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Dec 9, 2017 08:42:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
"But the military’s job -- to take back the land ISIS claimed as its caliphate and liberate cities like Mosul, in Iraq, and Raqqa, in Syria, as well as countless smaller cities and villages, is largely done. And it has taken less than a year".

How? Easy: “The leadership team that is in place right now has certainly enabled us to succeed,” Brig. Gen. Andrew Croft, the ranking U.S. Air Force officer in Iraq, told Fox News. “I couldn’t ask for a better leadership team to work for, to enable the military to do what it does best.”

"President Trump gave a free hand to Mattis, who in May stressed military commanders were no longer being slowed by Washington “decision cycles,” or by the White House micromanaging that existed [under] President Obama. As a result of the new approach, the fall of ISIS in Iraq came even more swiftly than hardened U.S. military leaders expected".

It's called winning. Get used to it.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/08/trump-mattis-turn-military-loose-on-isis-leaving-terror-caliphate-in-tatters.html
"But the military’s job -- to take back the l... (show quote)


When you have a President that wants success you get success of our elite military..
Stark difference than the last one that never wanted success and was only giving a show to keep his true mission in check!! The demise of our country!!

When you see this you then wonder how many of our men that SOB sent to their death because he would not let our military do as they do so well!!

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Dec 9, 2017 11:40:05   #
SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan
 
Or really bad for those who profit from war

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Dec 9, 2017 11:51:12   #
Homestead
 
Hemiman wrote:
So you are saying that Obama's suggestion to attack them with cotton balls didn't work ?


Actually, he attacked them with apologies.

And no, it didn't work.

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Dec 9, 2017 13:35:47   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Texas Truth wrote:
Dude that is awesome! Which reminds me of a saying that I heard. Don't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell everybody how bad you suck at yours.


I love a good snappy come back...:)

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Dec 9, 2017 14:29:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Peewee wrote:
I love a good snappy come back...:)




Yes, trump did a good thing.. Let the military keep using the same strategy as they did in the past 2 plus years.. Worked very well..

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Dec 9, 2017 14:47:29   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, trump did a good thing.. Let the military keep using the same strategy as they did in the past 2 plus years.. Worked very well..


How do you know what Bo did other than nothing and giving stand down orders or firing certain well established Generals??

Tell us, please, how you know about that strategy will you??

How do you know what Trumps strategy is other then the obvious, not pussyfoot around and goin in!!

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Dec 9, 2017 14:55:06   #
maryjane
 
Good. Get it all done and, then, the USA needs to get out of the middle east totally. We simply must stop trying to police the world, and unless directly affecting our nation, stop meddling in the business of other countries. When I read about Mexico interfering in a legal suit in one of our border states related to Mexican illegal aliens, I was furious. That corrupt country needs to stay out of our business, but so should we stay out of the business of other nations. Our government leaders NEED to be paying attention to our business, of which they are doing a lousy job.

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Dec 9, 2017 14:57:20   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, trump did a good thing.. Let the military keep using the same strategy as they did in the past 2 plus years.. Worked very well..

Hahaha... You are ate up with Obama....

Do you agree it was Obama's fault that ISIS became as powerful as they were? And that Obama should have listened to military experts and not announced a preemptive retreat?

(Yes, this is an honest test.)

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Dec 9, 2017 15:05:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
lindajoy wrote:
How do you know what Bo did other than nothing and giving stand down orders or firing certain well established Generals??

Tell us, please, how you know about that strategy will you??

How do you know what Trumps strategy is other then the obvious, not pussyfoot around and goin in!!




Obama and the military set the strategy to have the US and coalitions bomb the ISIS strong holds while used ME troops to handle the ground attacks..

This was successful and followed to the end.

trump removed himself and civilians from the mix and let the military handle local timing..

That was good, with him and others out of the mix, the military moved more swiftly then was expected and the collapse of ISIS was weeks ahead of projection date..


ttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/07/trump-takes-credit-isis-defeats-does-he-deserve/931657001/

Nothing President Trump did or authorized was a fundamental game changer in the counter-ISIS strategy,” said Jennifer Cafarella, an analyst at the Institute for the Study of War.


The Obama strategy was designed to support local ground forces in Iraq and Syria with coalition air power, advisers and training. American ground forces are not engaged in direct combat with the terror group.

The United States has deployed about 5,200 troops to Iraq and 2,000 in Syria. Most are serving in advisory or training roles.

More: ISIS 'capital' Raqqa falls to U.S.-backed forces. What it means for terror group's future

More: Forces in Iraq, Syria will need U.S. help long after ISIS is gone, top commander says

The overall strategy hasn’t changed, but Trump’s decision to give field commanders more decision-making authority has accelerated the pace of the campaign, analysts said.

In the past year, ISIS has been driven from Raqqa, its de facto capital in Syria, and from Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest city.

The Islamic State has lost most major towns and cities it once controlled, and the remnants are clinging to a string of towns and villages on the Euphrates River stretching between Iraq and Syria.

About 3,000 militants are left in Iraq and Syria, down from a peak of more than 25,000 in 2014 and 2015.

Trump “delegated authority to the right level to aggressively and in a timely manner move against enemy vulnerabilities,” Mattis said earlier this year in explaining the president's changes.

Analysts say the new authorities have allowed commanders to move more quickly to seize the initiative on battles. The Pentagon said it still vets requests for airstrikes carefully, but commanders closer to the battle can now approve those strikes.

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Dec 9, 2017 15:14:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
Hahaha... You are ate up with Obama....

Do you agree it was Obama's fault that ISIS became as powerful as they were? And that Obama should have listened to military experts and not announced a preemptive retreat?

