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Dec 29, 2017 09:35:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I find it funny that my dad went through the depression and that generation, literally starving many time s would not take government handouts because it felt like charity. The great majority of Americans durring that trying time did not steal. Now these liberals make excuses for abhorrent behavior. Never the individuals fault. These people are enabling bad behavior and don't even know it.
Steve700 wrote:
One wrong statement in a paragraph or two never negates the whole thing. --- NEVER. Only a dishonest dumb liberal would say that when they don't like any of the facts contained. A true liberal probably doesn't hate Christianity, but a progressive/communist/leftist certainly does. And you, as a Christian hating lefty found this sentence, particularly uncomfortable and alarming, because you can't stand the truth of it: So your liberal idea that poverty Creates criminality is a line of bull. It's quite the opposite. It is the lack of Christian Values that Creates the Degeneracy, that Creates Poverty.
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Dec 29, 2017 10:19:20   #
kemmer
 
Steve700 wrote:
One wrong statement in a paragraph or two never negates the whole thing. --- NEVER. Only a dishonest dumb liberal would say that when they don't like any of the facts contained. A true liberal probably doesn't hate Christianity, but a progressive/communist/leftist certainly does. And you, as a Christian hating lefty found this sentence, particularly uncomfortable and alarming, because you can't stand the truth of it: So your liberal idea that poverty Creates criminality is a line of bull. It's quite the opposite. It is the lack of Christian Values that Creates the Degeneracy, that Creates Poverty.
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You just cannot help repeating your ridiculously hateful hyperbole against liberals, can you. You confuse "Christian values" with OT semi-barbarism.

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Dec 29, 2017 15:06:08   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
kemmer wrote:
Just try to get any Anglos into the fields to tend and harvest the crops!


Yeh! But those people are not the ones that we were talking about. Those are the ones that are on the state teat and are not interested in doing farm labor. Just like in the construction industry, where no American will take the construction jobs. That is just another left wing lie used to dispel anger against the illegals, that take jobs Americans would take, for lower wages to make a larger profit for their employers.

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Dec 29, 2017 15:19:24   #
kemmer
 
Louie27 wrote:
Yeh! But those people are not the ones that we were talking about. Those are the ones that are on the state teat and are not interested in doing farm labor. Just like in the construction industry, where no American will take the construction jobs. That is just another left wing lie used to dispel anger against the illegals, that take jobs Americans would take, for lower wages to make a larger profit for their employers.


I taught school 35 years among many "illegals" and I say you're full of BS.

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Dec 29, 2017 15:41:50   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
kemmer wrote:
I taught school 35 years among many "illegals" and I say you're full of BS.


I take it you know nothing about the construction industry. I was in construction for about fifty years and saw this first hand, about illegals taking jobs from Americans. So you are the one that states something about something you know nothing about. You were a teacher and never ventured into the real world, so you know only about things that you have heard about, but never had seen it first hand. Where I lived in Western Colorado all races of people picked fruit and vegetables during the seasons, not just Mexicans or illegals. Most of us have lived in the real world and not in the world of academia. I bet you never got your hands dirty doing manual labor for someone else.

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Dec 29, 2017 15:45:25   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
He thinks Manuel Labor is the president of Mexico.
Louie27 wrote:
I take it you know nothing about the construction industry. I was in construction for about fifty years and saw this first hand, about illegals taking jobs from Americans. So you are the one that states something about something you know nothing about. You were a teacher and never ventured into the real world, so you know only about things that you have heard about, but never had seen it first hand. Where I lived in Western Colorado all races of people picked fruit and vegetables during the seasons, not just Mexicans or illegals. Most of us have lived in the real world and not in the world of academia. I bet you never got your hands dirty doing manual labor for someone else.
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Dec 29, 2017 16:34:35   #
kemmer
 
Louie27 wrote:
I take it you know nothing about the construction industry. I was in construction for about fifty years and saw this first hand, about illegals taking jobs from Americans. So you are the one that states something about something you know nothing about. You were a teacher and never ventured into the real world, so you know only about things that you have heard about, but never had seen it first hand. Where I lived in Western Colorado all races of people picked fruit and vegetables during the seasons, not just Mexicans or illegals. Most of us have lived in the real world and not in the world of academia. I bet you never got your hands dirty doing manual labor for someone else.
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Maybe if contractors would pay a decent wage, more Americans would apply. Don't be getting on the illegals; the contractors do the hiring.
BTW, I did lath and plastering in college.

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Dec 29, 2017 16:35:46   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
kemmer wrote:
Maybe if contractors would pay a decent wage, more Americans would apply. Don't be getting on the illegals; the contractors do the hiring.
BTW, I did lath and plastering in college.


They would if they couldn’t pay illegals.

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Dec 29, 2017 16:37:27   #
kemmer
 
JFlorio wrote:
They would if they couldn’t pay illegals.


Hahaha.... what does that even mean?

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Dec 29, 2017 16:38:25   #
johnmont
 
Louie27 wrote:
Yeh! But those people are not the ones that we were talking about. Those are the ones that are on the state teat and are not interested in doing farm labor. Just like in the construction industry, where no American will take the construction jobs. That is just another left wing lie used to dispel anger against the illegals, that take jobs Americans would take, for lower wages to make a larger profit for their employers.


The corporations that do that are violating the law! they are commiting crimes some are felonies ! but you go after the victims of those crimes! We should have a guest worker program for the farm workers with portability where the corporations will compete for workers.

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Dec 29, 2017 17:35:35   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
johnmont wrote:
The corporations that do that are violating the law! they are commiting crimes some are felonies ! but you go after the victims of those crimes! We should have a guest worker program for the farm workers with portability where the corporations will compete for workers.

E verify works. Green cards for workers we need is fine.

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Dec 29, 2017 17:38:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha.... what does that even mean?


It means if we didn’t have a bunch of uneducated, unskilled illegals driving wages down wages for Americans would be higher You were a teacher? No wonder a great majority of millennials are snowflakes.

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Dec 29, 2017 19:27:33   #
kemmer
 
JFlorio wrote:
It means if we didn’t have a bunch of uneducated, unskilled illegals driving wages down wages for Americans would be higher You were a teacher? No wonder a great majority of millennials are snowflakes.


Hahaha.... Dummy! The illegals don't hire themselves!

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Dec 29, 2017 19:36:15   #
johnmont
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha.... Dummy! The illegals don't hire themselves!


Don't argue with them they just need someone to hate and blame their problems on.

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Dec 29, 2017 19:57:15   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha.... Dummy! The illegals don't hire themselves!


That statement makes no sense. The companies hire the illegals.

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