Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

That was meant if she decided the Constitution was toilet paper, and got carried away with her dictatorship.Eventually the people will RISE Up against her. Once you refuse to follow the Constitution, it is the duty of Americans to get rid of it. Peacefully prefered, but armed struggle would be legitimate.

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

I highly doubt anybody here wished him to die. But I am sure that people said "If he was assassinated, nobody would be upset about it".

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

Ah, sorry. You are confusing us with your fake news.

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

Overall negated by the many shut down by him.

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

The SS investigated anybody that made Obastard upset.

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

ROFL!! I am originally from Missouri. That is our fake news. The Post Dispatch is a left wing, ass kissing tabloid. So it was a lie. Just like all your liberal fake news outlets.

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

You stated Post Dispatch. Once again, leftwing COMMIE supporting rag.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Nuc,

do you know that the Obama regulations are not in effect yet? It is not the regulations which are stopping the need for coal, it is the free market..

Much information about this is only a keystroke away, this is one of many pertinent articles..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/peabody-coal-bankruptcy_us_570eacb6e4b0ffa5937e0e7a

Hint: It’s Not Obama That’s Killing The Coal Industry
Peabody Energy’s bankruptcy is further proof that coal is just not a viable U.S. industry anymore.
By Kate Sheppard

Peabody Energy, the world’s largest privately-owned coal company, filed for bankruptcy on Wednesday — and it wasn’t because of President Barack Obama’s so-called war on coal.

Peabody cited “unprecedented industry downturn” in its its statement announcing the bankruptcy filing. “Industry pressures in recent years include a dramatic drop in the price of metallurgical coal, weakness in the Chinese economy, overproduction of domestic shale gas and ongoing regulatory challenges,” the St. Louis-based company said.

Yes, the Peabody statement does cite “regulatory challenges” — but only after listing much more powerful market forces undermining the industry globally.

Peabody Energy joins Arch Coal, Alpha Natural Resources, and Patriot Coal among American coal companies that have filed for bankruptcy in recent months.

While environmental regulations do affect the industry, the major Obama administration rules that coal’s defenders claim will gut the industry and shut down coal-fired power plants haven’t yet gone into effect. The Clean Power Plan, which curbs greenhouse gas emissions at new and existing power plants, has been paused by the Supreme Court, for now. But even if it survives in court, states don’t have to submit plans for meeting the targets until 2018. The high court also blocked a rule on mercury emissions last year.

So it’s not Obama’s regulations that are killing coal. What’s driving the coal industry into bankruptcy is the free market — competition from cheaper, more abundant natural gas and renewable energy. Meanwhile, the costs of mining coal have increased. Coal production decreased in 2015, and the Energy Information Administration projects it will fall an additional 16 percent this year.

Coal is just no longer a profitable industry in the U.S.

As The Huffington Post has reported, the entire domestic coal industry is now valued at only $22 billion — about $38 billion less than it was five years ago. And as The New York Times editorial board pointed out last month, coal has become a bad investment, period. Banks aren’t financing new coal projects, because it makes no business sense.

Yet you will likely continue to see Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), along with other senators and people who want to be elected senator, argue that Obama is destroying the coal industry.

Do you have information you want to share with HuffPost? Here’s how.

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

Nuff said. FAKE News.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

How convenient your selective memory. It's like you don't remember Obama's brag that he would shut down and destroy the coal industry and immediately proceeded to do just that.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Perhaps you can provide a link>>>

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I could but I won't! I did, however, go on line and there are numerous articles if you would choose to get off your dead end and on your dying feet and look for yourself. I recall vividly his photo op on TV patting himself on the back for shutting down the majority of coal powered power plants. I recall also the billions he wasted on Solendra and other bankrupt entities he claimed would supplement the growing need for power. FYI - under the town of Gillette, Wyoming and surrounding area alone, there is enough coal to supply the entire nations demand for energy WITH ALL PROJECTED GAINS IN INDUSTRY for the next 300 years.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

mike,

While, I find only the repeated story about this over and over, I also find the facts in also dozens of stories.. The first report left out some key words by Obama, who was not yet President. And that does make a difference. It is liying by omission.. so favored by the right wing press, put things out of context or simply leave out a part that matters..

