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Nov 15, 2017 06:24:34   #
Kevyn
 
Moore is loosing more and more support from republicans. Donald Trump is meeting with Republican leaders over the matter when he returns from his Asia trip. If Trump asks Moore to remove himself from the race will you who are defending Moore side with Moore or Trump. Keep in mind this is a likely outcome and would allow Luther Strange to run instead of Moore without splitting the Republican vote.

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Nov 15, 2017 06:53:05   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
I know you communist do things differently but real Americans don't require a person to suffer the indignity of punishment UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME.Chew on that tonight when you visit the goats for your evenings entertainment.

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Nov 15, 2017 07:59:26   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Hemiman wrote:
I know you communist do things differently but real Americans don't require a person to suffer the indignity of punishment UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME.Chew on that tonight when you visit the goats for your evenings entertainment.


I know you fascist do things differently but real Americans don't require a person to suffer the indignity of punishment UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME. Chew on that tonight when you visit the goats for your evenings entertainment.

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Nov 15, 2017 08:08:01   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
Bad Bob wrote:
I know you fascist do things differently but real Americans don't require a person to suffer the indignity of punishment UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME. Chew on that tonight when you visit the goats for your evenings entertainment.


The goats are on to his blather too, kevyn will have to stew by himself. He of all people should know what guilt by association means.

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Nov 15, 2017 08:12:32   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Bad Bob wrote:
I know we fascist do things differently from real Americans we do require a person to suffer the indignity of Punishment when they HAVE NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME. I will chew on that tonight when I visit the goats for my evenings entertainment.
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Nov 15, 2017 08:26:36   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
I prefer to see if the accusations are found to be true you all know about innocent till proven guilty !

It still looks like a hit squad none of these women went to the authorities and only came forward after WP went to digging for dirt !

So why didn't they go to the authorities instead of the WP just when Moore won ?

No doubt if Moore drops out not another word will be heard out of these women just like in the case with Herman Cain !

Having said all that if Moore is guilty then he should drop out !

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Nov 15, 2017 08:27:09   #
moldyoldy
 
Bad Bob wrote:
I know you fascist do things differently but real Americans don't require a person to suffer the indignity of punishment UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME. Chew on that tonight when you visit the goats for your evenings entertainment.


Robert William Packwood (born September 11, 1932) is an American former attorney and politician from Oregon and a member of the Republican Party. He resigned from the United States Senate, under threat of expulsion, in 1995 after allegations of sexual harassment, abuse and assault of women emerged.

Road to resignation[edit]
Sexual misconduct allegations[edit]
Packwood's political career began to unravel in November 1992, when a Washington Post story detailed claims of sexual abuse and assault from ten women, chiefly former staffers and lobbyists.[31] Publication of the story was delayed until after the 1992 election, as Packwood had denied the allegations and the Post had not gathered enough of the story at the time.[32][33] Packwood defeated Democrat Les AuCoin 52.1% to 46.5%. Eventually 19 women would come forward.[34]
As the situation developed, Packwood's diary became an issue. Wrangling over whether the diary could be subpoenaed and whether it was protected by the Fifth Amendment's protection against self-incrimination ensued. He did divulge 5,000 pages to the Senate Ethics Committee but balked when a further 3,200 pages were demanded by the committee. It was discovered that he had edited the diary, removing what were allegedly references to sexual encounters and the sexual abuse allegations made against him. Packwood then made what some of his colleagues interpreted as a threat to expose wrongdoing by other members of Congress. The diary allegedly detailed some of his abusive behavior toward women and, according to a press statement made by Richard Bryan, at that time serving as senator from Nevada, "raised questions about possible violations of one or more laws, including criminal laws".[35]
Expulsion recommendation and resignation[edit]
Despite pressure from the public and from female Senators, especially Barbara Boxer from California, for open hearings, the Senate ultimately decided against them. The Ethics Committee's indictment, running to ten-volumes and 10,145 pages, much of it from Packwood's own writings, according to a report in The New York Times detailed the sexual misconduct, obstruction of justice, and ethics charges being made against him.[36] The chairman of the Ethics Committee, Republican senator Mitch McConnell, referred to Packwood's "habitual pattern of aggressive, blatantly sexual advances, mostly directed at members of his own staff or others whose livelihoods were connected in some way to his power and authority as a Senator" and said Packwood's behaviour included "deliberately altering and destroying relevant portions of his diary" which Packwood himself had written in the diary were "very incriminating information".[36]
With pressure mounting against him, Packwood announced his resignation from the Senate on September 7, 1995, in which he stated that he was "aware of the dishonor that has befallen me in the last three years" and "his duty to resign" following the Senate Ethics Committee unanimous recommendation that he be expelled from the Senate for ethical misconduct.[36] Democratic Congressman Ron Wyden won the seat in a special election.
After the sexual harassment case came to light, Packwood entered the Hazelden Foundation clinic for alcoholism in Minnesota, blaming his drinking for the harassments.[37]
Four years later, during debate on Clinton's impeachment, McConnell said that the Republicans knew that it was very likely Packwood's seat would fall to the Democrats if Packwood were forced out. However, McConnell said, he and his fellow Republicans felt that it came down to a choice of "retain the Senate seat or retain our honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Packwood

