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The Fatal Flaw in Trump’s U.N. Speech Could Be Disastrous for American Power
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Sep 21, 2017 09:58:54   #
vernon
 
slatten49 wrote:
Yes, Roy, I listened to Trump's speech to the U.N. And, just as you, I do my own thinking while determining if others deserve credence. The fact that people do not always align in thought does not speak to anyone's inability to think for themselves. People's viewing things differently is the point to a quote attributed to George Croly, an Irish poet, novelist, historian, and Anglican priest from the 19th century:

"There are few things more singular than the blindness which, in matters of the highest importance to ourselves, often hides the truth that is plain as noon to other eyes."
Yes, Roy, I listened to Trump's speech to the U.N.... (show quote)



Has Trump ever said or done anything you agree with.

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Sep 21, 2017 10:06:13   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
vernon wrote:
Has Trump ever said or done anything you agree with.

Occasionally. But, then, like so many politicians, it often amounts to no more than empty rhetoric.

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Sep 21, 2017 10:16:14   #
debeda
 
Owl32 wrote:
I like him just like I liked IKE. Pull his chain once to often, have a hole to crawl in for here he comes,
ready or not. God Bless Donald Trump!

I like him just like I liked IKE. Pull his chain ... (show quote)


👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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Sep 21, 2017 10:36:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
slatten49 wrote:
Occasionally. But, then, like so many politicians, it often amounts to no more than empty rhetoric.


"But, then, like so many politicians, it often amounts to no more than empty rhetoric." - slat

TRUE;The Beast as an option you could live with.?

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Sep 21, 2017 10:51:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"But, then, like so many politicians, it often amounts to no more than empty rhetoric." - slat

TRUE;The Beast as an option you could live with.?

Come on, EE, you should have well known that I voted for neither. If you didn't/don't, you weren't paying attention.

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Sep 21, 2017 11:06:13   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
slatten49 wrote:
Come on, EE, you should have well known that I voted for neither. If you didn't/don't, you weren't paying attention.


I should have known that, slat.
I spent 40 years voting third party.
I did not fall for "The Fix". The "R&D; no one else can win, so don't throw away your vote" scam
Then came Ron Paul, and the RNC sabotaged him.
Then came Trump, who the RNC did not back; a glimmer of hope.
So given only Hillary or Trump, and under the threat of being shot for not voting;

After holding your nose;
Who would you have voted for?

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Sep 21, 2017 12:43:17   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
PeterS wrote:
So you think telling the truth is being a dick? Interesting. I'm going to have to write that one down...


Being exposed to the truth certainly didn't affect you. You still love and worship the ugly harridan that is still married to the serial adulterer. It never ceases to amaze me how you Leftist demagogues can live with yourselves.

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Sep 21, 2017 15:24:27   #
E
 
Morgan wrote:
I already knew everyone on the right would disagree with me before I wrote the post.

China has been building up to surpass us for decades, thanks to the US manufacturers moving over there, thanks to capitalism usurping loyalism. Obama did try and curtail it and met with disapproval from China, understandable, but that doesn't mean they didin't respect him as a person, which one can do easily with Trump. China's locomotion hasn't slowed down.

China overtook the US as the largest economy in 2014, which, in terms of historical significance, can compare to the US surpassing Britain in real GDP in 1872.

By mid-2016, China’s real GDP was already 12% higher than that of the US.

At the end of 2015, China’s total manufacturing output represented 150% of the US or was equivalent to the combined total of the US and Japan.

China’s factory output would be as much as the sum of the US, Japan, and Europe in 10 years.

Now they are busy buying our real estate, knowing our constitutional laws and their military.

They surpass us in population, you see what I'm seeing?

Now your other references are who we are in conflict with, Putin/Russia, N.Korea, Iran, as far as Israel, and Muslims ...that's just BS.
I already knew everyone on the right would disagre... (show quote)


To sort of quote your first line, 'I already knew Morgan would disagree with me before I wrote the post.'

You are a liberal who thinks the last POS POTUS walked on water. He didn't. He was the worst president in my lifetime and he was not liked around the world or respected. He was used like a sucker in a three card monte game. He hated America and still does. He only liked himself. Maybe his kids.

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Sep 21, 2017 15:54:33   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Morgan wrote:
As far as speeches went I thought it might have been his best, he made some valid points, I thought him mentioning the US doing the lion's share of things and now was time to work together and for other countries to step up a little more to pull their share, was good.

He went a little rogue from his written speech when calling Kim Jung-un rocketman was not in his own best interest, it was disrespectful and he only loses credibility not to mention following it up with his threat, as a schoolyard bully. It appears Trump can't resist that sort of demeaning dialog.

But all in all, not terrible.
As far as speeches went I thought it might have be... (show quote)


Seems like other world leaders have picked up the moniker "rocket man" and are also using it too.

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Sep 21, 2017 19:41:27   #
vernon
 
PeterS wrote:
He became wealthy because he started out wealthy and then learned the neat trick of ripping off all of his vendors and lenders--thus putting all of his bankruptcies off on them. The only thing that proves is that on top of everything else he has no moral character--ironic when you think that his biggest supporters are religious hypocrites such as yourself--you hate homosexuality but an unrepentant adulterer doesn't bother you in the least. That's classic padre and it just goes to show what pieces of human garbage you people really are. You should go pray with him sometime padre since you both seem to worship the same god--Trump!
He became wealthy because he started out wealthy a... (show quote)



That is just plain lies.

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Sep 21, 2017 19:42:47   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
PeterS wrote:
He became wealthy because he started out wealthy and then learned the neat trick of ripping off all of his vendors and lenders--thus putting all of his bankruptcies off on them. The only thing that proves is that on top of everything else he has no moral character--ironic when you think that his biggest supporters are religious hypocrites such as yourself--you hate homosexuality but an unrepentant adulterer doesn't bother you in the least. That's classic padre and it just goes to show what pieces of human garbage you people really are. You should go pray with him sometime padre since you both seem to worship the same god--Trump!
He became wealthy because he started out wealthy a... (show quote)


Trump did have the advantage of a $1M start up from his father, which he did pay back.

Still, to.turn that $1M into billions requires business acumen.

Now if you are saying that his billions came from ripping off his venders and lenders, you are saying his holdings amount to trillions. The money represented by the lenders and venders are small compared to the value of the finished products and those increase in value through time.

You need to look into these alleged bankruptcies. Of some hundreds of businesses, less than one dozen have filed bankruptcy. That, if you understand business, is a phenomenal success ratio and those bankruptcies amount to a small portion of his entire portfolio consequently your comments to which I am replying are false.

I understand you don't like him. That is no excuses for misrepresenting fact.

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