mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

A cocky Democratic foreign national gets stumped by Dinesh D'Souza over the morality of the climate change argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIPnBvxNX3A

Ricktloml

Dinesh D'Souza is a national treasure. FACTS and common sense are his staples. There are very few people who can truthfully say that they have been a political prisoner in the U.S., but D'Souza can. It is appalling that Obama could have D'Souza imprisoned on minor campaign finance violations, (when the real reason is D'Souza made a movie that exposed Obama,) when many in the Democrat party have done so much worse and NOTHING was even mentioned. The rank corruption and abuses of power by Obama, with FULL cooperation from the Democrat Party AND the media is staggering. The left feels that they HAVE to ruin Trump. They depended on Hillary being in office and destroying the evidence of this corruption and we are now starting to see just how bad things were. Sadly I have very little faith that the establishment Republicans are remotely interested in the truth coming out, as they often helped move Obama's radical agenda along, by either turning a blind eye, or even funding it. It's beyond sickening

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

What you've just said is very true Ricktoml. And I'm sure that you well know that the main reason that the left hates Trump so much is that his America first credo has put a major monkey wrench in the globalists achieving their plan of one world government, one world religion, etc. and they will do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to get rid of him. And the lemmings follow blindly.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Your missing out on one big issue here! The World will not withstand the bringing the level of progress we have In America to the whole World.
We can not or will not even extend to many of our own citizens a true level of a decent life.

What the issue on global warning is about is many of us as individuals are & have been apart of the problem.

What will & is happening is that most Americans can not & do not share in the true gains being made in productivity that is taking place.
The productivity we have is a big part of causing the pollution of our planet. Destroying the basic health of the planet.
We are at the edge of the point of failure in the ability to sustain a healthy planet.

We here in the United States with so many wanting to emulate the Wealthy in life style & the personal freedom to do so are aiding to this failure.

What D'Souza is doing is ingratiating him self to share in the material gains he seeks.

Most of us while having a good life have been blind in our allegiance to the system that rewards some so extensively.

So how will the allegiances to the future need to be modified:
The level of personal consumption for all will be reduce as the level of demand rises in the third. counties.
How or what is going to take place. Are we going to fight a war that may not even leave us with what we had before the fighting even began.
This all being to serve the Few who only wish to keep what they have & wish to gain more?

Many of Us are some what content now with what we have & only wish to keep the freedom to seek to be the best we can with what ever takes place..
The only real way to keep much of what we now have is to realize that we have to stop wishing to have it all.
A big part of that is to see that others can have better control over what they want also. The Few that see to want it all.

There is much about life in it's self that is good & nothing but staying a live & sharing life with others.
We have within our self the means to make our future one we can live with.

As far as what I see the example set by the United States & other Western Nations being follow by other Nations will only bring out the need to truly bring out the best in all to make any changes needed that can make life livable for all.

We will be faced unfillable demands & have limited resources. A way around it can & will be found.
Man kind has & will live up to the challenges.

PeterS

I thought climate change was a hoax? How can we address a morality question when the argument is that climate change is a hoax?

PeterS

A couple points: 1) whoever own's productivity benefits from it. If you sell your productivity for x amount that's all the benefit you will gain. 2) the right has won the argument over global warming. You can huff and puff all you like but even if you had proof positive; at this stage no one would listen ...

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Your obtuseness never ceases to amaze me Pete!

rebob14

That argument is 50 years out of date and is not even remotely applicable. I grew up in the 40’s and 50’s and have seen both the conditions you describe and and their remediation. That’s the biggest drawback to social movements.........after they have achieved their goals, their priesthood must constantly reinvent itself to remain significant.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Your view is a vary narrow of what is really involved. Until it hits you square in the face it looks like it will never mean any ting to you.
Well until you wake to the real reality or it all. Let me say that in the World day, very little of what goes on any where on this planet don't have an impact on every ones life in some way.

The impact of weather or too much rain in some areas & to little in other areas is a problem in many areas of the World.
Floods & drought have hurt food production in many areas. Damage by storms have caused wide spread damage to food production, housing & infrastructure.Displacing people & ruining basic needs of survival.

It is the destruction of products & means of production that raises the need to ease bad weather that cause an impact on people & the things need for their survival.

boofhead

You suggest that we are destroying the world? That the haves are using it all up leaving nothing for the rest of us? We are part of the problem?

Here is a suggestion: Fly over the US or the rest of the world ( which is, contrary to what the media will tell you, vastly bigger than America) and take a look at what you see. I defy you to find anything that supports your assumption that we are destroying the world. It is way too big and we are way too small. We are like a flea on an elephant's back. No way we can ever even remotely do what Algore the Hutt says we are doing. Global Warming is a scam pure and simple.

Ricktloml

Not only that, (and your point is an excellent one), but good old Algore has been MISERABLY WRONG on EVERY prediction he has made

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

To die is to die. We can die all at once or little by little over time.

Either way we die. There is little doubt that the actions of man kind on this Planet even in small ways is doing enough to push the heating of the planet to push it over the edge towards the over heating of the Planet.

The issue at hand is that as the rest of the World adapts to the level of consumption we have in the USA we will see more & more harsher weather.

I would say well before it gets to that point even you will see the effect in the changes in the weather. Or we could start to do things now & adapt the changes needed & you may never notice the changes.

Surface water temperatures of only a few degrees in the oceans cause an increase in the number & strength of storms. As little as 2 degrees can make the difference in damage done by the storms. Temperature on land affects storms on land also.

I would suggest that where you live be given a bit of attention to what they are projecting to happen with warmer temperature's & higher water levels of the oceans. One way or another we all will be called on to help pay for the increasing measures to make areas safer from harsh weather. Not to miss what the over all cost of food will bring.

Every one can not live in areas that will handle the changes in weather that will take place. As much as 50% may well be in danger of higher risks.

But do you care? NO just close you eyes & deny it & it will not be there.

The storms we had this past summer should have been a wake up call. HELLO! Any one there?

Look man kind is creative & we can make adjustments but to make adjustments agreement is needed on what to do.
If some see it & some don't & we do nothing when there is so much that says there is something to the warming being given.