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Nov 17, 2017 08:20:21   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
This thing about R Moore for senator is to get the vote 50-50 and also it’s all lies produced by women who do not tell the truth about this guy , it’s s Smear by idiots who do not care about anyone except themselves ! The Year Book was signed in Dec , I got my year book in May about 2 weeks before let out ! Someone waited 6 months to signed the year , my my !

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Nov 17, 2017 08:25:34   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
JW wrote:
Well, inasmuch as I am not a Christian, it must offend me on some other level... how about on the basis of the general social good and raw logic.


Yea, those evangelicals lost their social etiquette and raw logic after a good beating from scripture.

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Nov 17, 2017 08:50:03   #
Lonewolf
 
When you stop deluding yourself and stop justifying suporting sick and degenerate people like Trump and Roy moor . How do you do it do you hold yout nose and keep your eyes closed.
I bet you voted for Romney a non Christian and bishop in a church that teaches a gospel much different than yours! He will lead people to hell , So at least once you sided with satin are you going to continue?





Peewee wrote:
To all my libtard fellow posters, just because you can walk and text at the same time doesn't make you smarter or more superior than anyone else. Please just take the time and read the Constitution and the Bible sometime in your short lives. Doing that will not make you a better person, but it will make you a smarter person.

There is nothing wrong with being an evangelical... 90% of the time we don't steal, lie, cheat, fornicate or commit adultery, we don't spread diseases, or pass unjust laws, and we help our neighbors, father and mother our children, we built most of the original colleges and hospitals, when we give blood it's not tainted, most of us don't curse, get drunk or start fights. You don't like us because you don't understand us. Some know many languages but most don't, some know quantum physics most don't, but for all our differences we love and look out for one another. Most enlisted people come from the south and that doesn't make us stupid, it's because we love our God/Jesus and our nation. The Jews aren't evangelic and they sure don't like Jesus but we love them because of a Jew named Yashuah/Jesus. There have been more Christians martyr's killed in our life time than since the dawn of civilization. When you sincerely invite Jesus into your heart it will change you no matter where you live or what your past is. If your angry all the time, maybe the reason isn't us (and we mostly tend to be conservative) maybe you've missed something you should have learned. This universe didn't just happen, there are just too many finely tuned things about this blue marble to have happened by accident or evolution. Read the first book ever printed and number one best selling book of all time, every year and maybe it'll make you smarter, nicer, better person, friend and someone I wouldn't think twice about taking a bullet for. Just saying, your choice... but I heard that lib and retard were going to mean the same thing in next year's dictionaries... forgive me Jesus, I just couldn't help it....:)
To all my libtard fellow posters, just because you... (show quote)

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Nov 17, 2017 08:55:29   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
SMEAR people without the truth at all.

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Nov 17, 2017 09:34:09   #
Lonewolf
 
Just what you did to hillery


Holdenbeach4u wrote:
SMEAR people without the truth at all.

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Nov 17, 2017 09:44:09   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Peewee wrote:
To all my libtard fellow posters, just because you can walk and text at the same time doesn't make you smarter or more superior than anyone else. Please just take the time and read the Constitution and the Bible sometime in your short lives. Doing that will not make you a better person, but it will make you a smarter person.

There is nothing wrong with being an evangelical... 90% of the time we don't steal, lie, cheat, fornicate or commit adultery, we don't spread diseases, or pass unjust laws, and we help our neighbors, father and mother our children, we built most of the original colleges and hospitals, when we give blood it's not tainted, most of us don't curse, get drunk or start fights. You don't like us because you don't understand us. Some know many languages but most don't, some know quantum physics most don't, but for all our differences we love and look out for one another. Most enlisted people come from the south and that doesn't make us stupid, it's because we love our God/Jesus and our nation. The Jews aren't evangelic and they sure don't like Jesus but we love them because of a Jew named Yashuah/Jesus. There have been more Christians martyr's killed in our life time than since the dawn of civilization. When you sincerely invite Jesus into your heart it will change you no matter where you live or what your past is. If your angry all the time, maybe the reason isn't us (and we mostly tend to be conservative) maybe you've missed something you should have learned. This universe didn't just happen, there are just too many finely tuned things about this blue marble to have happened by accident or evolution. Read the first book ever printed and number one best selling book of all time, every year and maybe it'll make you smarter, nicer, better person, friend and someone I wouldn't think twice about taking a bullet for. Just saying, your choice... but I heard that lib and retard were going to mean the same thing in next year's dictionaries... forgive me Jesus, I just couldn't help it....:)
To all my libtard fellow posters, just because you... (show quote)


