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Nov 30, 2017 08:58:01   #
Singularity
 
PeterS wrote:
Nature is my source for what I perceive as spiritual and when I end nature will inspire someone else and yes I was an accident, had my mother been allowed anywhere near birth control I wouldn't be here today. As for a soul, no, like god that's a human construct because they can't accept being mortal. As for our emotions, Singularity would be better qualified to tell you where they originate. I imagine they are chemical but I couldn't explain it exactly. As for light, the definition is: electromagnetic radiation of a wavelength that is visible to the human eye (about 400–700 nm), or up to. 380–750 nm.[1] In the broader field of physics, light is sometimes used to refer to electromagnetic radiation of all wavelengths, whether visible or not. Again, Singularity is better qualified to explain anything scientific. As for whether I exist, I'm pretty sure I exist but because I do doesn't mean there must be a god...
Nature is my source for what I perceive as spiritu... (show quote)


Not many here are really interested in scientific explanations. I have found that offering them upon request only serves to infuriate them, unleashing further excoriating ad hominems.

There is a war on superstitious beliefs including the religious, but not in the way these guys understand it. Progress marches on, in science and technology, and the insistance on adherence to ancient beliefs and religious strictures leaves many at odds with actual present day reality.

The cartoon, while snarky, does capture the root of some of that fear.



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Nov 30, 2017 09:07:58   #
Singularity
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
I'm going to leave one last statement on this thread. You don't have to go to heaven, but you can't stay here.

PLT Sarge,

The sad truth, my friend, is that none of us can remain alive on earth forever. We all die and that is the end for us. My constituent parts will hang around awhile or fly off on new adventures that "I" won't be part of.

Simple Gifts. I thank you for reminding me of the song I left for you to hear the other day. It is a beautiful sentiment performed by a couple of amazing artists.

I'm sure we will see one another around for at least a little while longer.

Lovingkindness,
Singularity

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Nov 30, 2017 09:10:38   #
Singularity
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Yep; just give poly-wogs and a whole lot of time, and they will build computers and design microchips.


History does repeat itself...

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Nov 30, 2017 09:13:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Singularity wrote:
Not many here are really interested in scientific explanations. I have found that offering them upon request only serves to infuriate them, unleashing further excoriating ad hominems.

There is a war on superstitious beliefs including the religious, but not in the way these guys understand it. Progress marches on, in science and technology, and the insistance on adherence to ancient beliefs and religious strictures leaves many at odds with actual present day reality.

The cartoon, while snarky, does capture the root of some of that fear.
Not many here are really interested in scientific ... (show quote)


http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/11/30/t1-322513-t_2015_03_14_at_8_08_32_pm.jpg

Christians that actually study or have scholarly pastors/churches are aware that the Earth is millions if not billions of years in the making.
They would be aware that the Bible only covers approximately 6,000 years.

Adam and Eve on. The lineage and the prophesies of the coming of the Messiah/Christ. The lineage of the different peoples is also covered.

For example;
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie;
behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Matthew 7:18 - A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.

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Nov 30, 2017 09:39:34   #
Singularity
 
eagleye13 wrote:
http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/11/30/t1-322513-t_2015_03_14_at_8_08_32_pm.jpg

Christians that actually study or have scholarly pastors/churches are aware that the Earth is millions if not billions of years in the making.
They would be aware that the Bible only covers approximately 6,000 years.

Adam and Eve on. The lineage and the prophesies of the coming of the Messiah/Christ. The lineage of the different peoples is also covered.

For example;
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie;
behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Matthew 7:18 - A good tree can't produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit.
http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/11... (show quote)


Ok, so do you know why you are here? And why you can't stop?

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Nov 30, 2017 09:46:25   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Singularity wrote:
Ok, so do you know why you are here? And why you can't stop?


"Ok, so do you know why you are here? And why you can't stop?"

No blinders here.
How about you Singularity?
Is this all you got?
If so; That is a bit sad.

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Nov 30, 2017 09:56:00   #
Singularity
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Ok, so do you know why you are here? And why you can't stop?"

No blinders here.
How about you Singularity?
Is this all you got?
If so; That is a bit sad.


I am where I wish to be, doing what I wish to do.

You are still here. You keep making the same point, over and over. We have heard you out, offered our thoughts, you have rejected them.

What is left? Why are you keeping it going?

Why can't you stop?

I know why I am still here. What is in it for you?

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Nov 30, 2017 10:02:39   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Singularity wrote:
I am where I wish to be, doing what I wish to do.

You are still here. You keep making the same point, over and over. We have heard you out, offered our thoughts, you have rejected them.

What is left? Why are you keeping it going?

Why can't you stop?

I know why I am still here. What is in it for you?


"I am where I wish to be, doing what I wish to do.

You are still here. You keep making the same point, over and over. We have heard you out, offered our thoughts, you have rejected them.

What is left? Why are you keeping it going?

Why can't you stop?

I know why I am still here. What is in it for you?" - singularity

You put out what I consider BS, and I reply.
That is how it works here.
I am here to educate.
I figure you are a lost cause, but you continue to put out what I consider the blather of an unfortunate person.
You may actually harm those that give you credence.

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Nov 30, 2017 10:14:12   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"I am where I wish to be, doing what I wish to do.

You are still here. You keep making the same point, over and over. We have heard you out, offered our thoughts, you have rejected them.

What is left? Why are you keeping it going?

Why can't you stop?

I know why I am still here. What is in it for you?"

