Discussion on Gun Control: That was a topic and I tried to respond to it. Locked my computer up so I'll respond to it here. Gun Control is putting the cross hair 2" low at 50 yards. 1"...

teabag09

That was a topic and I tried to respond to it. Locked my computer up so I'll respond to it here.

Gun Control is putting the cross hair 2" low at 50 yards. 1" low at 100 yards and dead on at 200 yards. Beyond 200 yards I don't often shoot but some are proficient with and beyond that. You'll have to discuss holdover with them. Of course you need to do a little math depending on humidity, breeze etc. Closer than 50 yards, use the semi - auto hand gun. Hell, you have 15 to 18 rounds. Let him close to within 15 yards, 45 feet, but no closer before you empty a magazine into him. Of course if he quits wiggling before you waste extra rounds, stop shooting.

That is gun control to me. Mike

peter11937 Loc: NYS

teabag09 wrote:

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I like that thought!

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Idont have guns but i believe in second amendment ,,,Ialso believe guns dont kill people, people kill people

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

teabag09 wrote:

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In my mind gun control is know what gun to use at what range. From 600 - 800, I use a 300 win.mag. From 1200 - 1760 I like a 50 BAR. Most things i the middle there can be done nicely with a 416 Rigby.
When it comes to hand guns, fast acquisition after recoil is a must, still hitting your target after ward, must become fact.

Ricktloml

teabag09 wrote:

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You are exactly right, everything else is about controlling people

Loki Loc: Georgia

Rainrider wrote:

In my mind gun control is know what gun to use at what range. From 600 - 800, I use a 300 win.mag. From 1200 - 1760 I like a 50 BAR. Most things i the middle there can be done nicely with a 416 Rigby.
When it comes to hand guns, fast acquisition after recoil is a must, still hitting your target after ward, must become fact.

I see that use enough gun is not a problem with you. I have a somewhat different solution. From 100 to about 400 yards I use a .308. Anything longer than that, I pass on the shot, although I have hit a lot of 500 yard targets under ideal conditions. (Nearly twice that if you count the M60,lol).
If you own a .300 Winchester and don't reload, you are missing an opportunity. That is one of the most reloadable cartridges made. It's been my experience that the .300 can be reloaded further from factory specs than many other calibers without suffering a loss in accuracy. For that matter, so can a .375 H&H. However, I have never owned a .375. Fired 'em and reloaded for 'em, though.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

My biggest gun in my inventory is a 243 .

As of to date none of them have ever killed any human beings

Loki Loc: Georgia

proud republican wrote:

Idont have guns but i believe in second amendment ,,,Ialso believe guns dont kill people, people kill people

Correct. People kill people. They use guns to do so. Of course, they also use knives, baseball bats, pieces of steel pipe, bare hands, axes, cars, bombs, poison, you name it.
We don't have a right to bear muskets; we have a right to bear arms. When the Amendment was written, that included guns, knives, clubs, spears, bows and arrows, axes, anything that could be used as an offensive or defensive weapon.

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

Loki wrote:

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I reload everything. From my 38 on up. I have found that my 56-06 will shoot almost any load, where as my 300 is a bit more picky. If I change the load any, I have to re-sight the thing for that load. My 50 doesn't get used much, mostly for Bison. The 300 is my work horse though. Used the 44 mag a time or 2 for deer, the 357 has taken one or 2 deer. Then there is the all time fav. 22 LR. Good for out to around 150 on a good day. In the end though, it is all about the right tool for the job.

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

4430 wrote:

My biggest gun in my inventory is a 243 .

As of to date none of them have ever killed any human beings

And over 200000 other guns can make that same claim. Well legal gun owners anyway.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Rainrider wrote:

I reload everything. From my 38 on up. I have found that my 56-06 will shoot almost any load, where as my 300 is a bit more picky. If I change the load any, I have to re-sight the thing for that load. My 50 doesn't get used much, mostly for Bison. The 300 is my work horse though. Used the 44 mag a time or 2 for deer, the 357 has taken one or 2 deer. Then there is the all time fav. 22 LR. Good for out to around 150 on a good day. In the end though, it is all about the right tool for the job.

I used to reload a lot. Not so much anymore. I had one hell of a load for a .45 ACP. Not recommended for constant use. 210 gr JHC Sierra in front of 9.1 (not a misprint) grains of Unique. Out of my Gold Cup, it chronographed something like 1240 fps 5 shot average. This is considerably higher than the maximum load recommended in the Speer manual I was using.

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

Loki wrote:

I used to reload a lot. Not so much anymore. I had one hell of a load for a .45 ACP. Not recommended for constant use. 210 gr JHC Sierra in front of 9.1 (not a misprint) grains of Unique. Out of my Gold Cup, it chronographed something like 1240 fps 5 shot average. This is considerably higher than the maximum load recommended in the Speer manual I was using.

Sounds like a nice load I may try it for fun. Although I keep my 45 at, under 700fps, so I know I won't be get a trhough and through if I ever have to use it in the house. I once tried bluedot, great for my mags, sucks in a 45. Way to much unbrunt powder left inside.
Everything I have other than my 45 I call workers. They are for putting meat on the table.

Big dog

teabag09 wrote:

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Gun control is simply hitting what you're aiming at, regardless of the range to your target.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Rainrider wrote:

Sounds like a nice load I may try it for fun. Although I keep my 45 at, under 700fps, so I know I won't be get a trhough and through if I ever have to use it in the house. I once tried bluedot, great for my mags, sucks in a 45. Way to much unbrunt powder left inside.
Everything I have other than my 45 I call workers. They are for putting meat on the table.

At the time I had a Gold cup and a Ruger .357. I was a little obsessed with getting the ultimate load for both. The heavy .45 load was "unique" (pardon the pun) because a load that powerful is rarely as accurate as the more sensible loads. The most accurate load in the Ruger was a little below factory spec.
I found that other than the .300 and the 30/06, I got better accuracy if I stayed pretty close to factory specs, although I did have a heavy load 220 grain spitzer that I used in the 30/06 that was loaded down some and was quite accurate out to about 250. After that you got a lot of drop.

Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

At my age, I am not very concerned with long range shooting anymore: 100 yards is about the max. So I have standardized on 9 mm weapons and a 12 gage, almost purely for self defense, although I do have a 7.62 mm Russian sporterized rifle with no good ammo and no scope. (The 7.62 was picked up from the body of a Chinese soldier by my father during the Korean War, and he had it worked over in Japan. So it is simply a keepsake.)