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Nov 15, 2017 08:58:17   #
vernon
 
Kevyn wrote:
Moore is loosing more and more support from republicans. Donald Trump is meeting with Republican leaders over the matter when he returns from his Asia trip. If Trump asks Moore to remove himself from the race will you who are defending Moore side with Moore or Trump. Keep in mind this is a likely outcome and would allow Luther Strange to run instead of Moore without splitting the Republican vote.



Why would Moore listen to trump?Trump supported and campaigned for Strange.Now it's time this last minute shit from the demorats be stopped.They came out with this woman and claimed


she was a republican but now we find out she is a democrat operative.She also has pulled this crap on several people including a couple of clergy,it's time to stop these chronic liars from trying to steal elections.

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Nov 15, 2017 09:11:00   #
vernon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Robert William Packwood (born September 11, 1932) is an American former attorney and politician from Oregon and a member of the Republican Party. He resigned from the United States Senate, under threat of expulsion, in 1995 after allegations of sexual harassment, abuse and assault of women emerged.

Road to resignation[edit]
Sexual misconduct allegations[edit]
Packwood's political career began to unravel in November 1992, when a Washington Post story detailed claims of sexual abuse and assault from ten women, chiefly former staffers and lobbyists.[31] Publication of the story was delayed until after the 1992 election, as Packwood had denied the allegations and the Post had not gathered enough of the story at the time.[32][33] Packwood defeated Democrat Les AuCoin 52.1% to 46.5%. Eventually 19 women would come forward.[34]
As the situation developed, Packwood's diary became an issue. Wrangling over whether the diary could be subpoenaed and whether it was protected by the Fifth Amendment's protection against self-incrimination ensued. He did divulge 5,000 pages to the Senate Ethics Committee but balked when a further 3,200 pages were demanded by the committee. It was discovered that he had edited the diary, removing what were allegedly references to sexual encounters and the sexual abuse allegations made against him. Packwood then made what some of his colleagues interpreted as a threat to expose wrongdoing by other members of Congress. The diary allegedly detailed some of his abusive behavior toward women and, according to a press statement made by Richard Bryan, at that time serving as senator from Nevada, "raised questions about possible violations of one or more laws, including criminal laws".[35]
Expulsion recommendation and resignation[edit]
Despite pressure from the public and from female Senators, especially Barbara Boxer from California, for open hearings, the Senate ultimately decided against them. The Ethics Committee's indictment, running to ten-volumes and 10,145 pages, much of it from Packwood's own writings, according to a report in The New York Times detailed the sexual misconduct, obstruction of justice, and ethics charges being made against him.[36] The chairman of the Ethics Committee, Republican senator Mitch McConnell, referred to Packwood's "habitual pattern of aggressive, blatantly sexual advances, mostly directed at members of his own staff or others whose livelihoods were connected in some way to his power and authority as a Senator" and said Packwood's behaviour included "deliberately altering and destroying relevant portions of his diary" which Packwood himself had written in the diary were "very incriminating information".[36]
With pressure mounting against him, Packwood announced his resignation from the Senate on September 7, 1995, in which he stated that he was "aware of the dishonor that has befallen me in the last three years" and "his duty to resign" following the Senate Ethics Committee unanimous recommendation that he be expelled from the Senate for ethical misconduct.[36] Democratic Congressman Ron Wyden won the seat in a special election.
After the sexual harassment case came to light, Packwood entered the Hazelden Foundation clinic for alcoholism in Minnesota, blaming his drinking for the harassments.[37]
Four years later, during debate on Clinton's impeachment, McConnell said that the Republicans knew that it was very likely Packwood's seat would fall to the Democrats if Packwood were forced out. However, McConnell said, he and his fellow Republicans felt that it came down to a choice of "retain the Senate seat or retain our honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Packwood
Robert William Packwood (born September 11, 1932) ... (show quote)




