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Nov 21, 2017 10:10:04   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Isn't Kathy Griffin... Gloria Allred's daughter? Think I read that somewhere.

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Nov 21, 2017 10:32:26   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
Morning llindajoy. How can McConnel call himself a leader when he condemns Moore who may or may not need condemned yet not a word about Democrat Franken? By the way, Franken's been a known pig for a long time. Minnesota must have one huge communal brain freeze going on. They've given us Ventura, Somali neighborhoods, Al Franken, and Permafrost. People there need to go South and thaw out for a while.


Candidly J, I really question all this going on the last couple weeks blaming with no facts so far to establish.. Just too damn coincidental for me.. and I mean that on both sides of the supposed rank Criminal Hill and elsewhere..

Something just isn’t right about it..
Appears the stories of Judge Moore are already unraveling and he has the lead back by 5 to 15% so I read..

I posted an article somewhere in here that says he tweeted : McConnell you step down!! Lololol loved it..

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Nov 21, 2017 11:19:43   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
This is a repeat... Moore is going to win!

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Nov 21, 2017 11:23:58   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
My problem with this mess is they condemn a guy like Moore who denies the allegations yet applaud a scum bag like Franken because he admits he's a scumbag and is going in front of an ethics committee full of his cronies.
lindajoy wrote:
Candidly J, I really question all this going on the last couple weeks blaming with no facts so far to establish.. Just too damn coincidental for me.. and I mean that on both sides of the supposed rank Criminal Hill and elsewhere..

Something just isn’t right about it..
Appears the stories of Judge Moore are already unraveling and he has the lead back by 5 to 15% so I read..

I posted an article somewhere in here that says he tweeted : McConnell you step down!! Lololol loved it..

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Nov 21, 2017 13:27:03   #
Nickolai
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Good Post. As I have said, Judge Moore will not carry Montgomery, Mobile, Huntsville or B'ham. He will take the rural vote. The counties. I'm from Alabama. We the common people that still work maybe not in the fields any more but in our gardens. If we have a good crop we give to our neighbors. We will not be told who we should vote for. No matter how much money, MITCH, you want to throw at us. Every year the Carnival would come around. Always at the end of the season when the Cotton was in. Because they knew some people had extra money and would be stupid enough to think they could win shooting moving objects with a rifle that wasn't theirs. DAH. The point I'm trying to make is that we the people of the great state of Alabama are shooting, but we are using our own rifles.
Good Post. As I have said, Judge Moore will not ca... (show quote)




In other words you would elect a pedophile over a democrat??

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Nov 21, 2017 13:29:27   #
Nickolai
 
lindajoy wrote:
Or Judge Moore’s standing in the community the last 30 years support him for it..

And Kevy if all these people now claiming Moore was as is alleged, why weren’t they offended then and why didn’t they call him out then?? If true then they are an accomplist to an immoral act and an enabler!!
And don’t come back and say they were afraid of his power..

They sure aren’t afraid to say it now ..






The times they are a changin

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Nov 21, 2017 13:36:20   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Shocker: Judge Roy Moore Opens Up 15 Point Lead After Accusers's Stories Fall Apart!
TIM BROWN

It looks like the establishment's dirty tactics backfired on them as US Senate candidate Judge Roy Moore has jumped 15 points in a PredictIt poll over his liberal Democrat challenger Doug Jones.

As accuser's stories are falling apart, and as well they should after they remained silent for nearly four decades, Gateway Pundit reported:

Via PredictIt:
Before the Washington Post story broke, Roy Moore was almost a lock to win at 89 percent in PredictIt’s Alabama Senate race prediction market. After the allegations surfaced, Moore’s odds dropped to 59 percent that day. He remained a slight favorite over Doug Jones, who also saw a significant bump on the news, until Monday when a fifth woman came forward with allegations against Moore.
On Monday afternoon, for the first time in the race, PredictIt traders had Doug Jones in the lead at 47 percent to Moore’s 38 percent.
Moore has since regained a huge lead in the PredictIt market.
As of Saturday afternoon Conservative Republican Roy Moore was back up on top of Doug Jones in the Alabama race.

** This comes after several of the accusations against Roy Moore have fallen apart.


Later, on Monday afternoon, the numbers changed even more drastically to show Moore had a 15 point lead over Jones.

Consider that Moore has denied the allegations and even bowed to Sean Hannity's ultimatum with reference to another allegation of a woman who claimed to know Moore.

