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Oct 21, 2017 10:23:03   #
Sicilianthing
 
While you Sleep forces are drafting Encroachment patches here and there covering every aspect of your Freedoms, Bill of Rights, Constitution and you just keep taking it...


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They’re going to need more prisons
Posted on October 20, 2017 by Bob Livingston

Two bills introduced in the House of Representatives are going to, if passed, necessitate the building of more and bigger prisons because they will automatically make criminals out of millions of Americans.

The bills are H.R. 3999 (aka bump stock ban) and H.R. 4052 (aka large capacity magazine ban). Both are kneejerk reactions to the Las Vegas music festival shooting that is purported to have left 58 dead and more than 500 injured.

I warned you last week that more and stronger attempts to steal your guns were coming and explained “Why governments want gun control.” Of course it’s not to “keep you safe,” as politicians always claim. It is to turn you into slaves. Politicians believe that only the state has a monopoly on legitimate violence.

H.R. 3999 was introduced by Florida Republican Carlos Curbelo and he has lined up nine Republican co-sponsors and 10 Democrat co-sponsors.

“For the first time in decades, there is growing bipartisan consensus for sensible gun policy, a polarizing issue that has deeply divided Republicans and Democrats,” Curbelo said. “This common-sense legislation will ban devices that blatantly circumvent already existing law without restricting Second Amendment rights. I’m proud to join Representative Moulton to lead our colleagues in this important first step to address gun violence in our country and show that Congress is capable of working constructively in a bipartisan way to make Americans safer.”

Anytime a politician tells you that legislation is “common-sense” you need to hold onto your butt. You know that what he’s doing is knocking one more liberty brick from the foundation.

The legislation is typically vaguely worded and seeks to ban “the manufacture, possession, or transfer of any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but does not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun.”

This broad language would criminalize basic parts of the trigger mechanism for every semiautomatic rifle, as the sole purpose of those parts is to “increase the rate of fire” of the rifle. And everyone with a trigger finger would likewise become criminals, as these guns will fire as fast as the finger will work and the more training one has the more rapidly he is able to shoot. And “bump fire” is an achievable technique through practice without the aid of a bump stock, and even such mundane things as rubber bands and belt loops can be employed to increase the rate of fire.

Among the devices that would be banned are those used by competitive shooters like lighter pull triggers, hammer drops and polished bolts.

After initially ceding ground on bump stocks and saying that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives should revisit the legality of them, the NRA has backtracked somewhat and opposes this bill – likely because of pressure from its members who see it as capitulation and surrender to the gun grabbers. Gun Owners of America vehemently opposed a bump stock ban by any means, rightfully seeing it as an easy win and unnecessary capitulation to the anti-gun crowd.

H.R. 4052 bans the transfer or possession of “large capacity ammunition feeding devices.” These devices are defined as “a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition.”

While it grandfathers in large capacity magazines purchased before the bill becomes law, it makes it a criminal offense to transfer that device to anyone, making it impossible for anyone to dispose of them if they wanted to.

Both bills carry penalties of 10 years in prison and fines.

There aren’t enough prisons in the world to hold the people who suddenly become criminals at the stroke of a pen.

Authoritarianism or criminal government can never feel secure from fear as long as millions of people own guns. Likewise, when the people have no arms, they have no security and no hope of security.

Disarmament first comes by words and psychological warfare. Hence the attack on guns whenever people are weakened by mass murder events.

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Oct 21, 2017 10:37:27   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
While you Sleep forces are drafting Encroachment patches here and there covering every aspect of your Freedoms, Bill of Rights, Constitution and you just keep taking it...


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


They’re going to need more prisons
Posted on October 20, 2017 by Bob Livingston

Two bills introduced in the House of Representatives are going to, if passed, necessitate the building of more and bigger prisons because they will automatically make criminals out of millions of Americans.

The bills are H.R. 3999 (aka bump stock ban) and H.R. 4052 (aka large capacity magazine ban). Both are kneejerk reactions to the Las Vegas music festival shooting that is purported to have left 58 dead and more than 500 injured.

I warned you last week that more and stronger attempts to steal your guns were coming and explained “Why governments want gun control.” Of course it’s not to “keep you safe,” as politicians always claim. It is to turn you into slaves. Politicians believe that only the state has a monopoly on legitimate violence.

