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Oct 18, 2017 18:18:31   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Pennylynn wrote:
There are exceptions, and as you pointed out, when the life of the mother is in danger could be one of those exceptions. But, I am a firm believer that prevention is worth more than a pound of cure. Abortion is too often used in place of birth control. In the end, there is more at stake than eliminating a child, most women regret having abortions. I can only speak for myself, but I would not be able to live with myself if I ever hurt a child... and it is a child we are talking about. As for PPH, it started out as a woman's go to place for more than contraception, however it has become a big business that cares less for the health of women and more about their funding.
There are exceptions, and as you pointed out, when... (show quote)


Pennylynn do you know any woman that uses abortion for BC? If there is she should be sterilized IMHO.

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Oct 18, 2017 18:58:41   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
I say when there is completion of the sex act & the female becomes pregnant by 2 - 3 months her mind should have been made up to have the child or an abortion.

If she or her guardians support an abortion, so be it. It should be done in a safe manner.

She should be told at that time I she ever wishes to have the government provide a second abortion. To be funded by government the second abortion it will only be done if she agrees to be sterilized at the time of the second abortion.

If a stronger message is wanted It can apply at the time of the first abortion.

Abortion should never be a method of birth control. If the deed is done the price needs to be paid.

I would think that Insurance Companies could or would opt out of abortions or make some rules about having more abortions.
They may already not cover abortions that may seem to be for birth control only.

If what is in her stomach is unwanted so be it.
If she chooses to do something to her self to abort. Well Roe verses Wade has weighed in on that.

So as long as it is done in a safe & sanitary way & all agree to take part in it.

Now I can look the other way and it is no skin off of may nose if it happens.
The sex drive is strong & easy to act upon.

The World is able to keep adding people with little problem.
So I say if a child is unwanted on unlikely to be properly cared for. It is not totally out of reason to create help for some on this issue.
Of course it would be best if help came for these girls before the sex bit. Being born it to poverty is like a life sentence for mother & child.

We live in a system where seeing more people in poverty seems to be a part of the Plan.

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Oct 18, 2017 19:29:12   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I say when there is completion of the sex act & the female becomes pregnant by 2 - 3 months her mind should have been made up to have the child or an abortion.

If she or her guardians support an abortion, so be it. It should be done in a safe manner.

She should be told at that time I she ever wishes to have the government provide a second abortion. To be funded by government the second abortion it will only be done if she agrees to be sterilized at the time of the second abortion.

If a stronger message is wanted It can apply at the time of the first abortion.

Abortion should never be a method of birth control. If the deed is done the price needs to be paid.

I would think that Insurance Companies could or would opt out of abortions or make some rules about having more abortions.
They may already not cover abortions that may seem to be for birth control only.

If what is in her stomach is unwanted so be it.
If she chooses to do something to her self to abort. Well Roe verses Wade has weighed in on that.

So as long as it is done in a safe & sanitary way & all agree to take part in it.

Now I can look the other way and it is no skin off of may nose if it happens.
The sex drive is strong & easy to act upon.

The World is able to keep adding people with little problem.
So I say if a child is unwanted on unlikely to be properly cared for. It is not totally out of reason to create help for some on this issue.
Of course it would be best if help came for these girls before the sex bit. Being born it to poverty is like a life sentence for mother & child.

We live in a system where seeing more people in poverty seems to be a part of the Plan.
I say when there is completion of the sex act &... (show quote)

Sterilization is too barbaric.

There's a good chance you're saying yourself "Well not giving sterilization is also barbaric". I agree. I just don't think as a country we need to go there. It's too totalitarian.

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Oct 18, 2017 19:54:45   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Super Dave wrote:
Sterilization is too barbaric.

There's a good chance you're saying yourself "Well not giving sterilization is also barbaric". I agree. I just don't think as a country we need to go there. It's too totalitarian.


Not me, if mommy is using abortion for BC or on welfare. Daddy can't pay child support too bad, no more kids. Then Mommy giving birth to a drug addicted baby, zap you're tubes are tied.

Dave you don't complain about welfare or crime do you?

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Oct 18, 2017 21:19:24   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
proud republican wrote:
I know some of you will be disappointed,but i believe that if woman's life is in danger,if she was raped,if she is a teenager and had incestual relationship and got pregnant, then i believe abortion is acceptable during this first 3 months of pregnancy....I also think that Planned Parenthood does a lot more for women then doing abortions....So i know you guys not gonna be happy with my stands on abortion, im ready to hear what you have to say....Thanks

I'll be succinct and absolute because this is an absolute issue...abortion is the murder of a human being. This is non-negotiable.

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Oct 18, 2017 21:33:01   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
mwdegutis wrote:
I'll be succinct and absolute because this is an absolute issue...abortion is the murder of a human being. This is non-negotiable.


Tell it to SCOTUS.

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Oct 18, 2017 22:19:03   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Pennylynn do you know any woman that uses abortion for BC? If there is she should be sterilized IMHO.


BB,

According to statistics, back in 2012, 34 percent of abortions were repeats. So, it would seem that 34 percent of women having abortions are using it as a means of birth control.

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Oct 18, 2017 22:43:10   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Not me, if mommy is using abortion for BC or on welfare. Daddy can't pay child support too bad, no more kids. Then Mommy giving birth to a drug addicted baby, zap you're tubes are tied.

Dave you don't complain about welfare or crime do you?


I do complain about both.

I also complain about theft, but I don't believe in cutting the hands off.

The root cause of a large amount of welfare and crime is liberalism. Live children is not the cause of anything bad.

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Oct 18, 2017 23:03:29   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Super Dave wrote:
I do complain about both.

I also complain about theft, but I don't believe in cutting the hands off.

The root cause of a large amount of welfare and crime is liberalism. Live children is not the cause of anything bad.


