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Unlike tRump who knows only how to double down and attack when he is wrong, will Kelly be a man and apologize to Rep. Wilson?
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Oct 21, 2017 00:30:32   #
rumitoid
 
Here is what Kelly said at the beginning of his press conference: "I was stunned when I came to work yesterday morning and brokenhearted at what I saw a member of Congress doing," he said. "A member of Congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the United States to a young wife," he said. "Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred."
Here is what is terribly wrong with this statement: Rep. Wilson is a longtime family friend who was there simply as support for the widow. Sergeant La David Johnson, 25, was in a mentorship program when he was young that was under the Congress woman's tutelage. She has been close to the family for decades. The call was on speaker phone. When Kelly uses the phrase "listen on" to clearly infer she infer that she was was she was only there to eavesdrop, and not the real reason: just to support a dear friend. Kelly took what happened way out of context. First thing to apologize for.

Apology Number two: the Congress woman's account of that call has been verified. Lara Trump on Friday backed up Rep. Frederica Wilson’s (D-FL) account of President Donald Trump’s phone call to the widow of a fallen soldier, even as she said she believed the congresswoman and the press took a comment that Wilson said was hurtful to the widow out of context. While Lara Trump argued that the President’s comments were simply made public without the full context, her father-in-law launched a far less nuanced attack on Wilson. He has repeatedly accused the congresswoman of lying, even after Kelly essentially confirmed Wilson’s story. Other people who heard the call confirmed that account, and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly backed it up Thursday when he told reporters that he’d advised Trump to tell Gold Star families that their lost loved ones knew what they had signed up for. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lara-trump-confirms-wilson-account-trump-call-widow

Apology Number Three: either he was misled (lied to by Trump or another of his flunkies) or lied on Thursday when he falsely claimed that Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., had loudly boasted about obtaining money for an FBI building in Miami during a dedication ceremony he attended in 2015. (If attended that ceremony, then he is lying.)
We know this for a fact because, on Friday, the South Florida Sun Sentinel published video of Wilson’s complete remarks at the event. What the video shows is that the Wilson instead described how she and other members of Congress had rushed through legislation to name the facility for two agents who died in the line of duty in 1986, Benjamin Grogan and Jerry Dove.
Wilson did not, as Kelly had claimed the day before, boast about getting $20 million for her district from President Barack Obama. Instead, she gave credit to politicians of both parties and went on to acknowledge the heroism of the agents who were killed in a shootout with two bank robbers. “Today, it is our patriotic duty to lift up Special Agent Benjamin Grogan and Special Agent Jerry Dove from the street in South Florida, and place their names and pictures high, where the world will know that we are proud of their sacrifice, their sacrifice for our nation,” Wilson said.

Apology Number Four: further politicizing this complete debacle by insulting a sitting Democrat of Congress calling her an "empty barrel" over comments she never made.

This is what happens when a lion goes to live among monkeys to help make them proud; the lion begins to gibber and swing from trees. It seems to happen to everyone around tRump.

(If you go to Yahoo and browse "Kelly stunned and disgusted" you will find my other thread on this controversy.)

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Oct 21, 2017 00:46:29   #
JW
 
rumitoid wrote:
Here is what Kelly said at the beginning of his press conference: "I was stunned when I came to work yesterday morning and brokenhearted at what I saw a member of Congress doing," he said. "A member of Congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the United States to a young wife," he said. "Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred."
Here is what is terribly wrong with this statement: Rep. Wilson is a longtime family friend who was there simply as support for the widow. Sergeant La David Johnson, 25, was in a mentorship program when he was young that was under the Congress woman's tutelage. She has been close to the family for decades. The call was on speaker phone. When Kelly uses the phrase "listen on" to clearly infer she infer that she was was she was only there to eavesdrop, and not the real reason: just to support a dear friend. Kelly took what happened way out of context. First thing to apologize for.

