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Nov 11, 2017 14:23:29   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Super Dave wrote:
Perhaps.

Whatever comes is going to have to be really good if it's going to pull his ass out of the fire.


If you didn't listen to the interview you might want to.


I did listen to it but will still wait until everything is presented...her age is of question now with other factors in the story unfolding..but if Moore is guilty of molesting a minor then hang'em, hang'em high...

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Nov 11, 2017 14:42:53   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
SGM B wrote:
It pains me to say I'm afraid you are right. I heard the interview on Hannity last night with Haroldo, Jarrett (I think that's his name) and some female lawyer. Rivera is no conservative, I doubt the other two are either. My problem with the high and mighty Hannity in that interview is that he was firing questions at Judge Moore like you would expect a prosecutor to question a hostile witness.
I have never had any use for the "war hero" John McCain and his comments about Moore's suitability to be a Senator is laughable - I wonder if his x-wife thinks he is "suitable" for the Senate, you know, the one who stood by him while he was a prisoner. When this pos returned from VN he promptly divorced her and got himself a trophy wife with lots of money. The entire bunch of RINOs need replaced, ASAP! Oh, and how about the corporate raider Mitt Romney "innocent until proven guilty doesn't count in politics" - screw him and the horse he ride in on.
Sorry, but I'm from Alabama and all this BS talk about suspending the election until next year is just that - BS. Try it RINOs and you will have a real problem on your hands.
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I posted one this morning inviting all OPP vets to list their branch of service. So far I seem to be the only soldier. Several Marines, but you know how Marines always crave the spotlight, lol. Happy Vets day to all of us. (At least I got a free cup of coffee, local restaurant gives vets free coffee on Veterans' Day.)
Once more I find the timing of these accusations awfully suspect. Moore has had a pretty controversial career, and for something like this to lay dormant for nearly four decades and then all of sudden surface a couple of weeks before an election that he looked like a shoo-in to win is just a little too damn convenient for me. One of the women is alleged to have lied about being 14, and one has accused at least three clergymen of unwanted sexual advances and has a record. One, I forget which, works or worked for Moore's opponent.

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Nov 11, 2017 14:48:29   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
byronglimish wrote:
I did listen to it but will still wait until everything is presented...her age is of question now with other factors in the story unfolding..but if Moore is guilty of molesting a minor then hang'em, hang'em high...


Being innocent is only 10% of it now. Optics are 90%.

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Nov 11, 2017 15:27:04   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Super Dave wrote:
Being innocent is only 10% of it now. Optics are 90%.


If he is innocent, to hell with opinions..

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Nov 11, 2017 15:45:19   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
byronglimish wrote:
If he is innocent, to hell with opinions..
This is an election, not a trial.

Voters use any reasoning they want.

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Nov 11, 2017 15:50:44   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Super Dave wrote:
This is an election, not a trial.

Voters use any reasoning they want.


So you don't think Moore will be in the Senate ?

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Nov 11, 2017 16:52:29   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
byronglimish wrote:
So you don't think Moore will be in the Senate ?


I don't.

But the big shots never ask me for advice.

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Nov 11, 2017 18:59:53   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Super Dave wrote:
Perhaps.

Whatever comes is going to have to be really good if it's going to pull his ass out of the fire.


If you didn't listen to the interview you might want to.


I did. BTW, did you see/read the background on all of Moore's accuser's? Very interesting...and enlightening.

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Nov 11, 2017 19:24:37   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
I can and do believe most bad stories about judges. I have personal knowledge that 28 do not follow governing law. However, I like Moore's principal on the Commandments. On older men and younger women even girls in carnal knowledge and even marriage and even to your cousin is common place and accepted.

Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old cousin. Not cool to me but ok where they are from.




Super Dave wrote:
How do you figure?

When someone asks if you had sex with a 14 year old girl when you were 32, and you have to put vague, lawyerly qualifiers on your answer you're killing yourself.

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Nov 11, 2017 19:41:09   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Loki wrote:
It seems that Roy Moore's accusers have their own little axes to grind. One is a volunteer for Moore's opponent; one has accused three different pastors of three different churches of making unwanted sexual advances toward her. The fourteen year old has been alleged to have actually been seventeen at the time, past the legal age of consent.


http://freedomoutpost.com/anyone-else-smell-rat-sexual-allegations-roy-moore/


Along with yours I add this for consideration.....These are people who know Mr. Moore or what he is character wise..~

CNN spoke to about a dozen Alabamians about the allegations against Moore. Here's how they said they are dealing with the bombshell accusations.

Mike Allison

Mike Allison, pastor of Madison Baptist Church, said he knows Moore as "a man of integrity," he told CNN.

"I don't even believe the allegations. There's lots of fake news going around these days," he said. "They're allegations. How can he even defend himself against 40-year-old allegations? You used to be innocent until proven guilty."

"I support him now more than ever," he said.

Jamie Holcomb

"I've known him my whole life and I've never known him to do anything inappropriate," said the Rev. Jamie Holcomb, of Young's Chapel Congregational Methodist Church.

He said that he'd need to see more proof before he changed his mind.

"I stand behind him 100%, unless there's proof," he said. "If (his accusers) are found to have been assaulted, I'll be the first to condemn it."

"If true, he needs to resign," he added.

Former Alabama Chief Justice and US Senate candidate Roy Moore speaks at a rally in Fairhope, Alabama.
Former Alabama Chief Justice and US Senate candidate Roy Moore speaks at a rally in Fairhope, Alabama.
Tim Huddleston

Tim Huddleston said he is a Republican who votes Republican.

"If they're true, that's bad (and) he needs to step out of the race, there's no question of that," he said. "The problem you have is all of a sudden -- whether you're Democrat or Republican -- you can't come in 30 days before the election and say here are some unsubstantiated allegations."