H.R. 3999 was introduced by Florida Republican Carlos Curbelo and he has lined up nine Republican co-sponsors and 10 Democrat co-sponsors.

“For the first time in decades, there is growing bipartisan consensus for sensible gun policy, a polarizing issue that has deeply divided Republicans and Democrats,” Curbelo said. “This common-sense legislation will ban devices that blatantly circumvent already existing law without restricting Second Amendment rights. I’m proud to join Representative Moulton to lead our colleagues in this important first step to address gun violence in our country and show that Congress is capable of working constructively in a bipartisan way to make Americans safer.”

Anytime a politician tells you that legislation is “common-sense” you need to hold onto your butt. You know that what he’s doing is knocking one more liberty brick from the foundation.

The legislation is typically vaguely worded and seeks to ban “the manufacture, possession, or transfer of any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but does not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun.”

This broad language would criminalize basic parts of the trigger mechanism for every semiautomatic rifle, as the sole purpose of those parts is to “increase the rate of fire” of the rifle. And everyone with a trigger finger would likewise become criminals, as these guns will fire as fast as the finger will work and the more training one has the more rapidly he is able to shoot. And “bump fire” is an achievable technique through practice without the aid of a bump stock, and even such mundane things as rubber bands and belt loops can be employed to increase the rate of fire.

Among the devices that would be banned are those used by competitive shooters like lighter pull triggers, hammer drops and polished bolts.

After initially ceding ground on bump stocks and saying that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives should revisit the legality of them, the NRA has backtracked somewhat and opposes this bill – likely because of pressure from its members who see it as capitulation and surrender to the gun grabbers. Gun Owners of America vehemently opposed a bump stock ban by any means, rightfully seeing it as an easy win and unnecessary capitulation to the anti-gun crowd.

H.R. 4052 bans the transfer or possession of “large capacity ammunition feeding devices.” These devices are defined as “a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition.”

While it grandfathers in large capacity magazines purchased before the bill becomes law, it makes it a criminal offense to transfer that device to anyone, making it impossible for anyone to dispose of them if they wanted to.

Both bills carry penalties of 10 years in prison and fines.

There aren’t enough prisons in the world to hold the people who suddenly become criminals at the stroke of a pen.

Authoritarianism or criminal government can never feel secure from fear as long as millions of people own guns. Likewise, when the people have no arms, they have no security and no hope of security.

Disarmament first comes by words and psychological warfare. Hence the attack on guns whenever people are weakened by mass murder events.
While you Sleep forces are drafting Encroachment p... (show quote)



Humm, this may be a way to get rid of the LEFTS obstacle to the forever rule of America. Now the RINO'S wil aid the commies.

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Oct 21, 2017 10:40:02   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Say if someone already had a boat load of high capacity magazines how would they know? Or would those someones become automatic criminals?
Sicilianthing wrote:
While you Sleep forces are drafting Encroachment patches here and there covering every aspect of your Freedoms, Bill of Rights, Constitution and you just keep taking it...


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


They’re going to need more prisons
Posted on October 20, 2017 by Bob Livingston

Two bills introduced in the House of Representatives are going to, if passed, necessitate the building of more and bigger prisons because they will automatically make criminals out of millions of Americans.

The bills are H.R. 3999 (aka bump stock ban) and H.R. 4052 (aka large capacity magazine ban). Both are kneejerk reactions to the Las Vegas music festival shooting that is purported to have left 58 dead and more than 500 injured.

I warned you last week that more and stronger attempts to steal your guns were coming and explained “Why governments want gun control.” Of course it’s not to “keep you safe,” as politicians always claim. It is to turn you into slaves. Politicians believe that only the state has a monopoly on legitimate violence.

H.R. 3999 was introduced by Florida Republican Carlos Curbelo and he has lined up nine Republican co-sponsors and 10 Democrat co-sponsors.

“For the first time in decades, there is growing bipartisan consensus for sensible gun policy, a polarizing issue that has deeply divided Republicans and Democrats,” Curbelo said. “This common-sense legislation will ban devices that blatantly circumvent already existing law without restricting Second Amendment rights. I’m proud to join Representative Moulton to lead our colleagues in this important first step to address gun violence in our country and show that Congress is capable of working constructively in a bipartisan way to make Americans safer.”