I think you missed the point.
This is not about evangelicals per se. It's about the intersection of politics and evangelicals and the continued support of folks who clearly do NOT represent what evangelicals claim to believe.
I, for one, hope that Moore wins. Politically, Moore replacing Sessions in the Alabama senate seat is a wash. They both are conservatives who I would not vote for, but the balance of power in, and philosophically, the Senate would not change.

Moore and Trump together as national representatives of the right will be the gifts that keep on giving to liberals. They motivate us to run and vote
for offices, especially at the local levels. They feed the resistance.

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Nov 17, 2017 09:54:43   #
Lonewolf
 
Point well made thanks




working class stiff wrote:
I think you missed the point.
This is not about evangelicals per se. It's about the intersection of politics and evangelicals and the continued support of folks who clearly do NOT represent what evangelicals claim to believe.
I, for one, hope that Moore wins. Politically, Moore replacing Sessions in the Alabama senate seat is a wash. They both are conservatives who I would not vote for, but the balance of power in, and philosophically, the Senate would not change.

Moore and Trump together as national representatives of the right will be the gifts that keep on giving to liberals. They motivate us to run and vote
for offices, especially at the local levels. They feed the resistance.
I think you missed the point. br This is not about... (show quote)

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Nov 17, 2017 10:03:34   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
PaulPisces wrote:
An interesting article with one viewpoint on the current state of evangelical politics.
Just thought I would share.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/15/opinion/roy-moore-evangelical-politics.html?emc=edit_th_20171116&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=37695634


paulpiscek: Try websites without hidden agendas...the ny times is a complete waste of valuable time and energy! Sites like this only enhances your jealousy and degrades your time and energy to achieve your own skill-sets and personal goals. Spend your time on more valuable subjects. Remember; Jealousy is a very time-consuming waste of potential energy.

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Nov 17, 2017 10:47:52   #
Radiance3
 
Peewee wrote:
To all my libtard fellow posters, just because you can walk and text at the same time doesn't make you smarter or more superior than anyone else. Please just take the time and read the Constitution and the Bible sometime in your short lives. Doing that will not make you a better person, but it will make you a smarter person.

There is nothing wrong with being an evangelical... 90% of the time we don't steal, lie, cheat, fornicate or commit adultery, we don't spread diseases, or pass unjust laws, and we help our neighbors, father and mother our children, we built most of the original colleges and hospitals, when we give blood it's not tainted, most of us don't curse, get drunk or start fights. You don't like us because you don't understand us. Some know many languages but most don't, some know quantum physics most don't, but for all our differences we love and look out for one another. Most enlisted people come from the south and that doesn't make us stupid, it's because we love our God/Jesus and our nation. The Jews aren't evangelic and they sure don't like Jesus but we love them because of a Jew named Yashuah/Jesus. There have been more Christians martyr's killed in our life time than since the dawn of civilization. When you sincerely invite Jesus into your heart it will change you no matter where you live or what your past is. If your angry all the time, maybe the reason isn't us (and we mostly tend to be conservative) maybe you've missed something you should have learned. This universe didn't just happen, there are just too many finely tuned things about this blue marble to have happened by accident or evolution. Read the first book ever printed and number one best selling book of all time, every year and maybe it'll make you smarter, nicer, better person, friend and someone I wouldn't think twice about taking a bullet for. Just saying, your choice... but I heard that lib and retard were going to mean the same thing in next year's dictionaries... forgive me Jesus, I just couldn't help it....:)
To all my libtard fellow posters, just because you... (show quote)


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AL FRANKEN, THE WOMEN GROPER MUST RESIGN. HE IS A HYPOCRITE! Franken is a proven case. He is guilty.

