OPP Left wingers let's all get on Board with the Trump supporters (Page 5): kinda amusing actually. apparently the theory behind Marxism was to protect the individual and it was...

debeda

son of witless wrote:

Marxism is about the government controlling everything. If you are a good little sheep you get taken care of. Government overseers are more benevolent than capitalist bosses. Individual initiative is punished because it is a threat to the authority of the government capos. It sure sounds like the Democratic Party platform to me.

kinda amusing actually. apparently the theory behind Marxism was to protect the individual and it was twisted to create control and perpetuation of power for the elite...

My problem with the current iteration of the Democratic party is that while average people get poorer and poorer the politicians get richer and richer. Kinda like what they accuse "business" of doing to employees....

son of witless

debeda wrote:

kinda amusing actually. apparently the theory behind Marxism was to protect the individual and it was twisted to create control and perpetuation of power for the elite...

My problem with the current iteration of the Democratic party is that while average people get poorer and poorer the politicians get richer and richer. Kinda like what they accuse "business" of doing to employees....

Democrats are masters of grievance politics. They break people up into groups and tell those people that they have been victimized by other groups. Democrats tell the have nots that the haves need to be punished and your friends in the Democratic Party will help you get even. Blacks are told that White America is the reason they are not prospering. The same with Hispanics. The poor are told that only the Democratic Party can save them from the evil rich.

Grievance politics or get even politics are the stock and trade of Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and Communists.

debeda

son of witless wrote:

Democrats are masters of grievance politics. They ... (show quote)

AGREED

Airforceone

E wrote:

:the political, economic, and social principles an... (show quote)

Workers should enjoy better pay
Workers should have a decent standard of Living
Workers should have good Healthcare

Is that what you're against

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Workers should, or shall? Should the guy that mows lawns make enough to have a Cadillac health care plan, send his three kids through college,
and have a decent (who defines?) standard of living or should the free market determine his monetary worth?

tdsrnest wrote:

Workers should enjoy better pay
Workers should have a decent standard of Living
Workers should have good Healthcare

Is that what you're against

archie bunker Loc: Texas

JFlorio wrote:

Workers should, or shall? Should the guy that mows lawns make enough to have a Cadillac health care plan, send his three kids through college,
and have a decent (who defines?) standard of living or should the free market determine his monetary worth?

Yes. Everyone should have the same standard of living, and not be held responsible for their life choices. Everything should flow to, and from the governmment.

Even mass killers shouldn't be held accountable for their decisions because the government didn't ban the tools he used to perpetrate the mass killing.

Jim, this guy is a nut job of the highest order. I did some reading last night, (research) and his thread posted on guns (one of them) was pretty much copied word for word from a rant by Jimmy Kimmel.
This guy is a plagiarist phony, and a pathological lier who bitches about pathological liars.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Oh I know Arch. He's a lying POS and a coward. However; On occasion I debate him hoping others on the left might see the other side. I know he's a waste of air.

archie bunker wrote:

Yes. Everyone should have the same standard of liv... (show quote)

Airforceone

JFlorio wrote:

Workers should, or shall? Should the guy that mows lawns make enough to have a Cadillac health care plan, send his three kids through college,
and have a decent (who defines?) standard of living or should the free market determine his monetary worth?

We are not talking about a guy cutting grass but don't you think he should at least get a decent wage. Is the guy cutting grass does he need health Insurance nobody is talking about Cadillac plans. Why do you people always look at the worst possible condition.

Is it fair for you to pay a higher premium because that guy cutting grass has no insurance he gets sick or hurt goes to the ER gets medical attention cannot pay the bill and you end up paying higher premiums.

My son works he earns 6 figures he contacted an incurable kidney disease and due to the illness he could not get medical insurance at any cost. He worked in a red state that does not agree with any kind of workers rights so his boss fired him because his insurance premiums were going up on his company based policy because of my sons disease. Is that fair this is the republican philosophy screw the working man. Now incurable Kidney disease and no job no health Insurance and this is exceptable to Trump supporters. He could not get Insurance at any cost, he could not get a decent job because of why his former employer laid him off. He worked stocking shelves at K-Mart for $8.35 an hour. He went from earning $120,000 a year to stocking shelves in K-Mart all because he got sick and lived in a red state. This is okay with you.

For almost two years with mounting medical bills he lost everything and had to come live with me. Then the ACA got passed within 7 days he had medical insurance great BC/BS anthem.
Guess what now that he had his own medical insurance his boss hired him back. But this is exceptable to the right wing way of thinking thank God you did not have to experience what my son has gone thru. Now there are 400,000 people in this country going thru the same thing. But right wing Trump supporters could give a shit let these people die because that who you people are as long as it's not effecting you it's not a problem. This is what makes Trump supporters act just like Trump just a bunch of heartless cock suckers. Just like the 58 dead in LV those 28 kids shot in an elementary school you could give a shit less as long as you protect you're second amendment rights. Fu$k those kids let's give everybody a gun or a semi automatic add attachments make them automatic we can kill more. Put these guns in the hands of the mentally disable who gives a shit the NRA controls the Republican Party. That's you're capitalist fu$k life just give everybody a gun as long as the gun manufactors are making millions.

And you're answer is fu$k that guy that's mowing grass. What makes you think that you're so much better than a guy cutting grass. You're an idiot and a selfish piece of garbage.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

No. My answer is fuk you. Your story sounds like another lie.

tdsrnest wrote:

We are not talking about a guy cutting grass but don't you think he should at least get a decent wage. Is the guy cutting grass does he need health Insurance nobody is talking about Cadillac plans. Why do you people always look at the worst possible condition.

Is it fair for you to pay a higher premium because that guy cutting grass has no insurance he gets sick or hurt goes to the ER gets medical attention cannot pay the bill and you end up paying higher premiums.