I even have a man writing all sorts of people, including your's truly, about how Moore is guilty and that he should drop out of the race and cut a deal with the Alabama GOP and blah, blah, blah, comparing Moore to Ted Haggard, Jim Bakker, Bill Clinton and others, only there is absolutely no comparison when one looks for any sort of evidence of Moore's guilt, at least so far.

Anyone paying attention to what is actually coming out knows Moore's history in public service and they know he has paid a severe price on several occasions for standing on his principles to uphold the law, the Alabama state Constitution, and the US Constitution.

Keep your eyes open people of Alabama. The mainstream media and the establishment government Democrats and Republicans are trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Don't let them!

I'm sure this has kevyn, kemmer, perm, staten and bad bob extremely upset!
Shocker: Judge Roy Moore Opens Up 15 Point Lead Af... (show quote)


Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fox News: Jones leads Moore by 8 points in Alabama!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/16/fox-news-poll-jones-leads-moore-by-8-points-in-alabama-senate-race.html



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Nov 21, 2017 13:37:40   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Incorrect as usual!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/16/fox-news-poll-jones-leads-moore-by-8-points-in-alabama-senate-race.html




lindajoy wrote:
Candidly J, I really question all this going on the last couple weeks blaming with no facts so far to establish.. Just too damn coincidental for me.. and I mean that on both sides of the supposed rank Criminal Hill and elsewhere..

Something just isn’t right about it..
Appears the stories of Judge Moore are already unraveling and he has the lead back by 5 to 15% so I read..

I posted an article somewhere in here that says he tweeted : McConnell you step down!! Lololol loved it..
Candidly J, I really question all this going on th... (show quote)



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Nov 21, 2017 13:39:57   #
Nickolai
 
pafret wrote:
One of Moore's accusers has been caught in several signigficant lies, here is the latest skinny on that:

Beverly Young Nelson's stepson spoke up early and stated:

"one hundred percent a lie"
“I know for a fact that there is a lot that that woman does not tell the truth on,”
“Do I think that Beverly is trustworthy? No, I really don’t. Could I see her making it up? The odds are in that favor.”

The Judge Roy Moore for Senate campaign has released the following statement:

"Nelson Story Busted: Liberal Media Fails to Report the Truth"

"On Monday evening, the Moore Campaign unveiled statements from key witnesses that completely bust the story of Beverly Nelson and Gloria Allred and further reveal an unconscionable bias on the part of state and national press to hide the truth from Alabama voters who will undoubtedly see through the "fake news" and elect Judge Moore for the man that they have always known him to be.

According to a former waitress, Olde Hickory House required employees to be 16 years old. Nelson claims she was 15 when she started.

According to two former employees, the dumpsters were on the side of the building. Nelson claimed that they were in the back.

Olde Hickory House sat right off of the four-lane highway and had a wrap-around porch with lights all around it. Nelson claimed that the surroundings were "dark and isolated."

Rhonda Ledbetter, who worked at Olde Hickory House for almost 3 years, states that the earliest it closed was at 11 p.m. but she believes it was open until midnight. She is certain it did not close at 10:00 because Goodyear was next door, and employees came to eat when their shift ended at 10 p.m. Nelson claims her story occurred after the restaurant closed at 10 p.m.

It is unlikely that there was an entrance from the back of the parking lot, which Nelson claimed existed. Multiple sources have claimed that everyone parked on the sides of the building because there wasn’t much room behind the restaurant, according to Rhonda not enough room to turn around. Renee Schivera stated that a neighborhood backed up to the parking lot and it was adjacent to the backyards of people’s houses, so she did not see how there would have been a back entrance as it would have gone through someone’s yard.

Nelson claimed that Judge Roy Moore came in almost every night and sat at the counter, but former employees state that customers at the counter were served by the bartender or short order cook - not served by the waitresses and had no reason to interact with the wait staff. Additionally, two former waitresses and two former patrons state they never saw Judge Moore come into the restaurant.

These witnesses have shared their testimony with multiple news outlets. The outlets have failed to report.

Rhonda Ledbetter, a retired public school teacher who is currently the senior choir director at a Baptist church and teaches children at a local, church-sponsored day care center, was a waitress at Olde Hickory House for almost three years from 1977-1979. She was a college student at Jacksonville State University at the time and worked varying shifts at different times of day, multiple days a week during the time of her employment. She said in a statement: “When I heard Beverly Nelson’s story, there were several details that were different from what I remember. I was nervous at coming forward because of all the attention this story has gotten, but as a moral and ethical person I had to speak up about what I know to be true. I was a waitress at Olde Hickory for almost three years from 1977-1979, and I never saw Roy Moore come in to the restaurant. Not one time. And I would have noticed because most of our customers weren’t wearing suits, especially not at night. Many customers worked at Goodyear next door and would stop in on their way to and from work, and I don’t remember anyone from the courthouse coming in at all. That just wasn’t our crowd.

