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Obamacare includes a "$700 billion cut from Medicare for seniors."
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Dec 31, 2017 14:19:02   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
HA HA HA. Who’d you plagiarize this from? You generally can’t spell cat. You expect us to believe you came up with this?
Airforceone wrote:
To thebigp
Again when I read this stuff about $716 billion in Medicare cuts. First the president cannot cut anything Congress has to approve these cuts and Congress now has been 100% controlled by republicans. So if I may try to clear this insidious line of misinformation and try to keep it simple in order for Trump supporters who never read. CBO report in there lifetime.

This $716 billion cut is a Paul Ryan line of BS. The numbers quoted by thebigp was a CBO scoring for Ryan only (IF REPUBLICANS WERE SUCCESSFUL IN REPEALING THE ACA IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA CUTTING MEDICARE IT WAS FOR RYAN ONLY AND RYAN AND REPUBLICANS PASSED THIS BS LIE ONTO TO ROMNEY) It was all part of a memo from the CBO in July of the Romney Obama campaign. It invovled the Republican House plan to repeal the ACA. If the ACA was repealed Medicare would increase in cost over 10 years from 2013 to 2022 by $716 billion. There is absolutly nothing in that CBO report that Obama would cut benefits or anything about cuts to funds. It was a CBO memo to Ryan of numbers that increased Medicare spending if the ACA were to be repealed. But Ryan and other republicans twisted it to mean something that was a flat out lie.

Those numbers put out by Ryan and Romney on Obama cutting Medicare by $716 billion is without a doubt the most insidious lie from republicans, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romneywho refuse to correct what that CBO report actually meant.

This has been throughly debunked by left and right media outlets. But cable channels like Fox And Limbaugh continue with This insidious lie.

( THERE ARE NOT ANY CUTS TO MEDICARE BENEFITS NON) show me cuts in benefits.

That same CBO report to Ryan which he conveniently left out the full extent that over that same period from 2013 to 2022 actually under Obama trimmed $428 billion in waste, fraud and abuse. (NO CUTS TO BENEFITS AND RYAN AND ROMNEY KNEW IT AND CONTINUED WITH THE LIE) That same memo from the CBO indicated to Ryan it will add an additional 8 to 10 years in solvency to Medicare (WITHOUT TOUCHING BENEFITS) this really bother Ryan because his constant agenda to eliminate Medicare and turn it over to the private sector and create a block grant.

Let’s take an attempt at common sense when Republicans and Paul Ryan want to use there agenda of saving Medicare with there block grants while democrats who created it and have fought to sustain it want to suddenly destroy it by cutting $716 billion. (IT MAKES NO SENSE AND DEFYING COMMON SENSE)

This has been exposed as one of the most insidious lies and misinformation about Obama trying to cut Medicare.
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Dec 31, 2017 21:58:25   #
Airforceone
 
mactheknife wrote:
I'm not saying that Obama did cut Medicare. What I am saying is that because Medicare is a trust fund, whoever makes cuts should be prosecuted as the taking of money from a trust fund without the authorization of the trustor is "embezzlement". I hope that this clears up your confusion.


He never took a dime from Medicare the funds were actually a savings due to the cuts in Medicare Advantage. Which was nothing but a slush fund for the private Insurance carriers passed by Bush in 2003 and his Republican Congress. Google ( Did Obama cut Medicare and read) I am getting very frustrated explaining it.

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Dec 31, 2017 22:05:47   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Airforceone wrote:
He never took a dime from Medicare the funds were actually a savings due to the cuts in Medicare Advantage. Which was nothing but a slush fund for the private Insurance carriers passed by Bush in 2003 and his Republican Congress. Google ( Did Obama cut Medicare and read) I am getting very frustrated explaining it.


http://dailysignal.com/2012/08/01/obamacare-robs-medicare-of-716-billion-to-fund-itself/

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Dec 31, 2017 22:06:43   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
My robber is your savior. All depends what side of the fence you are on.
JFlorio wrote:
http://dailysignal.com/2012/08/01/obamacare-robs-medicare-of-716-billion-to-fund-itself/

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Jan 4, 2018 13:34:46   #
vernon
 
Airforceone wrote:
What a line of BS, where the hell did you get those figures. Damm how many times does this have to be explained. This is Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney BS at its best.

The $716 Billion Which was originally $500 billion. The health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare. The law in no way cuts Medicare. (FUTURE GROWTH SAVINGS) The GD savings come from reducing cost that goes to the private insurers who provide the Medicare Advantage.

Medicare Advantage was created by the Medicare Modernization Act Of 2003 by the Republican Party and signed by Bush. All it was is a subsidy to encourage privatization of the Medicare. It was a slush fund to overpay by an estimated $716 billion for private companies that the right wing would lead you to believe that it would cost less money for Medicare.

Medicare Advantage was costing 14% more which Obama saved he did not cut that $716 billion. It was a savings to traditional Medicare system. Again it was a savings for (FUTURE GROWTH) should I say it again there was no cut to Medicare it was a savings on (FUTURE GROWTH)

Damm that has been debunked ever since Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan started that garbage when they were running for President.

(ITS CLASSIFIED AS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES OF MISINFORMATION PUT ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DURING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
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This is the biggest pile of crap i've read all day there is not one shred of truth in it.its all conjecture and half truths ,which the rats are so good at .

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