Ray Moore is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Then how do we prove that? Forty years ago, 5 women recently came out 3 weeks before the election accusing Moore of sexual harassment. These accusations have damaged and perhaps ended the life and career of Ray Moore. This also has damaged the standing of the GOP at the Senate and our country.
So how to you solve these allegations? I think for the sake of the GOP and our country, Ray Moore has to step aside. If he thinks he is innocent, to restore his reputation, he must SUE these 5 women who've accusing him.

Currently, he is lagging 9 points in the pool. I think he will anyways lose the election. But granting if he wins, which is now nil, he will be relentlessly bombarded at the Senate, and the GOP's demise. Could he allow this to happen? I hope NOT.

SOLUTION!! In order to prove he is innocence, SUE these 5 women. Women normally lies, to get money. Fact is so many women bare out their bodies to public and when men look at them, they SUE for millions of dollars. Their targets are those with hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. There are many smart women. But by nature, more women are dumber than men. That is how humans are created.

McConnell must postpone this election. Perhaps a better candidate could be chosen.

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Nov 17, 2017 10:54:31   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Though Ray Moore is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Then how do we prove that? Forty years ago, 5 women recently came out 3 weeks before the election accusing Moore of sexual harassment. These accusations have damaged and perhaps ended the life and career of Ray Moore. This also has damaged the standing of the GOP at the Senate and our country.
So how to you solve these allegations? I think for the sake of the GOP and our country, Ray Moore has to step aside. If he thinks he is innocent, to clean these damage, he must SUE these 5 women who've accused him to RESTORE his reputation.

Currently, he is lagging 9 points in the pool. I think he will anyways lose the election. But granting if he wins, which is now nil, he will be relentlessly bombarded at the Senate, and the GOP's demise. Could he allow this to happen? I hope he must not. SOLUTION!! In order to prove he is innocence, SUE these 5 women. Women normally lies, to get money. Fact is so many women bare out their bodies to public and when men look at them, they SUE for millions of dollars. Their targets are those with hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. There are many smart women. But by nature, women are dumber than men. That is how humans are created.

McConnell must postpone this election. Perhaps a better candidate could be chosen.
================= br Though Ray Moore is presumed ... (show quote)


Radiance3: It's an interesting double standard....Bill Clinton? Moore will fight this through and bring justice to the usurpers trying to unhinge him! The elitist agenda itself is coming unhinged in this sad debacle!

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Nov 17, 2017 11:16:21   #
Lonewolf
 
remember all the women trump was going to sue but he didn't sue even one and one is still taking him to court.
remember the bus video were he talked about grabbing pussy well right there he admitted to sexual assault


Radiance3 wrote:
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AL FRANKEN, THE WOMEN GROPER MUST RESIGN. HE IS A HYPOCRITE! Franken is a proven case. He is guilty.

Ray Moore is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Then how do we prove that? Forty years ago, 5 women recently came out 3 weeks before the election accusing Moore of sexual harassment. These accusations have damaged and perhaps ended the life and career of Ray Moore. This also has damaged the standing of the GOP at the Senate and our country.
So how to you solve these allegations? I think for the sake of the GOP and our country, Ray Moore has to step aside. If he thinks he is innocent, to restore his reputation, he must SUE these 5 women who've accusing him.

Currently, he is lagging 9 points in the pool. I think he will anyways lose the election. But granting if he wins, which is now nil, he will be relentlessly bombarded at the Senate, and the GOP's demise. Could he allow this to happen? I hope NOT.

SOLUTION!! In order to prove he is innocence, SUE these 5 women. Women normally lies, to get money. Fact is so many women bare out their bodies to public and when men look at them, they SUE for millions of dollars. Their targets are those with hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. There are many smart women. But by nature, more women are dumber than men. That is how humans are created.

McConnell must postpone this election. Perhaps a better candidate could be chosen.
================= br AL FRANKEN, THE WOMEN GROPER ... (show quote)

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Nov 17, 2017 11:24:00   #
MS. FACTUAL
 
desparado wrote:
remember all the women trump was going to sue but he didn't sue even one and one is still taking him to court.
remember the bus video were he talked about grabbing pussy well right there he admitted to sexual assault


One by one, those so called "victims" YOU keep saying Trump had done something wrong to, have been proven LIARS! Most even have had their own family members come forward and state the accusations were a LIE!