"A few things stuck out to me. First, Nelson said she was 15 years old when she started working there but you had to be 16. I don’t remember her from my time there, and I don’t remember any 15 year olds working there at all.

"Second, Nelson said the restaurant closed at 10 p.m. but I know the earliest it closed was 11, though I believe it was midnight. I’m certain of that because Goodyear employees came in to eat after their shift ended at 10:00 p.m., so there’s no way we would have closed at that time.

"Third, the area wasn’t dark and isolated as she described. Rather, the building was right off the busy four-lane highway and people and cars were always around. The restaurant had a wrap-around porch, like the ones at Cracker Barrel restaurants, and there were lights all around the sides of the building. So it wasn’t dark and anyone in the parking lot was visible from the road.

"Fourth, the dumpsters were to the side of the building, not around back and there sure wasn’t room to park in between the building and the dumpsters. People from the kitchen would take trash out of the side door and throw it right into the dumpsters. We were always told to park on the side of the building, because there just wasn’t much room behind it. I don’t remember there being an exit from the back of the parking lot, there would barely have been enough room to turn a car around.

"I came forward because from what I’ve seen, the media is only interested in reporting one side of this story. In fact, Dixon Hayes from WRBC in Birmingham asked for former employees to contact him but never responded when I told him I never saw Roy Moore come into Olde Hickory House during the three years I worked for. Two other news outlets in the state asked to interview me and I agreed, but neither one has aired my interview and I have to wonder why they don’t think the people of Alabama deserve to hear anything that counteracts the accusations against Judge Moore. It’s not for me to say whether or not something happened, I can only tell the truth about factual details that I know for sure. I think all Alabamians deserve to have all of the facts so they can decide for themselves what the truth is. Despite what the national media and people in DC might say, Alabama voters are intelligent and have common sense. We don’t need anyone to tell us how to vote or to explain to us what really happened. We will make that decision and I just wanted to do my part in sharing the truth on some of these important facts. I, like all Alabama voters, want any and all information that can shed light on the truth.”

Johnny Belyeu, Sr. is a former police officer with over two decades of experience with the Etowah County Sheriff’s Department and the Gadsden Police Department. He said in a statement, “I was an officer with the Etowah County Sheriff’s Department in the 1970s which means I worked in the courthouse and knew who Roy Moore was since he was the Deputy District Attorney at the time. I was a regular customer at Olde Hickory House, and I never once saw Judge Moore come in there. If he had I would have immediately recognized him. I also never met Beverly Nelson during any of the many times I frequented the restaurant, and I can’t say that she even worked there.”

Renee Schivera of Huntsville, Alabama stated, “I was a waitress at the Olde Hickory House during the summer of 1977, before my senior year of high school. When I heard Beverly Nelson’s story the first thing that stuck out to me was that I don’t remember Roy Moore ever coming into the restaurant. I also don’t remember her working there. The other thing that struck me as odd is that from my best recollection, the dumpsters were to the side of the building. I just know they were visible from the road, and not back behind the building. But the main thing is that if someone came in almost every night we knew who there were, and I never saw Roy Moore there. As a Christian woman, I wouldn’t lie for anyone and I am only sharing what I know because it’s the truth.”

"The days of unbiased reporting are over," Moore Campaign strategist, Brett Doster said. "The liberal media will dodge any source and refuse to air any interview that doesn't square with their effort to land a liberal Democrat in the senate seat. The Moore Campaign is committed to presenting factual truth to the people of Alabama and looks forward to victory on December 12.""

https://www.roymoore.org/Press-Releases/127/Nelson-Story-Busted%3a-Liberal-Media-Fails-to-Report-the-Truth
One of Moore's accusers has been caught in several... (show quote)







Roy Moore says he first noted his wife when she was 15 of 16 in a dance recital and when he met her 8 years later he remembered her name, When asked if he remembered the names of any other girls in the recital he could not he was 30 at the time amd married her when she was 23 or 24 and he was 38. It is reminiscent of Trumps statement about a 10 year old girl " Just think in 10 years I'll be dating her "

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Nov 21, 2017 14:06:49   #
S. Maturin
 
JFlorio wrote:
My problem with this mess is they condemn a guy like Moore who denies the allegations yet applaud a scum bag like Franken because he admits he's a scumbag and is going in front of an ethics committee full of his cronies.


