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Dec 10, 2017 04:48:33   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
PeterS wrote:
This was on my facebook feed. I think it hits the nail on the head...



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Dec 10, 2017 06:04:08   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Loki wrote:
Electoral votes decided the election, just as they have done every election since 1799. The result was Trump 304, Hillary 227. I'm so sorry it's been more than a year and you Hobbit Dancers still cannot accept that fact. (Actually, I'm more amused than sorry).


Yes, these WINGNUTS do offer Great Intertainment I can't wait to see their final episode, which should be comming up right after Their New Years Resolutions

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Dec 10, 2017 06:14:09   #
Kevyn
 
JFlorio wrote:
That entire Facebook Post is a lie. Just look at the two libs who responded. Of course they’re mad. They’re mad trump lives in their head 24/7 year round.

Most of the country is mad right now, only an idiot wouldn’t be. Funding that feeds and provides medical care for impoverished children has been cut to insure enormous tax cuts for global corporations. The president and his minions brazenly lie to the public over and over and whine when the press holds them accountable. The White House insults and attempts to intimidate courageous law enforcement officials for doing their job effectively, while giving cover to bad cops who attack and in some cases murder minorities. Protected pristine national monuments are turned over to mining companies for defilement. And our closest allies are insulted and abandoned while despots and dictators are warmly embraced. Anyone with a lick of sense gets mad when their sewer backs up, and even madder when they realize their foolish neighbor deliberately clogged the pipes causing the problem.

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Dec 10, 2017 06:18:55   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
Trump mocked a disabled person but he did not mock the disability. He has mocked others in the same manner and they were not disabled. I think less of you for failing to recognize the difference.

So if I mock Sarah Palins mentally disabled son that's fine and dandy because I'm mocking her son and not mental retardation?

That you think that's acceptable in a presidential candidate only validates the conclusion reached in the meme.

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He did not advocate for war crimes. He advocated putting an end to terrorism in the only way meaningful to those who regard our lives and their own as disposable. I think less of you because you cannot distinguish worldly realities from childish Pollyannic fantasy.

When you say you will allow your military to engage in conduct that would result in a war crimes trial you are advocating for war crimes.

That you are blind to that only reinforces the meaning of the meme.

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He did not equate a woman's worth to her appearance. He referred in one case to a woman who has relentlessly attacked him publicly and in another case to a political competitor. He has treated both in as equals... something women have asked for, for decades. He treated them no differently than his male adversaries. I think less of you because you demand equality and damn those who grant it.

I guess I should ask why you would find mockery of any form acceptable but you are a conservative and without it most of you wouldn't be able to conduct an argument--certainly not Donald J Trump.

Again, you are doing nothing more than reinforcing the meme...

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No, we won't be coming together soon. What you call bullying, I see as the necessary deconstruction of the devastating scourge of political correctness. What you choose to call racism is the simple recognition that neither people nor cultures are universally guided by the same ambitions, motives and values. Your unwillingness or inability to grasp such simple, longstanding and eminently obvious concepts makes meaningful dialogue impossible. Frankly, I am tired of trying to reach you.

Well, destruct all you want but with approvals ratings under 40% you better destruct fast else you won't have another opportunity...

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Dec 10, 2017 06:30:21   #
PeterS
 
Weasel wrote:
Yes, these WINGNUTS do offer Great Intertainment I can't wait to see their final episode, which should be comming up right after Their New Years Resolutions

You have a president that is watching over an economy that is hitting on all cylinders yet he is still polling under 40%. Any other president and such a contradiction would be impossible--but not with Donald Trump. You have a party that is embracing pedophilia and the assaulting of women--not because you approve of them but because by doing so helps you retain political power. That Trumps numbers have only gone down even though the economy has gone up your embracing morally repugnant individuals purely for political expediency shows that the country has caught on to how crass republicans have become and the final episode with be republicans marching out the door...