Anytime a politician tells you that legislation is “common-sense” you need to hold onto your butt. You know that what he’s doing is knocking one more liberty brick from the foundation.

The legislation is typically vaguely worded and seeks to ban “the manufacture, possession, or transfer of any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but does not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun.”

This broad language would criminalize basic parts of the trigger mechanism for every semiautomatic rifle, as the sole purpose of those parts is to “increase the rate of fire” of the rifle. And everyone with a trigger finger would likewise become criminals, as these guns will fire as fast as the finger will work and the more training one has the more rapidly he is able to shoot. And “bump fire” is an achievable technique through practice without the aid of a bump stock, and even such mundane things as rubber bands and belt loops can be employed to increase the rate of fire.

Among the devices that would be banned are those used by competitive shooters like lighter pull triggers, hammer drops and polished bolts.

After initially ceding ground on bump stocks and saying that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives should revisit the legality of them, the NRA has backtracked somewhat and opposes this bill – likely because of pressure from its members who see it as capitulation and surrender to the gun grabbers. Gun Owners of America vehemently opposed a bump stock ban by any means, rightfully seeing it as an easy win and unnecessary capitulation to the anti-gun crowd.

H.R. 4052 bans the transfer or possession of “large capacity ammunition feeding devices.” These devices are defined as “a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition.”

While it grandfathers in large capacity magazines purchased before the bill becomes law, it makes it a criminal offense to transfer that device to anyone, making it impossible for anyone to dispose of them if they wanted to.

Both bills carry penalties of 10 years in prison and fines.

There aren’t enough prisons in the world to hold the people who suddenly become criminals at the stroke of a pen.

Authoritarianism or criminal government can never feel secure from fear as long as millions of people own guns. Likewise, when the people have no arms, they have no security and no hope of security.

Disarmament first comes by words and psychological warfare. Hence the attack on guns whenever people are weakened by mass murder events.
While you Sleep forces are drafting Encroachment p... (show quote)

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Oct 21, 2017 10:40:35   #
Bevos
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
While you Sleep forces are drafting Encroachment patches here and there covering every aspect of your Freedoms, Bill of Rights, Constitution and you just keep taking it...


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


They’re going to need more prisons
Posted on October 20, 2017 by Bob Livingston

Two bills introduced in the House of Representatives are going to, if passed, necessitate the building of more and bigger prisons because they will automatically make criminals out of millions of Americans.

The bills are H.R. 3999 (aka bump stock ban) and H.R. 4052 (aka large capacity magazine ban). Both are kneejerk reactions to the Las Vegas music festival shooting that is purported to have left 58 dead and more than 500 injured.

I warned you last week that more and stronger attempts to steal your guns were coming and explained “Why governments want gun control.” Of course it’s not to “keep you safe,” as politicians always claim. It is to turn you into slaves. Politicians believe that only the state has a monopoly on legitimate violence.

H.R. 3999 was introduced by Florida Republican Carlos Curbelo and he has lined up nine Republican co-sponsors and 10 Democrat co-sponsors.

“For the first time in decades, there is growing bipartisan consensus for sensible gun policy, a polarizing issue that has deeply divided Republicans and Democrats,” Curbelo said. “This common-sense legislation will ban devices that blatantly circumvent already existing law without restricting Second Amendment rights. I’m proud to join Representative Moulton to lead our colleagues in this important first step to address gun violence in our country and show that Congress is capable of working constructively in a bipartisan way to make Americans safer.”

Anytime a politician tells you that legislation is “common-sense” you need to hold onto your butt. You know that what he’s doing is knocking one more liberty brick from the foundation.

The legislation is typically vaguely worded and seeks to ban “the manufacture, possession, or transfer of any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but does not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun.”

This broad language would criminalize basic parts of the trigger mechanism for every semiautomatic rifle, as the sole purpose of those parts is to “increase the rate of fire” of the rifle. And everyone with a trigger finger would likewise become criminals, as these guns will fire as fast as the finger will work and the more training one has the more rapidly he is able to shoot. And “bump fire” is an achievable technique through practice without the aid of a bump stock, and even such mundane things as rubber bands and belt loops can be employed to increase the rate of fire.