And we must not overlook a really interesting democrat example newly discovered/uncovered.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/21/powerful-dem-rep-john-conyers-hit-by-report-on-sexual-conduct-with-ex-staffers.html

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Nov 21, 2017 14:37:11   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
lindajoy wrote:
Or Judge Moore’s standing in the community the last 30 years support him for it..

And Kevy if all these people now claiming Moore was as is alleged, why weren’t they offended then and why didn’t they call him out then?? If true then they are an accomplist to an immoral act and an enabler!!
And don’t come back and say they were afraid of his power..

They sure aren’t afraid to say it now ..


Hello LJ,
There are a few things in life I have learned and one of those learning experiences is this, Perception is everything! With the left, that is all they need when they are pretty much in control of the entire MSM. They are controlling the narrative and the tempo in which it is used. They can change the subject at any time they want. It is disturbing that they can take out any candidate of their choice by simply bringing forward multiple women and have them accuse any political enemy at any time. The progressive billionaire club can easily buy themselves accusers. What is a few hundred thousand dollars to the billionaire technocrats who are running the world! Desperate people will do and say ANYTHING for a $300k.

At this point, Mr. Moore has little choices. In order to put this political genie back in its bottle, he will need to take drastic measures. Maybe offer to take a lie detector test for him and his accusers and publically do the test online. Not sure exactly what he can do but the testimonials and the endless talking points being hammered into the public opinion is a huge problem for him. He better think of something to counter all this or he is finished. If in fact he is guilty, then he got what he deserves. Its just very concerning to me that all the left has to do is scream "RAPE" and the man and his career is automatically finished as he knows it! Very concerning!

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Nov 21, 2017 14:38:11   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:



That poll is a week old. Do you want to post a newer one?

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Nov 21, 2017 14:43:44   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
That is the latest poll from last week, not very bright are you!

It's a weekly poll, think before you make a fool of yourself, next time!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/16/fox-news-poll-jones-leads-moore-by-8-points-in-alabama-senate-race.html


vettelover wrote:
That poll is a week old. Do you want to post a newer one?



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Nov 21, 2017 16:03:56   #
frankde Loc: Robinson, Illinois
 
My first post. I lived in Alabama for only 3 years and i agree with you 100%.

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Nov 21, 2017 18:06:19   #
Kazudy
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Shocker: Judge Roy Moore Opens Up 15 Point Lead After Accusers's Stories Fall Apart!
TIM BROWN

It looks like the establishment's dirty tactics backfired on them as US Senate candidate Judge Roy Moore has jumped 15 points in a PredictIt poll over his liberal Democrat challenger Doug Jones.

As accuser's stories are falling apart, and as well they should after they remained silent for nearly four decades, Gateway Pundit reported:

Via PredictIt:
Before the Washington Post story broke, Roy Moore was almost a lock to win at 89 percent in PredictIt’s Alabama Senate race prediction market. After the allegations surfaced, Moore’s odds dropped to 59 percent that day. He remained a slight favorite over Doug Jones, who also saw a significant bump on the news, until Monday when a fifth woman came forward with allegations against Moore.
On Monday afternoon, for the first time in the race, PredictIt traders had Doug Jones in the lead at 47 percent to Moore’s 38 percent.
Moore has since regained a huge lead in the PredictIt market.
As of Saturday afternoon Conservative Republican Roy Moore was back up on top of Doug Jones in the Alabama race.

** This comes after several of the accusations against Roy Moore have fallen apart.


Later, on Monday afternoon, the numbers changed even more drastically to show Moore had a 15 point lead over Jones.

Consider that Moore has denied the allegations and even bowed to Sean Hannity's ultimatum with reference to another allegation of a woman who claimed to know Moore.

I even have a man writing all sorts of people, including your's truly, about how Moore is guilty and that he should drop out of the race and cut a deal with the Alabama GOP and blah, blah, blah, comparing Moore to Ted Haggard, Jim Bakker, Bill Clinton and others, only there is absolutely no comparison when one looks for any sort of evidence of Moore's guilt, at least so far.

Anyone paying attention to what is actually coming out knows Moore's history in public service and they know he has paid a severe price on several occasions for standing on his principles to uphold the law, the Alabama state Constitution, and the US Constitution.

Keep your eyes open people of Alabama. The mainstream media and the establishment government Democrats and Republicans are trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Don't let them!

I'm sure this has kevyn, kemmer, perm, staten and bad bob extremely upset!
Shocker: Judge Roy Moore Opens Up 15 Point Lead Af... (show quote)


Most people with a brain, could figure out that it was nothing more then dirty tricks.

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