Apology Number two: the Congress woman's account of that call has been verified. Lara Trump on Friday backed up Rep. Frederica Wilson’s (D-FL) account of President Donald Trump’s phone call to the widow of a fallen soldier, even as she said she believed the congresswoman and the press took a comment that Wilson said was hurtful to the widow out of context. While Lara Trump argued that the President’s comments were simply made public without the full context, her father-in-law launched a far less nuanced attack on Wilson. He has repeatedly accused the congresswoman of lying, even after Kelly essentially confirmed Wilson’s story. Other people who heard the call confirmed that account, and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly backed it up Thursday when he told reporters that he’d advised Trump to tell Gold Star families that their lost loved ones knew what they had signed up for. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lara-trump-confirms-wilson-account-trump-call-widow

Apology Number Three: either he was misled (lied to by Trump or another of his flunkies) or lied on Thursday when he falsely claimed that Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., had loudly boasted about obtaining money for an FBI building in Miami during a dedication ceremony he attended in 2015. (If attended that ceremony, then he is lying.)
We know this for a fact because, on Friday, the South Florida Sun Sentinel published video of Wilson’s complete remarks at the event. What the video shows is that the Wilson instead described how she and other members of Congress had rushed through legislation to name the facility for two agents who died in the line of duty in 1986, Benjamin Grogan and Jerry Dove.
Wilson did not, as Kelly had claimed the day before, boast about getting $20 million for her district from President Barack Obama. Instead, she gave credit to politicians of both parties and went on to acknowledge the heroism of the agents who were killed in a shootout with two bank robbers. “Today, it is our patriotic duty to lift up Special Agent Benjamin Grogan and Special Agent Jerry Dove from the street in South Florida, and place their names and pictures high, where the world will know that we are proud of their sacrifice, their sacrifice for our nation,” Wilson said.

Apology Number Four: further politicizing this complete debacle by insulting a sitting Democrat of Congress calling her an "empty barrel" over comments she never made.

This is what happens when a lion goes to live among monkeys; the lion is changed. It seems to happen to everyone around tRump.

(If you go to Yahoo and browse "Kelly stunned and disgusted" you will find my other thread on this controversy.)
Here is what Kelly said at the beginning of his pr... (show quote)



Are you going to apologize for that pack of lies?

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Oct 21, 2017 01:06:43   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
JW wrote:
Are you going to apologize for that pack of lies?


Come on JW. Why give this troll a platform?

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Oct 21, 2017 02:02:53   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
rumitoid wrote:
Here is what Kelly said at the beginning of his press conference: "I was stunned when I came to work yesterday morning and brokenhearted at what I saw a member of Congress doing," he said. "A member of Congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the United States to a young wife," he said. "Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred."
Here is what is terribly wrong with this statement: Rep. Wilson is a longtime family friend who was there simply as support for the widow. Sergeant La David Johnson, 25, was in a mentorship program when he was young that was under the Congress woman's tutelage. She has been close to the family for decades. The call was on speaker phone. When Kelly uses the phrase "listen on" to clearly infer she infer that she was was she was only there to eavesdrop, and not the real reason: just to support a dear friend. Kelly took what happened way out of context. First thing to apologize for.

Apology Number two: the Congress woman's account of that call has been verified. Lara Trump on Friday backed up Rep. Frederica Wilson’s (D-FL) account of President Donald Trump’s phone call to the widow of a fallen soldier, even as she said she believed the congresswoman and the press took a comment that Wilson said was hurtful to the widow out of context. While Lara Trump argued that the President’s comments were simply made public without the full context, her father-in-law launched a far less nuanced attack on Wilson. He has repeatedly accused the congresswoman of lying, even after Kelly essentially confirmed Wilson’s story. Other people who heard the call confirmed that account, and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly backed it up Thursday when he told reporters that he’d advised Trump to tell Gold Star families that their lost loved ones knew what they had signed up for. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lara-trump-confirms-wilson-account-trump-call-widow