You put out what I consider BS, and I reply.
That is how it works here.
I am here to educate.
I figure you are a lost cause, but you continue to put out what I consider the blather of an unfortunate person.
You may actually harm those that give you credence.
"I am where I wish to be, doing what I wish t... (show quote)

While I find that many posters maintain varying combinations of veracity and b.s., I find that some maintain a higher level of the former than others. As such, with everyone's comments, I cut through the chaff and cling to what is of significance to me and set aside the rest for further thought. I do believe that, without harm, ALL contribute to whatever topic the discourse covers. In any discussion, one can only bring harm to themselves voluntarily through the duly/unduly allowed influence of others. Each of us makes our own decisions as to the path we follow. Too many OPP'ers likely decide (in their mind) that others too ignorant to align with their thoughts on any given matter are "a lost cause."

Such recourse reminds me of a quote attributed to Harry S. Truman..."I never did give anybody Hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was Hell."

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Nov 30, 2017 10:21:35   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
Singularity wrote:
Not many here are really interested in scientific explanations. I have found that offering them upon request only serves to infuriate them, unleashing further excoriating ad hominems.

There is a war on superstitious beliefs including the religious, but not in the way these guys understand it. Progress marches on, in science and technology, and the insistance on adherence to ancient beliefs and religious strictures leaves many at odds with actual present day reality.

The cartoon, while snarky, does capture the root of some of that fear.
Not many here are really interested in scientific ... (show quote)


There are many things that don't make sense to our finite minds. That being one of them, those who choose to believe the literal translation do so through faith. Faith in the end being the important factor. I believe such questions will one day be answered. In the meantime, it is mostly our children who will do the hiring, as they run the businesses.

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Nov 30, 2017 10:28:33   #
Singularity
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"I am where I wish to be, doing what I wish to do.

You are still here. You keep making the same point, over and over. We have heard you out, offered our thoughts, you have rejected them.

What is left? Why are you keeping it going?

Why can't you stop?

I know why I am still here. What is in it for you?"

You put out what I consider BS, and I reply.
That is how it works here.
I am here to educate.
I figure you are a lost cause, but you continue to put out what I consider the blather of an unfortunate person.
You may actually harm those that give you credence.
"I am where I wish to be, doing what I wish t... (show quote)

So is it your mission to follow me around everywhere, every second to correct everything and prevent my ideas from harming others?

How is that working out? You haven't convinced me to change my mind about anything.

You have destroyed credence in the notion you are a crusader for Christ by the sheer number and intensity of "sins" committed in this regard. You have been dishonest from the start, including the title of this thread. You have initiated numerous slanderous ad hominems and now are embroidering evil imagined false accusations of sexual infidelity with a married man and myself.

These are public sins of a grievious nature.

This avaricious endeavor of yours is hateful, vindictive and personal. There has been no semblance on your part of attempts to reach amity or build a bridge of friendship, with your rude greetings and hateful rejoinders.

Why? What does it profit you to lose credence in what you believe, jeopardizing that imagined soul, risking that hoped for heavenly reward?

Why are you still here, really?

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Nov 30, 2017 10:33:27   #
Singularity
 
Morning, Slatten49!

And a cold rainy one here in middle Tennessee. I've turned on the gas logs in the fireplace and am enjoying the morning with a biscuit and cuppa Joe.

How are things with you?

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Nov 30, 2017 10:47:24   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Singularity wrote:
Morning, Slatten49!

And a cold rainy one here in middle Tennessee. I've turned on the gas logs in the fireplace and am enjoying the morning with a biscuit and cuppa Joe.

How are things with you?

I'm doing okay, Sing, although I spent much of the last 36 hours dealing with my cousin's falling down in her backyard and breaking her hip, pelvic and femur bones. Her surgery yesterday late afternoon went very well, and she will soon begin her recovery therapy. I arrived back home mid-evening last night and got some much-needed rest. Always interesting to read the exchanges on this thread.

You may note that I had to go back and re-enter my post just above, as it did not take due to some screw-up of mine.

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Nov 30, 2017 10:58:40   #
Singularity
 
slatten49 wrote:
I'm doing okay, Sing, although I spent much of the last 36 hours dealing with my cousin's falling down in her backyard and breaking her hip, pelvic and femur bones. Her surgery yesterday late afternoon went very well, and she will soon begin her recovery therapy. I arrived back home mid-evening last night and got some much-needed rest. Always interesting to read the exchanges on this thread.

You may note that I had to go back and re-enter my post just above, as it did not take due to some screw-up of mine.
I'm doing okay, Sing, although I spent much of the... (show quote)


Best wishes for your cousins quick, and comfortable as possible, recovery! Glad to have you back!

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Nov 30, 2017 11:13:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
"You have initiated numerous slanderous ad hominems and now are embroidering evil imagined false accusations of sexual infidelity with a married man and myself." - singularity

When did I do that?
Please show where.

"You haven't convinced me to change my mind about anything."
Well surprise surprise.
Others can reflect on our positions, and our comments.

"Why are you still here, really?" - singularity
That was splained already.

Singularity wrote:
So is it your mission to follow me around everywhere, every second to correct everything and prevent my ideas from harming others?

How is that working out? You haven't convinced me to change my mind about anything.

You have destroyed credence in the notion you are a crusader for Christ by the sheer number and intensity of "sins" committed in this regard. You have been dishonest from the start, including the title of this thread. You have initiated numerous slanderous ad hominems and now are embroidering evil imagined false accusations of sexual infidelity with a married man and myself.

These are public sins of a grievious nature.

This avaricious endeavor of yours is hateful, vindictive and personal. There has been no semblance on your part of attempts to reach amity or build a bridge of friendship, with your rude greetings and hateful rejoinders.

Why? What does it profit you to lose credence in what you believe, jeopardizing that imagined soul, risking that hoped for heavenly reward?

Why are you still here, really?
So is it your mission to follow me around everywhe... (show quote)

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