I will point out again that it is market forces which are ending coal and not the clean energy plan which is not even in effect yet..

Unlike you, I am not afrad to post my proof..



Fact Checker
The repeated claim that Obama vowed to bankrupt coal plants

Two new ads by GOP-leaning Crossroads GPS slam Kentucky Democratic Senate nominee Alison Lundergan Grimes with a similar themethat Obama vowed to bankrupt the coal industry. (The second ad, a 15-second hit, says: She says she supports coal but she backed Obama after he vowed to bankrupt coal.

This made us wonder: When did the president make such a statement? (For her part, Grimes also runs ads saying she opposes Obama on gun, coal and the EPA.The ad makes the dubious connection that because she, as a Democrat, supports Obama and because Obama hates coal, shes anti-coal)

The Facts

Crossroads spokesman Paul Lindsay pointed us to an interview that Obama gave to the San Francisco Chronicle in January 2008 before he became president. He was then just a senator, but he was running for president, and he was asked about his proposal for an aggressive cap-and-trade system to limit greenhouse gas emissions and provide incentives to turn to new technologies. Lindsey sent us this clip:

In the clip, Obama says: So if somebody wants to build a coal power plant, they can. Its just that it will bankrupt them because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas thats being emitted.

On the surface, it seems pretty cut and dried. But its just a 12-second clip. What did Obama say in the rest of his answer?

This is what came before that statement, which was prompted by question asking how he squared his support for coal and his promise to limit greenhouse gas emissions, given that coal is considered such a pollutant.

This notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion, because the fact of the matter is that right now, we are getting a lot of our energy from coal, and China is building a coal-fired plant once a week. So what we have to do then is we have to figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon. And how can we sequester that carbon and capture it? If we cant, then were going to still be working on alternatives.

Then Obama goes on to describe his version of a cap-and-trade system, which he said would create market in which whatever technologies out there are being presented, whatever power plants are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted-down caps that are imposed every year. Then he said the sentence that forms the basis for this bankrupt claim.

In other words, Obama was talking about disincentives to building coal-powered plants with old technology, not coal plants with cleaner technology. Thats an important distinction. He is also talking about a hypothetical, not making a vow to bankrupt coal operators.

The full interview can be seen here. (The coal discussion starts at 25:15.)

As for Obamas cap-and-trade proposal, it never emerged from Congress. The administration has announced rules to cut carbon dioxide emissions from existing power plants by up to 30 percent by 2030, compared to 2005 levels, which certainly could be fodder for an ad but thats not the same thing as a snippet of a conversation from nearly seven years ago.

The Pinocchio Test

This is another one of those gotcha statements, when an inartfully worded statement is treated as a moment of high policy. In context, its clear that Obama made no vow to bankrupt coal operators though he clearly wanted to push for a system that would promote cleaner uses of coal and other forms of energy and a phase-out of dirtier plants. Given that his old proposal is dead and buried, it seems odd to dredge it up again and again.

Two Pinocchios

I can do more if you wish, but I think you have seen all this before and simply will not admit that Obama is right.. as in correct, and good for the nation. Unlike the orange cyst who is only looking at his own pocket book..

Have a continued great day...

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I eagerly anticipated the one progressive article that would skew the many other articles that contradict the "fact checker" who always go counterclockwise to truth. I read most all of them and I actually baited you to pull up the one article you posted.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

If you are unwilling to bring any single copy of all those articles, which are simply echos of the original, I feel no pressure about what I post at all..]]\

The truth is as I gave it, if the lie you love was the base for 100 articles it is not greater then the original lie.

Mine showed what was really said, who omitted the vital part, when the statement was made and what the consequence of it were.

That is, nothing at all came about from that interview, all the fabrication has been made by wishful people only..

Also, very old news.. Lets twist apart your orange cyst.. We have much more to work with when he tweets..

ANd no end to the the slams the world is giving him.. He is indeed a universal subject..