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They Socialized Everything In Venezuela, Now Nothing 'Works'.
Nov 28, 2017 20:55:58   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
"In a country beset by shortages, this is one of the hardest: the disappearance of contraceptives". Imagine this; you can't even afford to feed yourself and your wife gives you the old 'guess what, honey, I'm pregnant' routine. What do you do? Freeze on the spot? Start pulling your hair out? Rob a bank? Hell, rob 5 banks? That is a problem beyond my limited comprehension. Or similarly, you find out you contracted an STD. With the total dearth of such basic medicines as penicillin, it just might kill you, after your pecker falls off of course. It's happening right now, and not too far away:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/even-sex-is-in-crisis-in-venezuela-where-contraceptives-are-growing-scarce/2017/11/27/5d970d86-b452-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.3d348604b62c

Ahh, the wonders of socialism.

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Nov 28, 2017 21:21:08   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
"In a country beset by shortages, this is one of the hardest: the disappearance of contraceptives". Imagine this; you can't even afford to feed yourself and your wife gives you the old 'guess what, honey, I'm pregnant' routine. What do you do? Freeze on the spot? Start pulling your hair out? Rob a bank? Hell, rob 5 banks? That is a problem beyond my limited comprehension. Or similarly, you find out you contracted an STD. With the total dearth of such basic medicines as penicillin, it just might kill you, after your pecker falls off of course. It's happening right now, and not too far away:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/even-sex-is-in-crisis-in-venezuela-where-contraceptives-are-growing-scarce/2017/11/27/5d970d86-b452-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.3d348604b62c

Ahh, the wonders of socialism.
"In a country beset by shortages, this is one... (show quote)


This is the greatest analogy of Obama's Failure, But he did Fundamentally Change Their World. I am surprised he is still alive after that one. I thought one of their Hit Squads would have taken him out by now. He may still be under their watchful eye just waiting for the right time.
There are numerous examples of this thing called Liberalism, just look at Detroit Michigan, Illinois, and so on.
The bottom line is we are pulling in the reigns on this disease and if we could get Nasty Nancy, and Crying Chuck Schumer out of the way we could move at a much quicker pace.
Keep the Faith Bro!


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Nov 28, 2017 21:27:20   #
tom25411 Loc: WV
 
Couples wouldn't have to worry about birth control if they simply practiced anal sex..... I know, in a few occasions this practice has resulted in an unwanted pregnancy resulting in the birth of liberal democrats --- that got them into this mess in the first place. However it might e worth a try.

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Nov 28, 2017 21:29:38   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
tom25411 wrote:
Couples wouldn't have to worry about birth control if they simply practiced anal sex..... I know, in a few occasions this practice has resulted in an unwanted pregnancy resulting in the birth of liberal democrats --- that got them into this mess in the first place. However it might e worth a try.


I'll, uh, pass it on. I think.....

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Nov 28, 2017 22:32:55   #
moldyoldy
 
You guys never seem to blame decades of sanctions for the destruction.

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Nov 29, 2017 02:38:20   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
"In a country beset by shortages, this is one of the hardest: the disappearance of contraceptives". Imagine this; you can't even afford to feed yourself and your wife gives you the old 'guess what, honey, I'm pregnant' routine. What do you do? Freeze on the spot? Start pulling your hair out? Rob a bank? Hell, rob 5 banks? That is a problem beyond my limited comprehension. Or similarly, you find out you contracted an STD. With the total dearth of such basic medicines as penicillin, it just might kill you, after your pecker falls off of course. It's happening right now, and not too far away:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/even-sex-is-in-crisis-in-venezuela-where-contraceptives-are-growing-scarce/2017/11/27/5d970d86-b452-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.3d348604b62c

Ahh, the wonders of socialism.
"In a country beset by shortages, this is one... (show quote)

And Dems want socialism here in America???I hope it never happens here!!! For sure we are saved for at least next 7yrs while our President still here...

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Nov 29, 2017 05:59:30   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
And Dems want socialism here in America???I hope it never happens here!!! For sure we are saved for at least next 7yrs while our President still here...
He will be lucky to hold on for 7 months.

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Nov 29, 2017 07:30:50   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You guys never seem to blame decades of sanctions for the destruction.


'Sanctions'? What 'sanctions'? As far as I know, there are no active sanctions against the people of Venezuela nor have there ever been. The top import origins of Venezuela are the United States ($8.07B), China ($5.31B), Brazil ($2.99B), Argentina ($1.37B) and Mexico ($1.22B); and the top export destinations are the United States ($14.6B), China ($6.07B), India ($5.82B), Singapore ($1.61B) and Switzerland ($887M), as of 2015, the latest year for which data are available. In that year, Venezuela actually had a trade surplus with the US of over $6.5B. That's $6.5B of 'other peoples' money' to fritter away on their socialist controls and programs. Here, see for yourself:

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/ven/

So tell me again about these 'sanctions' and how they brought about the destruction of Venezuelan socialism. I believe you have been misled into believing that the 'Evil Empire' somehow made socialism fail under its own shortcomings - again. This is clearly not so, since there have been no sanctions. Find some other 'phenomenon' to blame. I'll wait.