My son works he earns 6 figures he contacted an incurable kidney disease and due to the illness he could not get medical insurance at any cost. He worked in a red state that does not agree with any kind of workers rights so his boss fired him because his insurance premiums were going up on his company based policy because of my sons disease. Is that fair this is the republican philosophy screw the working man. Now incurable Kidney disease and no job no health Insurance and this is exceptable to Trump supporters. He could not get Insurance at any cost, he could not get a decent job because of why his former employer laid him off. He worked stocking shelves at K-Mart for $8.35 an hour. He went from earning $120,000 a year to stocking shelves in K-Mart all because he got sick and lived in a red state. This is okay with you.

For almost two years with mounting medical bills he lost everything and had to come live with me. Then the ACA got passed within 7 days he had medical insurance great BC/BS anthem.
Guess what now that he had his own medical insurance his boss hired him back. But this is exceptable to the right wing way of thinking thank God you did not have to experience what my son has gone thru. Now there are 400,000 people in this country going thru the same thing. But right wing Trump supporters could give a shit let these people die because that who you people are as long as it's not effecting you it's not a problem. This is what makes Trump supporters act just like Trump just a bunch of heartless cock suckers. Just like the 58 dead in LV those 28 kids shot in an elementary school you could give a shit less as long as you protect you're second amendment rights. Fu$k those kids let's give everybody a gun or a semi automatic add attachments make them automatic we can kill more. Put these guns in the hands of the mentally disable who gives a shit the NRA controls the Republican Party. That's you're capitalist fu$k life just give everybody a gun as long as the gun manufactors are making millions.

And you're answer is fu$k that guy that's mowing grass. What makes you think that you're so much better than a guy cutting grass. You're an idiot and a selfish piece of garbage.

We are not talking about a guy cutting grass but d... (show quote)

debeda

tdsrnest wrote:

We are not talking about a guy cutting grass but don't you think he should at least get a decent wage. Is the guy cutting grass does he need health Insurance nobody is talking about Cadillac plans. Why do you people always look at the worst possible condition.

Is it fair for you to pay a higher premium because that guy cutting grass has no insurance he gets sick or hurt goes to the ER gets medical attention cannot pay the bill and you end up paying higher premiums.

My son works he earns 6 figures he contacted an incurable kidney disease and due to the illness he could not get medical insurance at any cost. He worked in a red state that does not agree with any kind of workers rights so his boss fired him because his insurance premiums were going up on his company based policy because of my sons disease. Is that fair this is the republican philosophy screw the working man. Now incurable Kidney disease and no job no health Insurance and this is exceptable to Trump supporters. He could not get Insurance at any cost, he could not get a decent job because of why his former employer laid him off. He worked stocking shelves at K-Mart for $8.35 an hour. He went from earning $120,000 a year to stocking shelves in K-Mart all because he got sick and lived in a red state. This is okay with you.

For almost two years with mounting medical bills he lost everything and had to come live with me. Then the ACA got passed within 7 days he had medical insurance great BC/BS anthem.
Guess what now that he had his own medical insurance his boss hired him back. But this is exceptable to the right wing way of thinking thank God you did not have to experience what my son has gone thru. Now there are 400,000 people in this country going thru the same thing. But right wing Trump supporters could give a shit let these people die because that who you people are as long as it's not effecting you it's not a problem. This is what makes Trump supporters act just like Trump just a bunch of heartless cock suckers. Just like the 58 dead in LV those 28 kids shot in an elementary school you could give a shit less as long as you protect you're second amendment rights. Fu$k those kids let's give everybody a gun or a semi automatic add attachments make them automatic we can kill more. Put these guns in the hands of the mentally disable who gives a shit the NRA controls the Republican Party. That's you're capitalist fu$k life just give everybody a gun as long as the gun manufactors are making millions.

And you're answer is fu$k that guy that's mowing grass. What makes you think that you're so much better than a guy cutting grass. You're an idiot and a selfish piece of garbage.

We are not talking about a guy cutting grass but d... (show quote)

Very creative. I have many relatives in Missouri a long time red state. they often complain that those folks "on the dole" get better health care than those that pay for it. Being the good kind Democrat you are you should've taken on your "son's" problems and paid for his care.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Why should he? When he can get people he hates like me to pay for it.

debeda wrote:

Very creative. I have many relatives in Missouri a long time red state. they often complain that those folks "on the dole" get better health care than those that pay for it. Being the good kind Democrat you are you should've taken on your "son's" problems and paid for his care.

debeda

JFlorio wrote:

Why should he? When he can get people he hates like me to pay for it.

TRUE STORY!! Why should anyone pay when they can others to give all for free.....

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

tdsrnest wrote:

Yup typical Trump supporter answer everything its a lie. I dreamed up that situation that my family is been through and still worrying about what the future will bring my family with a bunch of uncaring cock suckers like you. But only that fat freak in the White tells the truth even though he is proven to be pathological liar everyday.

I'm sure you did coward. The exchanges didn't even work for months but your boy got Obamacare right away. Sounds reasonable.

Airforceone

JFlorio wrote:

I'm sure you did coward. The exchanges didn't even work for months but your boy got Obamacare right away. Sounds reasonable.

What a stupid statement those exchanges are working great now. Typical garbage comment go back 5 years

archie bunker Loc: Texas

tdsrnest wrote:

What a stupid statement those exchanges are working great now. Typical garbage comment go back 5 years

Damn you're dumb! The exchanges didn't work for months at first. How many billions were funneled to Obama friends to get them up and running?

The point is, you're a liar. It took months for them to make that shit work. But you claim your son got it practically the day it was passed.
Move on dweeb. You aren't dealing with stupid people here. You're out of your league. Go away!