Q: IS OBAMA A MUSLIM? First one must consider this: Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over...

Skyhook

First one must consider this:
Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

Lying (Taqiyya and Kitman)....

So, is Obama lying about whether or not he is Muslim? We are not likely to know the truth until he- if successful- hands over the crippled and weakened USofA to the Allaha worshipers.

Blue Flu Loc: HHI

Skyhook wrote:

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If Barry is a Muslim it can only mean that he's a far better President than a Muslim.
What kind of Muslim smokes, drinks alcohol, enjoys sexual relations with other men, runs around taking credit for killing Bin Laden, allows true believers to languish at Guantanamo and worst of all eats pork?
The link below illustrates part of the above.
Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Blue Flu wrote:

If Barry is a Muslim it can only mean that he's a far better President than a Muslim.
What kind of Muslim smokes, drinks alcohol, enjoys sexual relations with other men, runs around taking credit for killing Bin Laden, allows true believers to languish at Guantanamo and worst of all eats pork?
The link below illustrates part of the above.
Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0

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Barry may be nothing more than a terribly confused, poorly prepared for life, both self-loathingand and a severe narcissist who is merely wafting through what he knows is life, yet hasn't a clue how to lead that life.

More of his kind support him. The rest of us and the entire nation suffer because of his ignorance/greed/lost combination.

Blue Flu Loc: HHI

Tasine wrote:

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Barry may be nothing more than a terribly confused, poorly prepared for life, both self-loathingand and a severe narcissist who is merely wafting through what he knows is life, yet hasn't a clue how to lead that life.

More of his kind support him. The rest of us and the entire nation suffer because of his ignorance/greed/lost combination.

I really don't know why we spend so much time criticizing
Barry when we really ought to be criticizing Valerie Jarrett's
lame effort to run the Nation.
The Russians and Chinese recognize that we are leaderless
and are taking full advantage of that fact before the coming November elections. Their only fear is a Republican landslide that could break the stalemate in Congress that would lead to Barry's impeachment. No doubt the cash rich Chinese will be pouring tons of money into the coffers of Democrats to keep that from happening.

Greg Brady Loc: Phoenix

Skyhook wrote:

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Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Blue Flu wrote:

I really don't know why we spend so much time crit... (show quote)

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See, even in that 2nd sentence, we don't quite agree, yet we both want the same thing. I cannot blame Valerie Jarrett given her associates and probably her family. She is trained to get all she can get, and the "how to" is left up to her. The people I blame are the DNC and the RNC for her - and the entire Obama Administration for being where they are because had the Congress honestly done its job, we may have never heard of a single one of these amateurs without souls.

And an impeachment does not in itself mean he will leave his office. Think the Republicans would have enough guts to do what they should have done a long, long time ago? I've lost all faith in them, except for 3-4 newcomers who are coming of age and already fighting the good fight. I'm looking forward much more eagerly for some indictments to come down - but I don't expect it to happen.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

Tasine wrote:

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Barry may be nothing more than a terribly confused, poorly prepared for life, both self-loathingand and a severe narcissist who is merely wafting through what he knows is life, yet hasn't a clue how to lead that life.

More of his kind support him. The rest of us and the entire nation suffer because of his ignorance/greed/lost combination.

"More of his kind support him." This I disagree with. It is not more of HIS kind that are supporting him, but people taking advantage of him because of his stupidity. Poor little Berry really is stupid, but he can't help it. With his background of education and cheating all throughout his life, he has come to expect that kind of treatment. He simply doesn't know he is just being used. All he is really is a con artist.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

MrEd wrote:

"More of his kind support him." This I disagree with. It is not more of HIS kind that are supporting him, but people taking advantage of him because of his stupidity. Poor little Berry really is stupid, but he can't help it. With his background of education and cheating all throughout his life, he has come to expect that kind of treatment. He simply doesn't know he is just being used. All he is really is a con artist.

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I get your point. You could be right. At first I thought he was merely incredibly ignorant. Once I thought he is doing what he is doing deliberately, I see him as crafty and sly and without a soul. I think he is deliberately trying to destroy the US, and I must say he is doing a bang up job of it. He's just mad that we don't like the results.

Blue Flu Loc: HHI

Tasine wrote:

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I get your point. You could be right. At first I thought he was merely incredibly ignorant. Once I thought he is doing what he is doing deliberately, I see him as crafty and sly and without a soul. I think he is deliberately trying to destroy the US, and I must say he is doing a bang up job of it. He's just mad that we don't like the results.

The idea is ridiculously easy. Dilute the White conservative and middle of the road vote by signing up millions of "new voters" and he and his ilk become an unstoppable juggernaut. It's the Achilles Heel of our Democratic society.
Ideas like allowing ALL convicted felons to vote in future national elections and legalizing 20 to 30 million mostly Hispanics just hastens the end of an ideological struggle that they were going to win eventually anyway.

buffalo Loc: Texas

O is definitely not a muslim, but that does not preclude the fact that his puppet masters let him at least to appear a muslim sympathizer. If left to his own demise, O would implode. Because his only training is in community organizing and following his marxist mentors.

pixie

Tasine wrote:

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Barry may be nothing more than a terribly confused, poorly prepared for life, both self-loathingand and a severe narcissist who is merely wafting through what he knows is life, yet hasn't a clue how to lead that life.

More of his kind support him. The rest of us and the entire nation suffer because of his ignorance/greed/lost combination.

....exactly! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

cold iron Loc: White House

Skyhook wrote:

First one must consider this: br Muslim scholars t... (show quote)

Do Bears shit in the woods?

Don DeHoff

Skyhook wrote:

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Sir, your post is one of the most accurate (and timely) that I have encountered in some time. This Muslim/Islam issue is the gravest problem facing the great country since our civil War.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Don DeHoff wrote:

Sir, your post is one of the most accurate (and timely) that I have encountered in some time. This Muslim/Islam issue is the gravest problem facing the great country since our civil War.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Skyhook

Thank you... just trying to hold my end of the line like several here.