Apology Number Three: either he was misled (lied to by Trump or another of his flunkies) or lied on Thursday when he falsely claimed that Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., had loudly boasted about obtaining money for an FBI building in Miami during a dedication ceremony he attended in 2015. (If attended that ceremony, then he is lying.)
We know this for a fact because, on Friday, the South Florida Sun Sentinel published video of Wilson’s complete remarks at the event. What the video shows is that the Wilson instead described how she and other members of Congress had rushed through legislation to name the facility for two agents who died in the line of duty in 1986, Benjamin Grogan and Jerry Dove.
Wilson did not, as Kelly had claimed the day before, boast about getting $20 million for her district from President Barack Obama. Instead, she gave credit to politicians of both parties and went on to acknowledge the heroism of the agents who were killed in a shootout with two bank robbers. “Today, it is our patriotic duty to lift up Special Agent Benjamin Grogan and Special Agent Jerry Dove from the street in South Florida, and place their names and pictures high, where the world will know that we are proud of their sacrifice, their sacrifice for our nation,” Wilson said.

Apology Number Four: further politicizing this complete debacle by insulting a sitting Democrat of Congress calling her an "empty barrel" over comments she never made.

This is what happens when a lion goes to live among monkeys to help make them proud; the lion begins to gibber and swing from trees. It seems to happen to everyone around tRump.

(If you go to Yahoo and browse "Kelly stunned and disgusted" you will find my other thread on this controversy.)
Here is what Kelly said at the beginning of his pr... (show quote)

What the hell??? General Kelly have nothing to apologize for!!Absolutely NOTHING!!!...He lost his son,you dimwit!! If anybody should apologize its her for calling him a racist!!She is the one who is anti veteran, anti military B***,,,sUCK ON THIS!!

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Oct 21, 2017 03:39:14   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
[quote=rumitoid]Here is what Kelly said at the beginning of his press conference: "I was stunned when I came to work yesterday morning and brokenhearted at what I saw a member of Congress doing," he said. "A member of Congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the United States to a young wife," he said. "Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred."
Here is what is terribly wrong with this statement: Rep. Wilson is a longtime family friend who was there simply as support for the widow. Sergeant La David Johnson, 25, was in a mentorship program when he was young that was under the Congress woman's tutelage. She has been close to the family for decades. The call was on speaker phone. When Kelly uses the phrase "listen on" to clearly infer she infer that she was was she was only there to eavesdrop, and not the real reason: just to support a dear friend. Kelly took what happened way out of context. First thing to apologize for.

Apology Number two: the Congress woman's account of that call has been verified. Lara Trump on Friday backed up Rep. Frederica Wilson’s (D-FL) account of President Donald Trump’s phone call to the widow of a fallen soldier, even as she said she believed the congresswoman and the press took a comment that Wilson said was hurtful to the widow out of context. While Lara Trump argued that the President’s comments were simply made public without the full context, her father-in-law launched a far less nuanced attack on Wilson. He has repeatedly accused the congresswoman of lying, even after Kelly essentially confirmed Wilson’s story. Other people who heard the call confirmed that account, and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly backed it up Thursday when he told reporters that he’d advised Trump to tell Gold Star families that their lost loved ones knew what they had signed up for. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lara-trump-confirms-wilson-account-trump-call-widow

Apology Number Three: either he was misled (lied to by Trump or another of his flunkies) or lied on Thursday when he falsely claimed that Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., had loudly boasted about obtaining money for an FBI building in Miami during a dedication ceremony he attended in 2015. (If attended that ceremony, then he is lying.)
We know this for a fact because, on Friday, the South Florida Sun Sentinel published video of Wilson’s complete remarks at the event. What the video shows is that the Wilson instead described how she and other members of Congress had rushed through legislation to name the facility for two agents who died in the line of duty in 1986, Benjamin Grogan and Jerry Dove.
Wilson did not, as Kelly had claimed the day before, boast about getting $20 million for her district from President Barack Obama. Instead, she gave credit to politicians of both parties and went on to acknowledge the heroism of the agents who were killed in a shootout with two bank robbers. “Today, it is our patriotic duty to lift up Special Agent Benjamin Grogan and Special Agent Jerry Dove from the street in South Florida, and place their names and pictures high, where the world will know that we are proud of their sacrifice, their sacrifice for our nation,” Wilson said.

Apology Number Four: further politicizing this complete debacle by insulting a sitting Democrat of Congress calling her an "empty barrel" over comments she never made.

