Pope Francis Calls for One World Government
Oct 22, 2017 16:57:48 #
pafret wrote:
That single act cemented the Church's authority over temporal kings. The power to create rulers necessarily implies the power to unmake them. The church wielded this power, becoming ever more despotic until th Protestant revolution. The history is a mixed bag, they did preserve knowledge and scholarship in their monasteries until it came to fruition in age of enlightenment during the sixteen to eighteen hundreds.
It was a publicity stunt. It was a quid pro quo. The Vatican exercised power to a degree only. The secular authorities had all the armies and the Vatican knew it. It was a partnership...the point at which politics really begins corrupting any church...and the Vatican was already corrupt having conspired to keep monks, friars, priests, abbots, nuns, mothers, language etc. ad nauseum between the common folks and their ability to read and comprehend scripture for themselves. Made room for a lot of creative interpretation.
Oct 22, 2017 17:37:09 #
BigMike wrote:
It was a I publicity stunt. /I It was a quid pro... (show quote)
Yes, it was advertised in the broadsides Jahannes Gutenberg printed in 1440, seven hundred years later.
Oct 22, 2017 23:03:06 #
boatbob2 wrote:
popey francis,couldnt make a pimple,on a decent popes BUTT. I wish he would stick to popey things,and keep his pie hole shut !!!!!!
LOL I was reading down this thread and composing something in my head re Francis shutting his pie hole and saw your comment.
Oct 23, 2017 12:22:33 #
pafret wrote:
Yes, it was advertised in the broadsides Jahannes Gutenberg printed in 1440, seven hundred years later.
Excellent point. I'd like to add, I must get a Tyndale bible. In Revelation there's a passage that refers to the "pale" horse and rider. The word translated pale is the Greek word chloros...which means green. Very intriguing. Only Tyndale translated the word correctly. I wonder why.
Oct 23, 2017 12:32:02 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
Green, or pale green used to be associated with the color of death in ancient cultures.
BigMike wrote:
Excellent point. I'd like to add, I must get a Tyndale bible. In Revelation there's a passage that refers to the "pale" horse and rider. The word translated pale is the Greek word chloros...which means green. Very intriguing.
Oct 23, 2017 13:21:09 #
JFlorio wrote:
Green, or pale green used to be associated with the color of death in ancient cultures.
And death is the description of what the horse and rider brings.
It should be noted, though, in reference to prophecy the horses and riders are spirits that ride out during the seal judgements. My interpretation is that all four horses and riders have already ridden. They represent spirits of course and the colors give clues as to what they represent, keeping in mind that prophecy is about politics, nations, leaders and wars.
Spirits exercise influence. How have these spirits influenced humanity?
White horse and rider: 300 AD. Constantine has his vision of the fiery. He converts to Christianity. When the Emperor converts, if you know what's good for you, you convert. Paganism is mixed with Christianity and politics. Doesn't the Pope wear white? Popemobile white? Popeplane white? The Vatican is what that spirit has become and now it's about to remarry the State.
Black horse and rider: Lets's see. He has a scale and he's warning to not hurt the crops. Sounds like capitalism to me. Being in the black is where you're supposed to be in capitalism, right?
Red horse and rider: Communism/Socialism. That one's easy.
Pale horse and rider: Since the Greek word is green, what does this color mean? Just look at Islamic flags. Look at the trim work on their holy places, homes and shops. Green was Mohammed's favorite color. Green is the color and spirit of Islam. He was given a sword and death and hell follow him.
Nov 12, 2017 15:34:25 #
I am a long time Catholic; but this pope needs to mind his own damned business.
He lives in a bubble...i.e. behind a thirty foot wall that was constructed to keep
Muslims OUT. One thing he's done without even trying; he's blown the doctrine
of papal infallibility all to hell. I know, I know, that applies only when he is speaking
ex-cathedra on faith and morals. So......seems to me it applies perfectly to what
he is preaching.
He lives in a bubble...i.e. behind a thirty foot wall that was constructed to keep
Muslims OUT. One thing he's done without even trying; he's blown the doctrine
of papal infallibility all to hell. I know, I know, that applies only when he is speaking
ex-cathedra on faith and morals. So......seems to me it applies perfectly to what
he is preaching.
Nov 12, 2017 16:51:05 #
promilitary wrote:
I am a long time Catholic; but this pope needs to mind his own damned business.
He lives in a bubble...i.e. behind a thirty foot wall that was constructed to keep
Muslims OUT. One thing he's done without even trying; he's blown the doctrine
of papal infallibility all to hell. I know, I know, that applies only when he is speaking
ex-cathedra on faith and morals. So......seems to me it applies perfectly to what
he is preaching.
He lives in a bubble...i.e. behind a thirty foot wall that was constructed to keep
Muslims OUT. One thing he's done without even trying; he's blown the doctrine
of papal infallibility all to hell. I know, I know, that applies only when he is speaking
ex-cathedra on faith and morals. So......seems to me it applies perfectly to what
he is preaching.
Catholics and the Vatican are two different things, no doubt...and this Pope is a Liberation Theologian. He is a Marxist and believes Jesus would be too if He were to show up.
Many Protestant denominations have already signed onto the world religion bandwagon along with a few notable Evangelicals like Kenneth Copeland (who I never trusted), Joel Osteen (ditto: too sticky sweet) and Rick Warren (who I liked
).I'll do a little study to see if any Muslims have signed on with the Interfaith Movement.
Watch the Interfaith Movement!
Nov 12, 2017 16:59:26 #
BTW!
A little bible history. If you're familiar with William Tyndale you might remember he was burned alive for the heresy of translating the Scriptures from Latin to English.
His translation is the only one I know of that renders the word chloros as "green" in the passage I was referring to.
One more thing: that same Greek word was used a few more times in Revelation and every other time it was translated as "green". "A third of the green (chloros) grass was burned..." etc.
That's weird! It pays to study. Now I believe I have a leg up on deciphering Scripture.
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Pale horse and rider: Since the Greek word is green, what does this color mean? Just look at Islamic flags. Look at the trim work on their holy places, homes and shops. Green was Mohammed's favorite color. Green is the color and spirit of Islam. He was given a sword and death and hell follow him.
A little bible history. If you're familiar with William Tyndale you might remember he was burned alive for the heresy of translating the Scriptures from Latin to English.
His translation is the only one I know of that renders the word chloros as "green" in the passage I was referring to.
One more thing: that same Greek word was used a few more times in Revelation and every other time it was translated as "green". "A third of the green (chloros) grass was burned..." etc.
That's weird! It pays to study. Now I believe I have a leg up on deciphering Scripture.
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