Loki Loc: Georgia

Today, in the year 1095 AD, Pope Urban proclaimed the First Crusade.
The First Crusade is perhaps the most misunderstood of them all. While retaking the "Holy Land" from the Muslim Turks was the justification for this undertaking, in reality the motives were more secular. Politically it was a concentration of power in the Papacy, by forging an alliance of powerful nobility and royalty to support Urban in his other endeavors. Militarily it was a response to more than four hundred years of Muslim aggression against Europe. While a great deal of egregious murder, rapine and plundering of innocents certainly occurred during the course of the Crusade, it's not like it didn't happen anyway; just on a somewhat smaller scale.
The event which seems to have provided the excuse, or catalyst, or whatever was a request from Byzantine Emperor Alexius I for aid against the Turks. Urban appears to have seen this as an opportunity to form alliances with powerful nobility whose support he needed. Plunder and politics and punitive retaliation were more the impetus of the First Crusade than the religious reasons given.

okie don

That was some 400 years before Columbus 'sailed the ocean blue in 1492' huh!(:

Loki Loc: Georgia

'Purt near. Besides Vikings, fishermen from both Ireland and France had been sailing that same Ocean blue for at least 500 years. There have been remains located in Massachusetts dating back to around 900 AD. A place near Boston called Damariscove. Hell, 3000 years ago the Phoenicians had ships capable of crossing the Atlantic, and the Phoenicians were damn good sailors.

pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ

Your so right ! What history speaks somewhat lightly is the fact that the 'Church' of Rome was in bed with the 'powers that be' whose sole purpose was to unilaterally have control of the regular folks.

okie don

Yep, the Vikings we're here long before Columbus. From what I've read 'Cristobal Columbo' changed his name to Christopher Columbus and convience Queen Isabel and King Ferdinand

okie don

To finance his voyages promising to bring much gold /silver back to Spain if they would finance his voyages. This was during the Spanish Inquisition when Catholics we're burning the Jews at the stake.

okie don

He made many trips to South America, killed and plundered those natives, stole their gold etc and hauled it back to Spain. You probably know all about what he did Loki.

okie don

Of course we we're 'told' he was some kind of 'HERO' and ' Discovered America's.Total BS from my research.

Loki Loc: Georgia

There is credible evidence that Irish and French fishermen were here before the Vikings. If you look at a map of the route a sailing vessel would take, from Ireland to Canada is rarely more than a week at sea between landfalls. It is not surprising that there are no written records, considering how rare literacy was for most of history. Written records need literate people to write them and read them. Being able to read the ocean and the stars is it's own kind of literacy.

okie don

He transported many Jews to South America so they wouldn't be ' burned at the stake during the Spanish Inqusition in Spain. We really " don't know, what we don't know" to use Einstein's famous quote...(:

Loki Loc: Georgia

To be fair, the Inquisition wasn't the least bit bashful about roast Goyim, either.

pafret Loc: Northeast

The Church in Rome was the "powers that be". They became the "power" on December 25th, 800 AD, when Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne, king of the Franks, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. It is implicit that the power to grant temporal preminence implies the ability to take it away. 1095 was a scant 300 years from that date.

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

We know the history, what is your point ?

Loki Loc: Georgia

A great many people don't know the history. Hell, a lot of people don't know ANY history. It's trivia.

pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ

Give them a break! At least they know where the crapper is, or do they?