This is what happens when a lion goes to live among monkeys to help make them proud; the lion begins to gibber and swing from trees. It seems to happen to everyone around tRump.

(If you go to Yahoo and browse "Kelly stunned and disgusted" you will find my other thread on this controversy.)[/quote



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Oct 21, 2017 13:03:16   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Frederica "flip" Wilson...check voting records on veterans rights....there you can find some things more outlandish than her costumes...

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Oct 21, 2017 17:02:22   #
rumitoid
 
JW wrote:
Are you going to apologize for that pack of lies?


It is all on video. Watch the news. And it is not a pack of lies on your say-so; you need to disprove it. If you do not try to disprove it, then you have no say in the matter.

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Oct 21, 2017 17:12:20   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
What the hell??? General Kelly have nothing to apologize for!!Absolutely NOTHING!!!...He lost his son,you dimwit!! If anybody should apologize its her for calling him a racist!!She is the one who is anti veteran, anti military B***,,,sUCK ON THIS!!


I carefully pointed out where Kelly needs to apologize. Losing a son does not give you a pass on any mistakes. Her racist claim was wrong. "Empty barrel" appears nowhere as a racial slur. But "empty barrel is still highly insulting, in all references to it or similar phrasing it means essentially "loudmouth no-nothing." The insult was also misplaced because Kelly's account of the ceremony was proven to be falsed. Rep. Wilson was a longtime friend of the family, not some covert agent who planned to trap Trump, as Kelly suggests. Why would Kelly be "stunned" that a close and dear friend in the car with the widow, Rep. Wilson, would hear on speakerphone the conversation. Did he want her to stick her head out the window? Did he want her to cover her ears and go LALALALALALALA real loud? Saying he was "stunned" is utterly ridiculous. Besides, he also listened in on the call.

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Oct 21, 2017 17:16:34   #
rumitoid
 
[quote=RETW][quote=rumitoid]Here is what Kelly said at the beginning of his press conference: "I was stunned when I came to work yesterday morning and brokenhearted at what I saw a member of Congress doing," he said. "A member of Congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the United States to a young wife," he said. "Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred."
Here is what is terribly wrong with this statement: Rep. Wilson is a longtime family friend who was there simply as support for the widow. Sergeant La David Johnson, 25, was in a mentorship program when he was young that was under the Congress woman's tutelage. She has been close to the family for decades. The call was on speaker phone. When Kelly uses the phrase "listen on" to clearly infer she infer that she was was she was only there to eavesdrop, and not the real reason: just to support a dear friend. Kelly took what happened way out of context. First thing to apologize for.

Apology Number two: the Congress woman's account of that call has been verified. Lara Trump on Friday backed up Rep. Frederica Wilson’s (D-FL) account of President Donald Trump’s phone call to the widow of a fallen soldier, even as she said she believed the congresswoman and the press took a comment that Wilson said was hurtful to the widow out of context. While Lara Trump argued that the President’s comments were simply made public without the full context, her father-in-law launched a far less nuanced attack on Wilson. He has repeatedly accused the congresswoman of lying, even after Kelly essentially confirmed Wilson’s story. Other people who heard the call confirmed that account, and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly backed it up Thursday when he told reporters that he’d advised Trump to tell Gold Star families that their lost loved ones knew what they had signed up for. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lara-trump-confirms-wilson-account-trump-call-widow

Apology Number Three: either he was misled (lied to by Trump or another of his flunkies) or lied on Thursday when he falsely claimed that Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., had loudly boasted about obtaining money for an FBI building in Miami during a dedication ceremony he attended in 2015. (If attended that ceremony, then he is lying.)
We know this for a fact because, on Friday, the South Florida Sun Sentinel published video of Wilson’s complete remarks at the event. What the video shows is that the Wilson instead described how she and other members of Congress had rushed through legislation to name the facility for two agents who died in the line of duty in 1986, Benjamin Grogan and Jerry Dove.
Wilson did not, as Kelly had claimed the day before, boast about getting $20 million for her district from President Barack Obama. Instead, she gave credit to politicians of both parties and went on to acknowledge the heroism of the agents who were killed in a shootout with two bank robbers. “Today, it is our patriotic duty to lift up Special Agent Benjamin Grogan and Special Agent Jerry Dove from the street in South Florida, and place their names and pictures high, where the world will know that we are proud of their sacrifice, their sacrifice for our nation,” Wilson said.