"It would take so much research and questioning and lie detector tests and whatever to determine whether there's validity behind it," he said.

Dottie Finch

"At first, I really wasn't sure how I felt about the situation," said Dottie Finch, "but then I look at it this way: I don't have the best past, and to have it be brought up after years of speculation and never anything being said about it, I don't know just because he's trying to prove himself that now people want to come out of the closet and accuse him of things.

"And if it has happened, I believe the good Lord has forgiven him and he has the right to continue to prove himself."
<snip>

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/10/politics/roy-moore-alabama-reactions/index.html

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Nov 11, 2017 21:11:55   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Sargent Major, I'm also from the Great State of Alabama. Did not see the show that you reference, but I believe Hannity is a Patriot. Hannity is a Bull Dog, he has to grill the right same as the left. Otherwise he will be seen as being biased. The bottom line, Sargent Major, we the people that have been through these wars have to come home and make it our mission to educate and drive this next generation to continue to make America Great. I, truly believe that God has given America a chance to once again become the Nation that he wanted us to be.
SGM B wrote:
It pains me to say I'm afraid you are right. I heard the interview on Hannity last night with Haroldo, Jarrett (I think that's his name) and some female lawyer. Rivera is no conservative, I doubt the other two are either. My problem with the high and mighty Hannity in that interview is that he was firing questions at Judge Moore like you would expect a prosecutor to question a hostile witness.
I have never had any use for the "war hero" John McCain and his comments about Moore's suitability to be a Senator is laughable - I wonder if his x-wife thinks he is "suitable" for the Senate, you know, the one who stood by him while he was a prisoner. When this pos returned from VN he promptly divorced her and got himself a trophy wife with lots of money. The entire bunch of RINOs need replaced, ASAP! Oh, and how about the corporate raider Mitt Romney "innocent until proven guilty doesn't count in politics" - screw him and the horse he ride in on.
Sorry, but I'm from Alabama and all this BS talk about suspending the election until next year is just that - BS. Try it RINOs and you will have a real problem on your hands.
Happy Veterens Day to all my fellow OPP Veterans!!
It pains me to say I'm afraid you are right. I hea... (show quote)

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Nov 11, 2017 22:04:32   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Sargent Major, I'm also from the Great State of Alabama. Did not see the show that you reference, but I believe Hannity is a Patriot. Hannity is a Bull Dog, he has to grill the right same as the left. Otherwise he will be seen as being biased. The bottom line, Sargent Major, we the people that have been through these wars have to come home and make it our mission to educate and drive this next generation to continue to make America Great. I, truly believe that God has given America a chance to once again become the Nation that he wanted us to be.
Sargent Major, I'm also from the Great State of Al... (show quote)


PLT SGT - I agree with you, my issue with Hannity on this is that he had 1 for damn sure lib lawyer, Ravira - and two other suspect liberal lawyers, Jarrett and some female. In my experience lawyers are liberal, my daughter and her husband are both lawyers and both very liberal - she was raised conservative but law school educated that out of her. I personally think the timing of these "revelations" about Moore are very suspect.
Happy Veterns Day my friend.

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Nov 11, 2017 22:07:43   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
[quote=Loki]I posted one this morning inviting all OPP vets to list their branch of service. So far I seem to be the only soldier. Several Marines, but you know how Marines always crave the spotlight, lol. Happy Vets day to all of us. (At least I got a free cup of coffee, local restaurant gives vets free coffee on Veterans' Day.)
Once more I find the timing of these accusations awfully suspect. Moore has had a pretty controversial career, and for something like this to lay dormant for nearly four decades and then all of sudden surface a couple of weeks before an election that he looked like a shoo-in to win is just a little too damn convenient for me. One of the women is alleged to have lied about being 14, and one has accused at least three clergymen of unwanted sexual advances and has a record. One, I forget which, works or worked for Moore's opponent.[/quote

United States Army my friend, 155 self propelled howitzer in Vietnam, 1969. And happy Veterans Day to you as well. :)

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Nov 11, 2017 22:13:39   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
SGM B wrote:
PLT SGT - I agree with you, my issue with Hannity on this is that he had 1 for damn sure lib lawyer, Ravira - and two other suspect liberal lawyers, Jarrett and some female. In my experience lawyers are liberal, my daughter and her husband are both lawyers and both very liberal - she was raised conservative but law school educated that out of her. I personally think the timing of these "revelations" about Moore are very suspect.
Happy Veterns Day my friend.


Greg Jarret isn't a Liberal, but you are correct on Rivera who claims to be a Republican but is as Republican as I am Marxist.

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Nov 11, 2017 22:15:50   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
[quote=SGM B]
Loki wrote:
I posted one this morning inviting all OPP vets to list their branch of service. So far I seem to be the only soldier. Several Marines, but you know how Marines always crave the spotlight, lol. Happy Vets day to all of us. (At least I got a free cup of coffee, local restaurant gives vets free coffee on Veterans' Day.)
Once more I find the timing of these accusations awfully suspect. Moore has had a pretty controversial career, and for something like this to lay dormant for nearly four decades and then all of sudden surface a couple of weeks before an election that he looked like a shoo-in to win is just a little too damn convenient for me. One of the women is alleged to have lied about being 14, and one has accused at least three clergymen of unwanted sexual advances and has a record. One, I forget which, works or worked for Moore's opponent.

United States Army my friend, 155 self propelled howitzer in Vietnam Nam, 1969. And happy Veterans Day to you as well.
I posted one this morning inviting all OPP vets to... (show quote)


Plt Sarge, like you, is also a dogface. He too is one of the good guys.
Semper Fi.

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