(Yes, this is an honest test.)




No... I do blame the Military advisers for over estimatiing the Iraq army.. They should have know that those troops would not fight.. rather, they counted on those troops to prevent the very uprising the captured the equipment and supplies which made ISIS a major force in the ME..

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Dec 9, 2017 15:22:45   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
permafrost wrote:
Obama and the military set the strategy to have the US and coalitions bomb the ISIS strong holds while used ME troops to handle the ground attacks..

This was successful and followed to the end.

trump removed himself and civilians from the mix and let the military handle local timing..

That was good, with him and others out of the mix, the military moved more swiftly then was expected and the collapse of ISIS was weeks ahead of projection date..


ttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/07/trump-takes-credit-isis-defeats-does-he-deserve/931657001/

Nothing President Trump did or authorized was a fundamental game changer in the counter-ISIS strategy,” said Jennifer Cafarella, an analyst at the Institute for the Study of War.


The Obama strategy was designed to support local ground forces in Iraq and Syria with coalition air power, advisers and training. American ground forces are not engaged in direct combat with the terror group.

The United States has deployed about 5,200 troops to Iraq and 2,000 in Syria. Most are serving in advisory or training roles.

More: ISIS 'capital' Raqqa falls to U.S.-backed forces. What it means for terror group's future

More: Forces in Iraq, Syria will need U.S. help long after ISIS is gone, top commander says

The overall strategy hasn’t changed, but Trump’s decision to give field commanders more decision-making authority has accelerated the pace of the campaign, analysts said.

In the past year, ISIS has been driven from Raqqa, its de facto capital in Syria, and from Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest city.

The Islamic State has lost most major towns and cities it once controlled, and the remnants are clinging to a string of towns and villages on the Euphrates River stretching between Iraq and Syria.

About 3,000 militants are left in Iraq and Syria, down from a peak of more than 25,000 in 2014 and 2015.

Trump “delegated authority to the right level to aggressively and in a timely manner move against enemy vulnerabilities,” Mattis said earlier this year in explaining the president's changes.

Analysts say the new authorities have allowed commanders to move more quickly to seize the initiative on battles. The Pentagon said it still vets requests for airstrikes carefully, but commanders closer to the battle can now approve those strikes.
Obama and the military set the strategy to have th... (show quote)


Thank You, an interesting article that could have simply said: Eight years under Obama and nothing accomplished other than ISIS..
Eleven months under Trump and ISIS, along with Islamist terrorist almost eradicated..

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Dec 9, 2017 15:30:19   #
boatbob2
 
IF,We had,had a POTUS,like Donald,AND,a SECRETARY OF DEFENCE,like Mad Dog,Vietnam would have turned out,much different than it did.... The politicians cost America,over 55,000 young men and women..

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Dec 9, 2017 16:43:57   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
What stands out to me is their surprise at how successful they are when left to just 'get on with it'. They were achieving in days what had been projected to take months. Reminds me of the poster I have behind my desk:


Great poster.

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Dec 9, 2017 16:53:02   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
permafrost wrote:
Obama and the military set the strategy to have the US and coalitions bomb the ISIS strong holds while used ME troops to handle the ground attacks..

This was successful and followed to the end.

trump removed himself and civilians from the mix and let the military handle local timing..

That was good, with him and others out of the mix, the military moved more swiftly then was expected and the collapse of ISIS was weeks ahead of projection date..


ttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/07/trump-takes-credit-isis-defeats-does-he-deserve/931657001/

Nothing President Trump did or authorized was a fundamental game changer in the counter-ISIS strategy,” said Jennifer Cafarella, an analyst at the Institute for the Study of War.


The Obama strategy was designed to support local ground forces in Iraq and Syria with coalition air power, advisers and training. American ground forces are not engaged in direct combat with the terror group.

The United States has deployed about 5,200 troops to Iraq and 2,000 in Syria. Most are serving in advisory or training roles.

More: ISIS 'capital' Raqqa falls to U.S.-backed forces. What it means for terror group's future

More: Forces in Iraq, Syria will need U.S. help long after ISIS is gone, top commander says

The overall strategy hasn’t changed, but Trump’s decision to give field commanders more decision-making authority has accelerated the pace of the campaign, analysts said.

In the past year, ISIS has been driven from Raqqa, its de facto capital in Syria, and from Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest city.

The Islamic State has lost most major towns and cities it once controlled, and the remnants are clinging to a string of towns and villages on the Euphrates River stretching between Iraq and Syria.

About 3,000 militants are left in Iraq and Syria, down from a peak of more than 25,000 in 2014 and 2015.

Trump “delegated authority to the right level to aggressively and in a timely manner move against enemy vulnerabilities,” Mattis said earlier this year in explaining the president's changes.

Analysts say the new authorities have allowed commanders to move more quickly to seize the initiative on battles. The Pentagon said it still vets requests for airstrikes carefully, but commanders closer to the battle can now approve those strikes.
Obama and the military set the strategy to have th... (show quote)


But forget he left orders that no airstrikes should have the possibility of injuring even one civilian. No airstrikes could be called in to help the soldiers under attack by the insurgents. That caused many more of our troops to be killed, but watch for the civilian causalities. He did not have the best interests of our soldiers in mind.

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Dec 9, 2017 16:57:12   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
permafrost wrote:
No... I do blame the Military advisers for over estimatiing the Iraq army.. They should have know that those troops would not fight.. rather, they counted on those troops to prevent the very uprising the captured the equipment and supplies which made ISIS a major force in the ME..


Obama had the military advisers hands tied behind their backs. They could not do what was needed unless ordered by Obama and he would not let the military take control of the situation. That is why our equipment was captured by ISIS.

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