Now tell me about the democrat that has been subjected to this kind of crap.

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Nov 15, 2017 09:37:59   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
vernon wrote:
Why would Moore listen to trump?Trump supported and campaigned for Strange.Now it's time this last minute shit from the demorats be stopped.They came out with this woman and claimed


she was a republican but now we find out she is a democrat operative.She also has pulled this crap on several people including a couple of clergy,it's time to stop these chronic liars from trying to steal elections.


Vern it's your RINOs that are the problem.

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Nov 15, 2017 09:53:33   #
Kevyn
 
4430 wrote:
I prefer to see if the accusations are found to be true you all know about innocent till proven guilty !

It still looks like a hit squad none of these women went to the authorities and only came forward after WP went to digging for dirt !

So why didn't they go to the authorities instead of the WP just when Moore won ?

No doubt if Moore drops out not another word will be heard out of these women just like in the case with Herman Cain !

Having said all that if Moore is guilty then he should drop out !
I prefer to see if the accusations are found to be... (show quote)
As prosecutor he was “the authority” and threatened them, who exactly would a frightened teen girl turn to in podunk Alabama, the local grand dragon?

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Nov 15, 2017 10:02:39   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Kevyn wrote:
As prosecutor he was “the authority” and threatened them, who exactly would a frightened teen girl turn to in podunk Alabama, the local grand dragon?



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Nov 15, 2017 10:20:07   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Kevyn wrote:
As prosecutor he was “the authority” and threatened them, who exactly would a frightened teen girl turn to in podunk Alabama, the local grand dragon?


That might be the case back then but not for all of 40 yrs after all he was a judge for many yrs why not come forward and get it out in the open but noooo it was only when he won , but you liberals can't understand that !

Of course if he were a Demo then it'd be a mute point .

If he's proven guilty then he should step down until then no .

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Nov 15, 2017 10:47:24   #
moldyoldy
 
4430 wrote:
That might be the case back then but not for all of 40 yrs after all he was a judge for many yrs why not come forward and get it out in the open but noooo it was only when he won , but you liberals can't understand that !

Of course if he were a Demo then it'd be a mute point .

If he's proven guilty then he should step down until then no .


You obviously have not noticed that women have found their voice and are speaking out all over about sexual harassment. Hollywood, 50 perverts in the congress, priests and boys, the catholic church paying millions. You need to accept what is the reality, and many of those who yell Jesus the loudest are the most vile.

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Nov 15, 2017 10:47:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
They understand it. They don't care. If the women came out tomorrow and admitted they were lying this bunch of lefties would still say he's guilty.
It's what they do. Never seen a bunch of bigger liars in my life. They don't give a damn about the women. If they did they'd be demanding a new investigation into all the accusers of, and Bill Clinton. Hell, liberals knew for years that women were being used and abused in Hollywood. Not a peep.
Now a bunch of liberals coming out of the woodwork and saying I'm sorry I should have said something. When I say they have no core values I am right. These people are disgusting.
4430 wrote:
That might be the case back then but not for all of 40 yrs after all he was a judge for many yrs why not come forward and get it out in the open but noooo it was only when he won , but you liberals can't understand that !

Of course if he were a Demo then it'd be a mute point .

If he's proven guilty then he should step down until then no .

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