Naturally you are a democrat. Dishonesty and crime are a part of your political agenda.

Democrats...a disgusting group of commies!

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Nov 17, 2017 11:28:22   #
JW
 
desparado wrote:
remember all the women trump was going to sue but he didn't sue even one and one is still taking him to court.
remember the bus video were he talked about grabbing pussy well right there he admitted to sexual assault


What he said on that recording/video was that a man with star power could do even that and women would tolerate it... and he was correct, as Hollywood has proven for decades. Is that changing now? Don't bet on it!

There will always be people with the power to grant wishes and people who want them granted.

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Nov 17, 2017 11:48:45   #
Geo
 
maryla wrote:
I suggest the Democrats are all using this as a diversion from the latest trouble Hillary is now in. It looks like FINALLY she may get in trouble for Uranium sale and emails..In this case, follow the money. Who is paying these ladies. Roy Moore now has a sharp attorney


Haven't you been listening? Hillary is the diversion. Uranium is the diversion.

11/14/2017
Fox News anchor Shepherd Smith debunked what his own network has called the Hillary Clinton uranium “scandal,” infuriating Fox viewers, some of whom suggested that he ought go work for CNN or MSNBC.
Smith’s critique, which called President Trump’s accusations against Clinton “inaccurate,” was triggered by renewed calls from Republicans on Capitol Hill for a special counsel to investigate Clinton.
Fox News, along with Trump and his allies, have been suggesting for months a link between donations to the Clinton Foundation and the approval of a deal by the State Department and the Obama administration allowing a Russian company to purchase a Canada-based mining group with operations in the United States.

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Trump called it “Watergate, modern-age.” Former White House adviser Sebastian Gorka, speaking on Fox News last month, said it was “equivalent to” the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg spying case of the 1950s, in which the couple was charged with providing U.S. atomic secrets to the Soviet Union, noting that “those people got the chair.”
Various fact-checkers, including The Washington Post’s, have already dismantled the underpinnings of these accusations. No one expected a similar debunking from Fox.
But Smith, in his broadcast, made many of the same points as the fact-checkers. “Now, here’s the accusation,” he said.

Nine people involved in the deal made donations to the Clinton Foundation totaling more than $140 million. In exchange, Secretary of State [Hillary] Clinton approved the sale to the Russians, a quid-pro-quo. The accusation first made by Peter Schweizer, the senior editor-at-large of the website Breitbart in his 2015 book Clinton Cash. The next year, candidate Donald Trump cited the accusation as an example of Clinton corruption.

He then played a video of Trump’s version of the “scandal” in which he claimed:

Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20 percent of America’s uranium holdings to Russia. Well, nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.

Smith called the statement “inaccurate in a number of ways,” noting that “the Clinton State Department had no power to veto or approve that transaction.” Rather, it must be approved by an interagency committee of the government consisting of nine department heads, including the Secretary of State.
Most of the Clinton Foundation donations in question, he pointed out, came from Frank Giustra, the founder of the uranium company in Canada. But Giustra, Smith noted, “says he sold his stake in the company back in 2007,” three years before the uranium/Russia deal and “a year and a half before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state. He added:

. . . The accusation is predicated on the charge that Secretary Clinton approved the sale. She did not. A committee of nine evaluated the sale, the president approved the sale, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and others had to offer permits, and none of the uranium was exported for use by the U.S. to Russia.

Smith has deviated from the Fox and Trump line before, to the point that his Fox colleague Sean Hannity accused him of being “anti-Trump.”
Tuesday night, Twitter was brimming with outrage from people who appeared to share Hannity’s view.

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Nov 17, 2017 11:49:40   #
Lonewolf
 
not one of them was proven liers that's why he hasn't sued them.



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MS. FACTUAL wrote:
One by one, those so called "victims" YOU keep saying Trump had done something wrong to, have been proven LIARS! Most even have had their own family members come forward and state the accusations were a LIE!

Naturally you are a democrat. Dishonesty and crime are a part of your political agenda.

Democrats...a disgusting group of commies!

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