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Nov 29, 2017 08:56:10   #
moldyoldy
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
'Sanctions'? What 'sanctions'? As far as I know, there are no active sanctions against the people of Venezuela nor have there ever been. The top import origins of Venezuela are the United States ($8.07B), China ($5.31B), Brazil ($2.99B), Argentina ($1.37B) and Mexico ($1.22B); and the top export destinations are the United States ($14.6B), China ($6.07B), India ($5.82B), Singapore ($1.61B) and Switzerland ($887M), as of 2015, the latest year for which data are available. In that year, Venezuela actually had a trade surplus with the US of over $6.5B. That's $6.5B of 'other peoples' money' to fritter away on their socialist controls and programs. Here, see for yourself:

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/ven/

So tell me again about these 'sanctions' and how they brought about the destruction of Venezuelan socialism. I believe you have been misled into believing that the 'Evil Empire' somehow made socialism fail under its own shortcomings - again. This is clearly not so, since there have been no sanctions. Find some other 'phenomenon' to blame. I'll wait.
'Sanctions'? What 'sanctions'? As far as I know,... (show quote)




Interesting history of sanctions and intrigue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Venezuela_relations

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Nov 29, 2017 12:03:23   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
He will be lucky to hold on for 7 months.


You said something like that over a year ago.

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Nov 29, 2017 13:06:30   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
moldyoldy wrote:


OK, I went through that wiki about 5 times and I can find no mention of economic sanctions against the people of Venezuela. Here's what I did find:

"On September 15, 2005, President Bush designated Venezuela as a country that has "failed demonstrably during the previous 12 months to adhere to their obligations under international counternarcotics agreements." However, at the same time, the President waived the economic sanctions that would normally accompany such a designation, because they would have curtailed his government's assistance for democracy programs in Venezuela." Sanctions were waived, ergo, no sanctions.

"On May 28, 2014, the United States House of Representatives passed the Venezuelan Human Rights and Democracy Protection Act (H.R. 4587; 113th Congress), a bill that would apply economic sanctions against Venezuelan officials who were involved in the mistreatment of protestors during the 2014 Venezuelan protests." These sanctions were against individual officials, not the Venezuelan people.

"On March 9, 2015, the United States President, Barack Obama, signed and issued a presidential order declaring Venezuela a threat to its national security and ordered sanctions against seven Venezuelan officials." Again, sanctions against individual officials, not the Venezuelan people.

That's it. Besides the bibliography, these are the only mentions of sanctions, and none of them are in any way sweeping enough to affect the Venezuelan economic disaster as it stands. They're all against certain individuals, not the economy in general. As for 'intrigue', when was the last political interaction you heard of that didn't have the flavor of intrigue?

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Nov 29, 2017 13:18:37   #
moldyoldy
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
OK, I went through that wiki about 5 times and I can find no mention of economic sanctions against the people of Venezuela. Here's what I did find:

"On September 15, 2005, President Bush designated Venezuela as a country that has "failed demonstrably during the previous 12 months to adhere to their obligations under international counternarcotics agreements." However, at the same time, the President waived the economic sanctions that would normally accompany such a designation, because they would have curtailed his government's assistance for democracy programs in Venezuela." Sanctions were waived, ergo, no sanctions.

"On May 28, 2014, the United States House of Representatives passed the Venezuelan Human Rights and Democracy Protection Act (H.R. 4587; 113th Congress), a bill that would apply economic sanctions against Venezuelan officials who were involved in the mistreatment of protestors during the 2014 Venezuelan protests." These sanctions were against individual officials, not the Venezuelan people.

"On March 9, 2015, the United States President, Barack Obama, signed and issued a presidential order declaring Venezuela a threat to its national security and ordered sanctions against seven Venezuelan officials." Again, sanctions against individual officials, not the Venezuelan people.

That's it. Besides the bibliography, these are the only mentions of sanctions, and none of them are in any way sweeping enough to affect the Venezuelan economic disaster as it stands. They're all against certain individuals, not the economy in general. As for 'intrigue', when was the last political interaction you heard of that didn't have the flavor of intrigue?
OK, I went through that wiki about 5 times and I c... (show quote)


The US nuanced their sanctions because they still wanted the oil, but condemned everything else.

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Nov 29, 2017 16:23:59   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The US nuanced their sanctions because they still wanted the oil, but condemned everything else.


Aaaand, there it is. It's always about the oil. Well, glad you were able to enlighten us on that. 'Preciate your input, there, um, well, yeah, thanks.....

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Nov 30, 2017 09:04:04   #
Kevyn
 
archie bunker wrote:
You said something like that over a year ago.

Watergate from the first arrest to Nixon’s resignation took from June 17,1972 to August 9,1974 a little under two years and two months. The wheels of justice turn slowly and patience is required, but rest assured Muellers case will be air tight.

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