this year....
<snip> plenty more to read should you wish...

Sometimes we’re even told our illnesses are from it ..

Did you see the lawsuit, class action no less. filed against Five Oil Companies for intended damage because of global warming.. New York definitely needs money to fix their infrastructure and seashores etc...

It will be an interesting one to follow.. I can just see the answers by the defendants and cross complaints against New York for failing to keep a clean state to begin with and scamming the people for funds they diverted...if they just pay attention to the dumping New York does and Chemicals released into the water by them they will have New York scammering to dismiss their lawsuit... Years of protracted litigation coming on this one...

Anyway sometimes reading positive brings positive...


https://personalliberty.com/frigid-winter-sad-anti-trumpers/
When you smile the world smiles with you. Hope thi... (show quote)


I'm all for positive. Like I am positive that those doom-sayers are nearly all moronic in their hysteria and fear-mongering.

As for winter here in NYS, we've swung from -25deg F to 43 deg F in just a couple of days and, well, it's exciting.

As for our state being polluted.. all but a tiny bit of the acid rain came to us from up-stream Ohio valley.

Like other sea side places, the beaches are fouled by criminals dumping wastes illegally. Medical wastes and septic explicitly.

No wispy, uber-moral leftie has anything of substance to alleviate any of those problems.

I enjoyed that link.

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Jan 11, 2018 14:42:24   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
When you smile the world smiles with you. Hope this makes you smile bright...

First Global warming was because of high levels of CO2..

Now global warming is the fault of hurricanes, artic blasts and wait, I’m sure by the end of the day the mudslides in Cali will be too...

It’s so cold, politicians are picking their own pockets, people are flocking inside the U.S. Capitol just for the hot air, and the outlook for anti-Trumpers has been downgraded from miserable and bewildered to hopelessly depressed.

Here’s one reason anti-Trumpers are especially down this winter: Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).

According to About.com, this woeful malady is triggered by overcast winter weather. Lack of exposure to sunlight can cause low levels of melatonin and serotonin. Low levels of both cause depression-like symptoms.

Lots of people are affected by SAD at this time every year, but, according to Dr. Norman Rosenthal — who, reports Newsweek, was the “first to describe the syndrome” — anti-Trumpers are especially susceptible to SAD symptoms this year....
<snip> plenty more to read should you wish...

Sometimes we’re even told our illnesses are from it ..

Did you see the lawsuit, class action no less. filed against Five Oil Companies for intended damage because of global warming.. New York definitely needs money to fix their infrastructure and seashores etc...

It will be an interesting one to follow.. I can just see the answers by the defendants and cross complaints against New York for failing to keep a clean state to begin with and scamming the people for funds they diverted...if they just pay attention to the dumping New York does and Chemicals released into the water by them they will have New York scammering to dismiss their lawsuit... Years of protracted litigation coming on this one...

Anyway sometimes reading positive brings positive...


https://personalliberty.com/frigid-winter-sad-anti-trumpers/
When you smile the world smiles with you. Hope thi... (show quote)


Even the lawyers around here have their hands in their own pockets.

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Jan 11, 2018 14:57:35   #
emarine
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Of all those listed, show is exactly which ones you'd include in this statement of yours"..Gov investment into energy R&D is nothing new... you may want to look up many of the company's you listed & find they are as of 2016 alive & well & generate many Billions in revenue and employ 10's of thousands....."




Check this out if you're too lazy to do your own leg work...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunPower


SunPower Corporation

Type
Public
Traded as
NASDAQ: SPWR
Russell 1000 Component
Industry
Solar Energy
Founded
1985
Founder
Richard Swanson
Headquarters
San Jose, California, U.S.
Key people
Thomas H. Werner (CEO)
Products
Solar panels
Revenue
US$ 1,576,470,000 (2016)
Operating income
US$ -206,290,000 (2016)
Net income
US$ -187,020,000 (2016)
Total assets
US$ 4,856,990,000 (2016)
Total equity
US$ 1,449,150,000 (2016)
Number of employees
8,902 (December 2016)
Parent
Total S.A. (66%)
Website
sunpower.co

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Jan 11, 2018 15:07:38   #
S. Maturin
 

Well, stupid, it is YOUR leg work, not mine.
Are you arrogant enough, suffering from terminal hubris enough to ASSume you can assign others "leg work"?

\
emarine wrote:
Check this out if you're too lazy to do your own leg work...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunPower


SunPower Corporation

Type
Public
Traded as
NASDAQ: SPWR
Russell 1000 Component
Industry
Solar Energy
Founded
1985
Founder
Richard Swanson
Headquarters
San Jose, California, U.S.
Key people
Thomas H. Werner (CEO)
Products
Solar panels
Revenue
US$ 1,576,470,000 (2016)
Operating income
US$ -206,290,000 (2016)
Net income
US$ -187,020,000 (2016)
Total assets
US$ 4,856,990,000 (2016)
Total equity
US$ 1,449,150,000 (2016)
Number of employees
8,902 (December 2016)
Parent
Total S.A. (66%)
Website
sunpower.co
Check this out if you're too lazy to do your own l... (show quote)

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Jan 11, 2018 15:16:34   #
S. Maturin
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Of all those listed, show is exactly which ones you'd include in this statement of yours"..Gov investment into energy R&D is nothing new... you may want to look up many of the company's you listed & find they are as of 2016 alive & well & generate many Billions in revenue and employ 10's of thousands....."