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Dec 10, 2017 06:41:05   #
PeterS
 
Kevyn wrote:
Most of the country is mad right now, only an idiot wouldn’t be. Funding that feeds and provides medical care for impoverished children has been cut to insure enormous tax cuts for global corporations. The president and his minions brazenly lie to the public over and over and whine when the press holds them accountable. The White House insults and attempts to intimidate courageous law enforcement officials for doing their job effectively, while giving cover to bad cops who attack and in some cases murder minorities. Protected pristine national monuments are turned over to mining companies for defilement. And our closest allies are insulted and abandoned while despots and dictators are warmly embraced. Anyone with a lick of sense gets mad when their sewer backs up, and even madder when they realize their foolish neighbor deliberately clogged the pipes causing the problem.
Most of the country is mad right now, only an idio... (show quote)

The thing is, Trumps numbers have continued to hover in the thirty percentiles yet conservatives think the majority of the population loves him and everything is just fine. There is a core group of republicans who are so dense that one of the rocket mans rockets couldn't get through to them. I have been participating in debates on message boards since 2000 and our conservative friends have only became more rigid and resistant to change and they honestly view it as their best attribute. In the early 2000's you could at least carry on a debate with them whereas now it starts out with a string of ad hominem attacks and ends up the same--at no time in the exchange is any rationality displayed. Even their best debater, Loki, can't stay away from them so when your best and brightest debates like a rock it doesn't say much for the rest of them.

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Dec 10, 2017 08:21:22   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
PeterS wrote:
The thing is, Trumps numbers have continued to hover in the thirty percentiles yet conservatives think the majority of the population loves him and everything is just fine. There is a core group of republicans who are so dense that one of the rocket mans rockets couldn't get through to them. I have been participating in debates on message boards since 2000 and our conservative friends have only became more rigid and resistant to change and they honestly view it as their best attribute. In the early 2000's you could at least carry on a debate with them whereas now it starts out with a string of ad hominem attacks and ends up the same--at no time in the exchange is any rationality displayed. Even their best debater, Loki, can't stay away from them so when your best and brightest debates like a rock it doesn't say much for the rest of them.
The thing is, Trumps numbers have continued to hov... (show quote)



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Dec 10, 2017 08:41:48   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
Didn't you read the meme? Accepting Trump has never been the problem. Accepting that we share a country with people who would vote for him is and will always be the problem.

Actually, accepting responsibility for your own actions, rather than blaming it on society; forcing your own idea of "equality and diversity" down everyone's throat by government edict; and having your entire world micromanaged by some faceless, unaccountable bureaucrat is your problem.

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Dec 10, 2017 09:18:53   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, but there is a whole shitload of right wingers who haven' got the slightest clue in the world. And since you have the floor name a single lie that was repeated?


Obama is a good man who cares about white people.

Our wonderful President Donald J Trump got elected by Putin.

There's two for you..

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Dec 10, 2017 09:35:35   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
Actually, accepting responsibility for your own actions, rather than blaming it on society; forcing your own idea of "equality and diversity" down everyone's throat by government edict; and having your entire world micromanaged by some faceless, unaccountable bureaucrat is your problem.


Loki, there was a time when I thought conservatives stood for something. Now all you stand for is an attempt to grab and hold onto power. You don't care who you elect just so who you elect will help you achieve and keep power. You don't care what someone might stand accused of--even if you have a tape where he boasts of doing exactly what his accusers say he did! So if you want to sit there and throw darts you go right ahead. I would support a bureaucrat over a theist any day of the week and the only area's where we are supporting equality and diversity is for the rights of those in the gay community where theists are trying to tell everyone how we are suppose to believe and behave and if not for push back from liberals they would happily legislate their moral views over ALL of us.

So you go ahead and tell everyone how responsible you are but if you guys are so responsible why is it you blame every problem in the world on liberals? If I didn't know better I would think that you believe your shit doesn't stink. Well, I hate to tell you L-man but it smells just as bad as anyone elses...

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Dec 10, 2017 09:41:10   #
PeterS
 
byronglimish wrote:
Obama is a good man who cares about white people.

Our wonderful President Donald J Trump got elected by Putin.

There's two for you..


Trump got elected by a total of 78,000 votes spread over 4 states and in two state he was elected by fewer than 12,000 votes. If only half of what Putin is accused of doing is true then he got Trump elected--the math simply doesn't lie. Obama is a good man and doesn't care about what color you are. That white racists on the right can't stand him is a story about them not Obama...

