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Do You Believe What the Gadsden Police Say About Roy Moore?
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Nov 19, 2017 15:14:36   #
Tgards79
 
pafret wrote:
Unfortunately, when these political parties mount an assassination campaign they are quite adept at loading up the news with every salacious accusation possible. It is no longer possible to ascertain what is truth by news reporting because what they do not distort, they fabricate.

Looking at the background of the accusers finds too many working for the opposition and sex molestation and harassment is the shibboleth de Jour. Any such accusation causes a Chicken Little reaction.

The problem with such accusations is that they destroy people’s lives without providing a means of redress if the accusations are proven false. Considering that forty years has passed it is improbable in the extreme, that this could be proved, false or true, but the accused's reputation and life is destroyed none-the-less.

I think a moratorium on these accusations needs to be declared and a time limit for registering charges established. I would say five ten years after in the case of a minor and seven years for an adult. If such charges are not filed then it should be assumed the alleged victim acquiesced in the action and has no complaint. If it is proved that the charges were made without basis in reality, to derail the political process, jail time should accrue to the accuser.

In Moore's case, most of these people claiming his behavior was common knowledge should be required to provide testimony of what they knew from their own experience, not hearsay. Failing that provide the names of those who had first hand knowledge and put them under oath.

Franken stupidly mugged for pictures, which showed him at least suggesting molestation. No such evidence exists against Moore no matter how many pundits want him to abandon his run for office.
Unfortunately, when these political parties mount ... (show quote)
You simply do not understand the nature of abuse. I'd suggest you read up on the psychological components of it. It's not as easy as, well, I'm coming up to my five-year limit, I better out him. So you are saying a 12-year old victim needs to get it out by the time she is 17? You are ignorant in the precise meaning of the term -- you have a complete absence of knowledge about this subject.

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Nov 19, 2017 16:03:23   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Would you say the same to the "birthers"?


Truly demoncraps steer it away from the discussion as usual.
Buttboy sure didn't show us a real long form birth certificate. PROVEN. How convenient that the only person who saw his "real" long form dies in an airplane crash between islands. I'm surprised that Loretta didn't commit suicide by shooting herself twice in the back of her head while she died in the water.

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Nov 19, 2017 16:04:42   #
Tgards79
 
Justsss wrote:
Truly demoncraps steer it away from the discussion as usual.
Buttboy sure didn't show us a real long form birth certificate. PROVEN. How convenient that the only person who saw his "real" long form dies in an airplane crash between islands. I'm surprised that Loretta didn't commit suicide by shooting herself twice in the back of her head while she died in the water.
Oh for god's sake, even Trump finally admitted Obama was born in Hawaii. You people amaze me!

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Nov 19, 2017 16:16:54   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Would you say the same to the "birthers"?


Apples and corncobs here Bad Bob. Obamas known history was muddy and questionable and his extraordinary efforts to conceal his history smells worse than Trump's refusal to release his Tax Returns. At least we know Trump filed those returns and they were or are being examined by the IRS. The only birth certificate released by Obama has very conclusively been proven to be a fake. In Obama's case it doesn't matter, he wasn't eligible anyway. His foreign national father removed any natural born status and he should never have been accepted as a candidate.

When the birthers are alleged to have committed sex crimes forty years ago let me know and I'll give you a reading.

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Nov 19, 2017 16:21:09   #
Tgards79
 
pafret wrote:
Apples and corncobs here Bad Bob. Obamas known history was muddy and questionable and his extraordinary efforts to conceal his history smells worse than Trump's refusal to release his Tax Returns. At least we know Trump filed those returns and they were or are being examined by the IRS. The only birth certificate released by Obama has very conclusively been proven to be a fake. In Obama's case it doesn't matter, he wasn't eligible anyway. His foreign national father removed any natural born status and he should never have been accepted as a candidate.

When the birthers are alleged to have committed sex crimes forty years ago let me know and I'll give you a reading.
Apples and corncobs here Bad Bob. Obamas known h... (show quote)
Proven to be a fake? What are you talking about!!!