Apology Number Four: further politicizing this complete debacle by insulting a sitting Democrat of Congress calling her an "empty barrel" over comments she never made.

This is what happens when a lion goes to live among monkeys to help make them proud; the lion begins to gibber and swing from trees. It seems to happen to everyone around tRump.

(If you go to Yahoo and browse "Kelly stunned and disgusted" you will find my other thread on this controversy.)[/quote



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Haha. Love you guys.

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Oct 21, 2017 17:35:10   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
The poor pity hog, known as Frederick Wilson the pompous pimp momma from South Florida uses people's misery situations as free media time...so that she can vote against veterans benefits..one that is easily search on VoteSmart.org. is Wilson voting against four US soldiers families receiving death and burial benefits..2013...these hero's lost their lives and she voted against the families..just with knowing that one thing reveals her sub par character.. Wilson is political garbage...

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Oct 22, 2017 11:33:39   #
Lonewolf
 
Just think it was trump that brought Kelly's son into the discussion and it was trump who tried to deflect to what other presidents did or didn't do.
My guess tillrson will be out and right after a badly soiled kelly, trump has a habit of leting people walk the plank for him. People are like Kleenex to trump.



quote=proud republicans ]What the hell??? General Kelly have nothing to apologize for!!Absolutely NOTHING!!!...He lost his son,you dimwit!! If anybody should apologize its her for calling him a racist!!She is the one who is anti veteran, anti military B***,,,sUCK ON THIS!![/quote]

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Oct 22, 2017 12:33:57   #
rumitoid
 
JFlorio wrote:
Come on JW. Why give this troll a platform?


Destroy my platform, give some rebuttal and not whining insult.

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Oct 22, 2017 12:51:01   #
rumitoid
 
desparado wrote:
Just think it was trump that brought Kelly's son into the discussion and it was trump who tried to deflect to what other presidents did or didn't do.
My guess tillrson will be out and right after a badly soiled kelly, trump has a habit of leting people walk the plank for him. People are like Kleenex to trump.

Excellent points that will fall on the deaf ears of many on the Right.

quote=proud republicans ]What the hell??? General Kelly have nothing to apologize for!!Absolutely NOTHING!!!...He lost his son,you dimwit!! If anybody should apologize its her for calling him a racist!!She is the one who is anti veteran, anti military B***,,,sUCK ON THIS!!
Just think it was trump that brought Kelly's son i... (show quote)
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Oct 22, 2017 12:52:07   #
rumitoid
 
desparado wrote:
Just think it was trump that brought Kelly's son into the discussion and it was trump who tried to deflect to what other presidents did or didn't do.
My guess tillrson will be out and right after a badly soiled kelly, trump has a habit of leting people walk the plank for him. People are like Kleenex to trump.



quote=proud republicans ]What the hell??? General Kelly have nothing to apologize for!!Absolutely NOTHING!!!...He lost his son,you dimwit!! If anybody should apologize its her for calling him a racist!!She is the one who is anti veteran, anti military B***,,,sUCK ON THIS!!
Just think it was trump that brought Kelly's son i... (show quote)
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Excellent post, desparado.

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Oct 22, 2017 12:56:38   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
rumitoid wrote:
Destroy my platform, give some rebuttal and not whining insult.


When I mentioned that Frederick "flip" Wilson..is a complete phony... I was adding an element to the discussion...she pretends to be a hero but votes against veterans benefits...she, voted against four military families, who needed death and burial benefits ...these real heroes we're killed in Afghanistan in 2013....Now this geraldean Jones , flip Wilson character... doesn't have the integrity to point fingers...she has the facade and costume but that's a phony representation of her glory seeking real self...just as with any honest discussion ,...other elements are needed to paint the picture of her underlying motives...

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