Among the devices that would be banned are those used by competitive shooters like lighter pull triggers, hammer drops and polished bolts.

After initially ceding ground on bump stocks and saying that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives should revisit the legality of them, the NRA has backtracked somewhat and opposes this bill – likely because of pressure from its members who see it as capitulation and surrender to the gun grabbers. Gun Owners of America vehemently opposed a bump stock ban by any means, rightfully seeing it as an easy win and unnecessary capitulation to the anti-gun crowd.

H.R. 4052 bans the transfer or possession of “large capacity ammunition feeding devices.” These devices are defined as “a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition.”

While it grandfathers in large capacity magazines purchased before the bill becomes law, it makes it a criminal offense to transfer that device to anyone, making it impossible for anyone to dispose of them if they wanted to.

Both bills carry penalties of 10 years in prison and fines.

There aren’t enough prisons in the world to hold the people who suddenly become criminals at the stroke of a pen.

Authoritarianism or criminal government can never feel secure from fear as long as millions of people own guns. Likewise, when the people have no arms, they have no security and no hope of security.

Disarmament first comes by words and psychological warfare. Hence the attack on guns whenever people are weakened by mass murder events.
While you Sleep forces are drafting Encroachment p... (show quote)


Maybe those Prisons are for all of the CORRUPT POLITICIANS, once Trump gets done draining the swamp. Maybe?

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Oct 21, 2017 11:16:12   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
Bevos wrote:
Maybe those Prisons are for all of the CORRUPT POLITICIANS, once Trump gets done draining the swamp. Maybe?


I'll keep that in mind tonight before I go to bed. That should make me sleep like a baby!

SEMPER FI

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Oct 21, 2017 11:26:24   #
Bevos
 
mongo wrote:
I'll keep that in mind tonight before I go to bed. That should make me sleep like a baby!

SEMPER FI


SEMPER FI!!!

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Oct 21, 2017 13:41:27   #
eden
 
Both sides are wrong on this issue. Banning such devices after so many are already in circulation is a waste of time since anybody with criminal intent can easily obtain. Attempts at coercive legislation just brings out the Second Amendment Ayatollahs and the real issue, finding ways to keep guns out of the hands of deranged people, goes unaddressed.
Both sides need to learn the consequences of unbridled speech. People who respond to mass shootings with calls for some sort of ban, trigger an immune response in responsible gun owners. This is dumber than a cup of rocks because a rational pragmatic approach would be to appeal to this group as potential allies in a campaign to encourage Americans to consider common sense ideas to address the problem. On the other side Second Amendment Mavens would do well to reconsider filling the air with a ferocious defense of gun ownership at a time of national shock and grief over the carnage at incidents like the Vegas shooting. It comes across as callous and indifferent to the suffering of those families and pours more gasoline on an already combusted issue, further dividing the country along existing social and political faultlines. This painfull issue will not be solved by hasty reactive legislation or making guns more accessible to people of questionable mental health. We did not acquire this problem overnight and there are no quick fixes. Unfortunately while we wait for rational leadership in this matter there are people alive today, walking and talking and living their lives who will, in the next inevitable mass shooting have their lives abruptly and painfully destroyed. It is a sobering thought.

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Oct 21, 2017 17:07:02   #
Sicilianthing
 
cold iron wrote:
Humm, this may be a way to get rid of the LEFTS obstacle to the forever rule of America. Now the RINO'S wil aid the commies.


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Did Both bills stem from just the Dem mindset or both Rigo and Dino CFR, TriLateral, NWO Minions that have infected both parties?

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Oct 21, 2017 17:10:36   #
Sicilianthing
 
JFlorio wrote:
Say if someone already had a boat load of high capacity magazines how would they know? Or would those someones become automatic criminals?


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You become an automatic subject for them... they will come knocking and then break your door down as the Scumbag Traitor Clowns In Gowns from SCOTUS just authorized the DOJ, NSA, DHS, FBI, CIA, ATF and other Rogue Unconstitutional-Treasonous Agencies will do to you next...

But you wont do anything will you ?

You’ll just let em’ roll up on you and take it right ?

What would you do ?