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Nov 19, 2017 16:21:39   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Pafret, thanks for a great reply. I always count on you to bring the discussions around the right way.

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Nov 19, 2017 16:23:00   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Tgards79 wrote:
You hide behind "fake news" -- everything that is unpleasant you tune out and say "fake news." These are real Alabamans who are being quoted, ON CAMERA. What is fake about that???? I'm not defending Al Franken or Bill Clinton, they are slime. What Roy Moore did was far worse -- why do you defend him? I don't even understand your point about Muslims. But anyone who assaults, harasses or molests women is slime, regardless of their geography, religion or political persuasion.
You hide behind "fake news" -- everythin... (show quote)


I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm just not so dumb as to believe an unbelievable accusation equals guilt. Your insistence on remaining willfully misinformed is quite telling, though.

What about Hillary? She proudly bragged about getting a rapist off scott-free, while driving his victim to suicide. I'll bet you voted for her anyway.

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Nov 19, 2017 16:23:26   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Proven to be a fake? What are you talking about!!!


If you believe that fairytale piece of paper do I have some stock to sell you BLAH HA HA HA!

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Nov 19, 2017 16:25:08   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Justsss wrote:
Truly demoncraps steer it away from the discussion as usual.
Buttboy sure didn't show us a real long form birth certificate. PROVEN. How convenient that the only person who saw his "real" long form dies in an airplane crash between islands. I'm surprised that Loretta didn't commit suicide by shooting herself twice in the back of her head while she died in the water.



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Nov 19, 2017 16:25:58   #
Tgards79
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm just not so dumb as to believe an unbelievable accusation equals guilt. Your insistence on remaining willfully misinformed is quite telling, though.

What about Hillary? She proudly bragged about getting a rapist off scott-free, while driving his victim to suicide. I'll bet you voted for her anyway.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Zero. We live in completely different worlds and your believe things that are incredible.

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Nov 19, 2017 16:36:26   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Tgards79 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Zero. We live in completely different worlds and your believe things that are incredible.


Try looking it up. hiLIARy defended a rapist who raped a (12 year old girl) and than was recorded laughing about it even though she knew he was guilty. She eventually committed suicide. Unfortunately the raped girl not hiLIARy.

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Nov 19, 2017 16:38:25   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Justsss wrote:
Try looking it up. hiLIARy defended a rapist who raped a (12 year old girl) and than was recorded laughing about it even though she knew he was guilty. She eventually committed suicide. Unfortunately the raped girl not hiLIARy.


Did ya see on Facebook or YouTube?

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Nov 19, 2017 16:38:57   #
Tgards79
 
Justsss wrote:
Try looking it up. hiLIARy defended a rapist who raped a (12 year old girl) and than was recorded laughing about it even though she knew he was guilty. She eventually committed suicide. Unfortunately the raped girl not hiLIARy.
Hillary was a lawyer. Let me teach you how our legal system works. Someone is accused of a crime. They are entitled to an attorney to defend them. The defense attorney actually tries to build a case on their behalf. Do you understand that?

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Nov 19, 2017 16:45:42   #
Lonewolf
 
I would have his balls hanging my barn




Justsss wrote:
40 years past that wasn't so strange. Men established themselves at their professions so as to be good providers.
This led to less divorces and stronger families. Of course than those woman lived well beyond their husbands.
No daughter, but if my granddaughter decided that she was comfortable with an older man I'd have no problem with that. I would have the same concerns that fathers
had 40 years past. If he proposes is this to be his first wife ? Is he financially secure? Is he a GOD FEARING MAN ? Etc.
would I allow my daughter to date a democrat NO.
40 years past that wasn't so strange. Men establis... (show quote)

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Nov 19, 2017 16:47:17   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Tgards79 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Zero. We live in completely different worlds and your believe things that are incredible.


We do. I live in the real world while you're stuck in your leftist fantasyland of free stuff and unicorns. For that you need to stay willfully misinformed.

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