And, ole emarine brings one company out of the "many" he cites. And that ONE (1) company was started in 1985.

Nothing in the wispy, criminal, Obama funding of all those FAILING greenies. Like Solyndra, etc., etc.,---

Nothing.

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Jan 11, 2018 15:29:51   #
emarine
 
lindajoy wrote:
I follow renewables too and am glad to see it is finally catching up in recognition of its alternatives to coal, in use...

Non renewables are still plentiful and cheaper which is always the draw back isn’t it??

Like prohibition was so are renewables.. They are in their infantile state and with adaption it will eventually feed the world...I just suspect it will be in addition to fossil and not totally replacing it ....???

Last I read Hydropower is the most widely-used renewable power source, with the global hydroelectric accounting for over 16% of the world's net electricity production...

Of course the disadvantage with renewable energy is that it is difficult to generate the quantities of electricity that are as large as those produced by traditional fossil fuel generators. ... Renewable energy often relies on the weather as it’s source and as predictable as it is not so is the efficiency of renewables..
Spoke to a few while in Hawaii and they put everything into solar to now finding the obstacles as burdensome as the reason they went solar.. The Islands being unique in ability to even do anything not above ground..
I follow renewables too and am glad to see it is f... (show quote)




I think we have an enormous Geo thermal potential ... unlimited BTU's to generate electric ...our planet is cooling very slowly so it would be a short term investment for a very long term gain... screw the tree huggers & robber barons at the same time... I did say I'm Independent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power

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Jan 11, 2018 15:36:44   #
emarine
 
S. Maturin wrote:
And, ole emarine brings one company out of the "many" he cites. And that ONE (1) company was started in 1985.

Nothing in the wispy, criminal, Obama funding of all those FAILING greenies. Like Solyndra, etc., etc.,---

Nothing.




Like I said... you are lazy... get off your ass and look all of them up for yourself or just learn to read ... it states 10% failed.& Solyndra was started the mid 2000's. have anything valid to post?...

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Jan 11, 2018 15:37:18   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
S. Maturin wrote:
I'm all for positive. Like I am positive that those doom-sayers are nearly all moronic in their hysteria and fear-mongering.

As for winter here in NYS, we've swung from -25deg F to 43 deg F in just a couple of days and, well, it's exciting.

As for our state being polluted.. all but a tiny bit of the acid rain came to us from up-stream Ohio valley.

Like other sea side places, the beaches are fouled by criminals dumping wastes illegally. Medical wastes and septic explicitly.

No wispy, uber-moral leftie has anything of substance to alleviate any of those problems.

I enjoyed that link.
I'm all for i positive /i . Like I am positive th... (show quote)


Glad you enjoyed the link...

You have had some exciting weather for sure.. I have a friend in Georgia that sent me a picture of his home snowed in.. Not just a little either..
timing perfect as he spent over 18k putting in a house generator, new water pipes etc His generator does his house literally and he went to a gas water heater as well..

Point being he did all this just in case and sure enough it came..

Doom sayers thrive on creating fear.. They need us to feel as they do so they can then feel superior... Or content they made another feel as miserable as they are.. Such a pity..

They look at the earth and see it is going to blow up .. I look at it as the most amazing place we have the privilege sharing.. Take care of it means keep it clean, land, water and air and stay out of the way of Mother Nature who knows exactly what our beautiful planet needs..



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Jan 11, 2018 16:00:42   #
emarine
 
S. Maturin wrote:

Well, stupid, it is YOUR leg work, not mine.
Are you arrogant enough, suffering from terminal hubris enough to ASSume you can assign others "leg work"?

\




Very impressive bold print... I do my own legwork to provide accurate info.... unlike you who remains lazy & ignorant... I provided a link on the rise & fall of Solyndra, maybe you should read it before proving your continued ignorance...here's another off the list just to piss you off... enjoy...


First Solar

First Solar, Inc. is an American photovoltaic manufacturer of rigid thin film modules, or solar panels, and a provider of utility-scale PV power plants and supporting services that include finance, construction, maintenance and end-of-life panel …

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Stock price: FSLR (NASDAQ) 76.12 ▲ +6.49 (9.32%)
Jan 11, 3:45 PM EST · 20 min delayed
Founded: 1999
Revenue: $3.58 billion USD (2015)
Headquarters: Tempe, AZ
CEOs: Mark Widmar (Since 2016) · Mark R. Widmar (Since 2016)
Founders: Harold McMaster · Michael J Ahearn
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