Easy to blame the "bogie man".

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Oct 19, 2017 01:28:35   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Easy to blame the "bogie man".


I just think it's an extremely very small number of problems that is cured by killing innocent children.

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Oct 19, 2017 05:32:48   #
Radiance3
 
proud republican wrote:
I know some of you will be disappointed,but i believe that if woman's life is in danger,if she was raped,if she is a teenager and had incestual relationship and got pregnant, then i believe abortion is acceptable during this first 3 months of pregnancy....I also think that Planned Parenthood does a lot more for women then doing abortions....So i know you guys not gonna be happy with my stands on abortion, im ready to hear what you have to say....Thanks


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Many of those who are raped are because of their behavior. They become so slotty that men are tempted to commit wrong.
Two make it happen. Without the other nothing will happen. Notice that those raped are among the groups of people where morals are down the toilet. E.g. Hollywood. For a moral person, if they noticed that there is wrong happening, that person must get out or leave, then report immediately to the law enforcement. But they keep quiet hoping for fame and money. Then when things explode uncontrolled, they all came out together to share the money, but its too late, because the harasser had hurt and exploited so many already. They must report the matter right away, instead of waiting.

Some women especially on diverse race, like black or white, there were events that black women accuse a white person of sex harassment, but turned out fake. E.g. The black women who accused O'Reilly of sexual harassment is now sitting in jail for false claims among others also.

Some women also make false allegations about harassment from wealthy men.. The purpose is to extort money, and to destroy that accused or opponent for political reasons. Very common on those women on TV, especially the liberal MSM.

Abortion could be prohibited. Morals should start at an early age, how women must guard their bodies. But morals at present is gone in most young generation. Their role model is Hollywood. Their bare bodies are displayed.

Abortion must not be tolerated. It is immoral, and against the law of God. Killing is down right a crime.
However, for those who are raped, and in order to save the life of the mother, abortion may be justifiable.

Otherwise, abortion is a crime against god and against humanity. Especially when women do it frequently as a hobby,
or having sex with any men they find on the streets. These are the liberals/democrat women mostly associated with these crimes because their morals are so low. Then they require taxpayers to pay for their criminal activities of abortion. And then when they are not paid by the tax money, they complain of discrimination.

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Oct 19, 2017 05:35:10   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
proud republican wrote:
Why not incest??? To me its the same as rape,only worse because its done by a family member who supposed to protect his child.....


Incest, defenseless child?
Maybe some type of amputation would be better .
Abortion is a women's choice, but should be limited with the exception of rape.
To go abort time and time again, some sort of punishment, huge $ fine, incarceration, don't know but something.
Just my opinion.

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Oct 19, 2017 05:56:08   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Many of those who are raped are because of their behavior. They become so slotty that men are tempted to commit wrong.
Two make it happen. Without the other nothing will happen. Notice that those raped are among the groups of people where morals are down the toilet. E.g. Hollywood. For a moral person, if they noticed that there is wrong happening, that person must get out or leave, then report immediately to the law enforcement. But they keep quiet hoping for fame and money. Then when things explode uncontrolled, they all came out together to share the money, but its too late, because the harasser had hurt and exploited so many already. They must report the matter right away, instead of waiting.

Some women especially on diverse race, like black or white, there were events that black women accuse a white person of sex harassment, but turned out fake. E.g. The black women who accused O'Reilly of sexual harassment is now sitting in jail for false claims among others also.

Some women also make false allegations about harassment from wealthy men.. The purpose is to extort money, and to destroy that accused or opponent for political reasons. Very common on those women on TV, especially the liberal MSM.

Abortion could be prohibited. Morals should start at an early age, how women must guard their bodies. But morals at present is gone in most young generation. Their role model is Hollywood. Their bare bodies are displayed.

Abortion must not be tolerated. It is immoral, and against the law of God. Killing is down right a crime.
However, for those who are raped, and in order to save the life of the mother, abortion may be justifiable.

Otherwise, abortion is a crime against god and against humanity. Especially when women do it frequently as a hobby,
or having sex with any men they find on the streets. These are the liberals/democrat women mostly associated with these crimes because their morals are so low. Then they require taxpayers to pay for their criminal activities of abortion. And then when they are not paid by the tax money, they complain of discrimination.
================ br Many of those who are raped ar... (show quote)


Rape victims often put themselves in bad places by making stupid choices.

But it's still not their fault if they are forced.

That's like saying you take part in your own assault just because you drive into the wrong part of town, have a flat, and someone beats the crap out of you and takes your wallet while you're changing the tire.

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Oct 19, 2017 06:05:34   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
I know some of you will be disappointed,but i believe that if woman's life is in danger,if she was raped,if she is a teenager and had incestual relationship and got pregnant, then i believe abortion is acceptable during this first 3 months of pregnancy....I also think that Planned Parenthood does a lot more for women then doing abortions....So i know you guys not gonna be happy with my stands on abortion, im ready to hear what you have to say....Thanks

It is 28 times as likely a woman will die carrying a pregnancy to term than having a first trimester abortion. As long as this is the case it is unconscionable and unconstitutional to deny women the right to choose whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term. This has been settled law for almost half a century and is just common sense. The decision is the woman’s alone to make and anyone who is not pregnant themselves has no business at all in the decision.

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Oct 19, 2017 06:15:33   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Kevyn wrote:
It is 28 times as likely a woman will die carrying a pregnancy to term than having a first trimester abortion. As long as this is the case it is unconscionable and unconstitutional to deny women the right to choose whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term. This has been settled law for almost half a century and is just common sense. The decision is the woman’s alone to make and anyone who is not pregnant themselves has no business at all in the decision.
IOW..

Slavery is not so bad if you aren't the slave.

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