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Dec 10, 2017 09:42:13   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
This was on my facebook feed. I think it hits the nail on the head...


Did it come with a picture of a pot, and kettle?

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Dec 10, 2017 09:51:15   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You're are saying Putin voted multiple times? That makes him a Democrat.
PeterS wrote:
Trump got elected by a total of 78,000 votes spread over 4 states and in two state he was elected by fewer than 12,000 votes. If only half of what Putin is accused of doing is true then he got Trump elected--the math simply doesn't lie. Obama is a good man and doesn't care about what color you are. That white racists on the right can't stand him is a story about them not Obama...

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Dec 10, 2017 10:03:58   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You really don't care who contacted Russians do you?
1). Former AG Bruce Ohr was stripped of that title when his superiors discovered he had meetings last year with two controversial figures: Glenn Simpson, founder of opposition research firm Fusion GPS, and Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence officer who authored the infamous and largely discredited “Trump Dossier.”

2). The firm was hired and the dossier was commissioned jointly by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

3). Ohr’s demotion came fast on the heels of FBI agent and counterintelligence expert Peter Strzok’s removal from Mueller’s team. He was reassigned to the FBI’s human resources department after numerous text messages he’d written that were critical of Trump were discovered.

4). Strzok signed the document that started the entire Russian investigation.

5). Strzok’s team was assigned to handle the “dossier” when it was first given to the FBI. And, Strzok oversaw the interview of former national security advisor Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. And he played a key role in the [Hillary] Clinton email investigation.

6). Stezok's was also present when Clinton was interviewed by the FBI — an interview that took place without Hillary being under oath.

7). Another Mueller investigator was invited to and attended Hillary Clinton's election Party.

Here's my point. You are nothing but a hypocrite yet accuse everyone else. Trump, Moore, any othe Republican is guilty of sexual assault, Russian collusion or any other accusation your side can bring with out actual proof of the deed. Using your own parameters looks like the Mueller team and the DNC, along with Hillary paid the Russians to interfere in the election. You are one dishonest poster.

PeterS wrote:
Trump got elected by a total of 78,000 votes spread over 4 states and in two state he was elected by fewer than 12,000 votes. If only half of what Putin is accused of doing is true then he got Trump elected--the math simply doesn't lie. Obama is a good man and doesn't care about what color you are. That white racists on the right can't stand him is a story about them not Obama...

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Dec 10, 2017 10:26:10   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
You really don't care who contacted Russians do you?
1). Former AG Bruce Ohr was stripped of that title when his superiors discovered he had meetings last year with two controversial figures: Glenn Simpson, founder of opposition research firm Fusion GPS, and Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence officer who authored the infamous and largely discredited “Trump Dossier.”

2). The firm was hired and the dossier was commissioned jointly by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

3). Ohr’s demotion came fast on the heels of FBI agent and counterintelligence expert Peter Strzok’s removal from Mueller’s team. He was reassigned to the FBI’s human resources department after numerous text messages he’d written that were critical of Trump were discovered.

4). Strzok signed the document that started the entire Russian investigation.

5). Strzok’s team was assigned to handle the “dossier” when it was first given to the FBI. And, Strzok oversaw the interview of former national security advisor Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. And he played a key role in the [Hillary] Clinton email investigation.

6). Stezok's was also present when Clinton was interviewed by the FBI — an interview that took place without Hillary being under oath.

7). Another Mueller investigator was invited to and attended Hillary Clinton's election Party.

Here's my point. You are nothing but a hypocrite yet accuse everyone else. Trump, Moore, any othe Republican is guilty of sexual assault, Russian collusion or any other accusation your side can bring with out actual proof of the deed. Using your own parameters looks like the Mueller team and the DNC, along with Hillary paid the Russians to interfere in the election. You are one dishonest poster.
You really don't care who contacted Russians do yo... (show quote)


He just can't accept the fact that the Russians, FBI, and cheating DNC couldn't even bring that hag across home plate, so, like the rest, he's trying to flip their own tactics onto the Republicans.

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