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CNN calls out Trump on his endless list of lies! Trump is in fact a pathological liar!
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Dec 12, 2017 17:50:34   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
emarine wrote:
Some thoughts from reading along thus far... are we smart Americans... the smart few control the wealth & control both sides of this government lock stock & barrel bating both sides against each other... no side is right & no side is wrong... & that's how they perpetuate their wealth... you may think that you're on the winning side because your side won an election... think again... back in the 30's many of these wealthy industrialists like Ford, IBM & a slew of others wanted this country to side with Hitler & the Nazis... that never happened... but it could have... review history... the internet has provided so much information there is no truth anymore unless you were there to see it... no one knows who to believe anymore or what is true... the truth is we are all just fish hitting the bait we like to eat...
Some thoughts from reading along thus far... are w... (show quote)


For.d did not want us to side with the NAZI party. He was antisemitic because he believed they were responsible for his union problems. He had beliefs that were hard to break, for instance he refused to believe hydraulic brakes could possibly work and ford had mechanical brakes until sales plummeted because of it. Ford wrote an apology for his antisemitic leanings ad transferred his hate to the unions and his hit man Harry Bennett beat the living crap out of Walter Reuther and others...... you should read Ford's life history, truly 19th century thinking everywhere except in the construction of cars

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Dec 12, 2017 17:58:40   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Trump has been proven to lie much more than Hillary!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/


peter11937 wrote:
True, here's an old list of Hillary's lies, she's made many more since. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/hillarys_list_of_lies.html



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Dec 12, 2017 18:10:39   #
kemmer
 
peter11937 wrote:
True, here's an old list of Hillary's lies, she's made many more since. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/hillarys_list_of_lies.html


None of that (in 2008) compares with Trump's daily lies and Sarah Huckster's daily cover-up lies.

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Dec 12, 2017 18:16:07   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
There is no news media, including Fox news that has lied as often as Donald Trump!

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/watch-jake-tapper-hits-white-house-with-damning-list-of-trump-lies-after-it-accuses-media-of-misleading-the-public/

And the right wing fools believe every lie he tells!


You spelled Trump wrong ! It should be spelled Hillary.

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Dec 12, 2017 18:22:25   #
kemmer
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
You spelled Trump wrong ! It should be spelled Hillary.


You need glasses.

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Dec 12, 2017 18:40:38   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
kemmer wrote:
You need glasses.

Another look at the dishonest corrupt Hillary history..... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/19/hillary-clintons-long-list-of-lies/ and you leftwingnuts want her as president? That's not rational.

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Dec 12, 2017 18:40:49   #
emarine
 
peter11937 wrote:
For.d did not want us to side with the NAZI party. He was antisemitic because he believed they were responsible for his union problems. He had beliefs that were hard to break, for instance he refused to believe hydraulic brakes could possibly work and ford had mechanical brakes until sales plummeted because of it. Ford wrote an apology for his antisemitic leanings ad transferred his hate to the unions and his hit man Harry Bennett beat the living crap out of Walter Reuther and others...... you should read Ford's life history, truly 19th century thinking everywhere except in the construction of cars
For.d did not want us to side with the NAZI party.... (show quote)




http://www.thenation.com/article/ford-and-fuhrer/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1445822/Ford-used-slave-labour-in-Nazi-German-plants.html

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Dec 12, 2017 19:02:00   #
kemmer
 
peter11937 wrote:
Another look at the dishonest corrupt Hillary history..... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/19/hillary-clintons-long-list-of-lies/ and you leftwingnuts want her as president? That's not rational.

Not a whole lot of us wanted Hillary to be president, but she surely couldn't do any worse than that halfwit now in the Oval Office.

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Dec 12, 2017 20:05:34   #
plainlogic
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
There is no news media, including Fox news that has lied as often as Donald Trump!

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/watch-jake-tapper-hits-white-house-with-damning-list-of-trump-lies-after-it-accuses-media-of-misleading-the-public/

And the right wing fools believe every lie he tells!



You're so far in the depth of the Democrat cesspool you're blowing kernels of corn.

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Dec 12, 2017 20:12:17   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
There is no news media, including Fox news that has lied as often as Donald Trump!

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/watch-jake-tapper-hits-white-house-with-damning-list-of-trump-lies-after-it-accuses-media-of-misleading-the-public/

And the right wing fools believe every lie he tells!


Yet another lie. They just keep piling up!

http://americanactionnews.com/articles/cnn-retracts-another-anti-trump-hit-piece

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Dec 12, 2017 20:21:34   #
plainlogic
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
And you just told a bald faced lie! Obama has been proven to be the most honest president on record!




Yep, you can keep your Doctor, you can keep your insurance, Obamacare, would reduce insurance premiums by $2,500 for the typical family.

The biggest lie is the one you keep telling yourself about the last POTUS and his hand picked administration...

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Dec 12, 2017 20:39:03   #
kemmer
 
plainlogic wrote:
You're so far in the depth of the Democrat cesspool you're blowing kernels of corn.

Oh right. A president who's an admitted sexual predator, surrounded by a cabinet of Wall Street CEOs and billionaires; a tax plan to make the wealthy & flushed with profits corporations richer.
Talk about a cesspool. We have 2 political parties now: the Democrats and the Trumporats.

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Dec 12, 2017 20:48:31   #
Nickolai
 
badbob85037 wrote:
It seems my poll is more to date than your poll. There seems to be a depleting of the stupid in the last few years.






Are you trying to be funny???

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Dec 12, 2017 20:54:26   #
Nickolai
 
JFlorio wrote:
Yet you believed all of Obama's lies and Hillary's, yet that doesn't reflect on your character.




What passed for Obama lies were what He was led to believe and he repeated But if he believed it himself it does not constitute a lie of commission. All Presidents have lied but it is stupid to try and get away with committing outright lies in this day and age of factcheck.com and Snopes

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Dec 12, 2017 20:56:21   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 



My father flew Ford B-24's during WW-2. Please note how quickly Willow run became a functional operation. http://www.military.com/video/aircraft/attack-and-fighter-aircraft/fords-b-24-liberator-bomber-factory/2849404120001 and ore ford war effort here... http://www.usautoindustryworldwartwo.com/ford.htm
As a matter of fact, the USA was very isolationist , as a majority felt duped into WW1 and did not want to fight. The feeling was so strong that FDR resorted to doing thing that violated the Neutrality Act , sending warships to the mid Atlanytic where the American crew would move to a ship returning to the USA while a Brit crew came aboard. By flying aircraft to the Canadian border, lending on a makeshift landing field at the border , then Canadians would cross over and roll the aircraft to a Canadian fields mere feet over the border. The Murmansk Run that began supplying the Russians with the weapons of war so they could fight the war. All secret and started before 12/8.1941.


https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ford+ww2+war+effort&qpvt=ford+ww2+war+effort&FORM=IGRE


http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/history/historical-sheets/murmansk

While Ford was trying to protect his investments from seizure by Hitler Ford's efforts after 12/7/1941 cannot have been more robust.....
Interestingly, in Dad's bomber group, the only B-24 tat did not work properly was one with an airframs by Ford and engines by GM

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