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Oct 21, 2017 17:14:14   #
Sicilianthing
 
Bevos wrote:
Maybe those Prisons are for all of the CORRUPT POLITICIANS, once Trump gets done draining the swamp. Maybe?


>>>>>>>>

Trump has already been compromised, this is not an opinion, this is a fact...
Trump will not drain the swamp, hes been threatened already by the families...
Trump can™t drain the swamp since he™s now part of it working for the 8 Bankster Families, Rothschilds, Crown/s, Holy Seat, Templars and Tel Aviv...

And the BEAT Goes ON !

but you’re just gonna sit there and keep taking it aren’t you ?







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Oct 21, 2017 17:19:09   #
Sicilianthing
 
eden wrote:
Both sides are wrong on this issue. Banning such devices after so many are already in circulation is a waste of time since anybody with criminal intent can easily obtain. Attempts at coercive legislation just brings out the Second Amendment Ayatollahs and the real issue, finding ways to keep guns out of the hands of deranged people, goes unaddressed.
Both sides need to learn the consequences of unbridled speech. People who respond to mass shootings with calls for some sort of ban, trigger an immune response in responsible gun owners. This is dumber than a cup of rocks because a rational pragmatic approach would be to appeal to this group as potential allies in a campaign to encourage Americans to consider common sense ideas to address the problem. On the other side Second Amendment Mavens would do well to reconsider filling the air with a ferocious defense of gun ownership at a time of national shock and grief over the carnage at incidents like the Vegas shooting. It comes across as callous and indifferent to the suffering of those families and pours more gasoline on an already combusted issue, further dividing the country along existing social and political faultlines. This painfull issue will not be solved by hasty reactive legislation or making guns more accessible to people of questionable mental health. We did not acquire this problem overnight and there are no quick fixes. Unfortunately while we wait for rational leadership in this matter there are people alive today, walking and talking and living their lives who will, in the next inevitable mass shooting have their lives abruptly and painfully destroyed. It is a sobering thought.
Both sides are wrong on this issue. Banning such d... (show quote)


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Well now, Wow and that is a Great Post... nicely put.

But the Fact that anyone scumbag thought to even put the words on paper to author and write these bills is Treason already...

These Encroachments are piling up... but no one does anything to stop them so far...

Here we are in October 2017 and the Beat Goes ON !

the Founders would have shot these Scumbags Dead, Dead, Dead ...

what will it take for you guys to take action ?

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Oct 22, 2017 10:09:57   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well now, Wow and that is a Great Post... nicely put.

But the Fact that anyone scumbag thought to even put the words on paper to author and write these bills is Treason already...

These Encroachments are piling up... but no one does anything to stop them so far...

Here we are in October 2017 and the Beat Goes ON !

the Founders would have shot these Scumbags Dead, Dead, Dead ...

what will it take for you guys to take action ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> b... (show quote)




Our founders had balls.

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Oct 22, 2017 10:44:51   #
Bevos
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>>>>>

Trump has already been compromised, this is not an opinion, this is a fact...
Trump will not drain the swamp, hes been threatened already by the families...
Trump can™t drain the swamp since he™s now part of it working for the 8 Bankster Families, Rothschilds, Crown/s, Holy Seat, Templars and Tel Aviv...

And the BEAT Goes ON !

but you’re just gonna sit there and keep taking it aren’t you ?


How soon you are ready to throw him to the wolves. Hide and watch!!!

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Oct 22, 2017 12:33:03   #
Sicilianthing
 
cold iron wrote:
Our founders had balls.


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You are so right and but they didn’t have the FED to deal with.... we need a collective community and countywide plan of organized groups, citizens and Militias to thwart any FED actions in the future.

This will happen, believe me you guys when I tell you this... in much of my research it all circles back to the FED as a huge obstacle between the rights and sovereignties of the Citizens and the FED corporate Unconstitutional Governance...

A plan will emerge soon enough.

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Oct 22, 2017 12:33:47   #
Sicilianthing
 
Bevos wrote:
How soon you are ready to throw him to the wolves. Hide and watch!!!


>>>>>

That’s not my style.
I’m giving him more time to see if he’s the greatest Poker player in Human History...

He’s got a serious Poker Face if someone really takes the time to examine his expressions and body language when he says and does things...

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