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Aug 13, 2017 14:18:03   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
DJRich wrote:
Why, it is that trump WON the election and hillary lost, so get over it and accept that trump is president.

That is a true enough statement, so why do the rightwingers, rebels, southerners and their supporters, and confederates fail to accept that the south LOST the civil war, repeat they LOST, and losers did not get to set the agenda.

What is it that those aforementioned are so fond of saying?

Oh yeah, they are BUTT-HURT big time, and still need some salve or ointment for the pain
Why, it is that trump WON the election and hillary... (show quote)



FYI, DJRich, The Confederacy did NOT, I repeat NOT, lose the misnamed Civil War (It should be called The War for Confederate Secession - TWCS.) The major surrender was by General Robert E. Lee of The Army of Northern Virginia to General Ulysses S. Grant of The Army of The Potomac. As Charley Reese pointed out, The Confederacy never surrendered. And although Lee had surrendered, skirmishes continued for weeks, months and maybe years. But it's a valid argument that The Confederacy is still out there somewhere.

The entire matter of government surrender is very important. It validates successor governments of the defeated. As the Allies closed in on Berlin as Germany neared collapse at the end of WWII, one general/government official went to great effort to make sure that there was a valid surrender. That was so that no one could make the claim that the government of Hitler continued and make claim to it. To my knowledge no one ever did.

Just like the Germans, The Confederacy had many good & principled generals, men of far more principle than you and they deserve recognition.

How does it feel to have your major statement blown out of the water? You deal in misrepresentations, half-truths and sophistry.

And just so you're aware - secession movements are afoot in California, Vermont and New York City; all places infested with your fellow liberal slugs. Maybe you should move to one of them.

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Aug 13, 2017 15:06:20   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
FYI, DJRich, The Confederacy did NOT, I repeat NOT, lose the misnamed Civil War (It should be called The War for Confederate Secession - TWCS.) The major surrender was by General Robert E. Lee of The Army of Northern Virginia to General Ulysses S. Grant of The Army of The Potomac. As Charley Reese pointed out, The Confederacy never surrendered. And although Lee had surrendered, skirmishes continued for weeks, months and maybe years. But it's a valid argument that The Confederacy is still out there somewhere.

The entire matter of government surrender is very important. It validates successor governments of the defeated. As the Allies closed in on Berlin as Germany neared collapse at the end of WWII, one general/government official went to great effort to make sure that there was a valid surrender. That was so that no one could make the claim that the government of Hitler continued and make claim to it. To my knowledge no one ever did.

Just like the Germans, The Confederacy had many good & principled generals, men of far more principle than you and they deserve recognition.

How does it feel to have your major statement blown out of the water? You deal in misrepresentations, half-truths and sophistry.

And just so you're aware - secession movements are afoot in California, Vermont and New York City; all places infested with your fellow liberal slugs. Maybe you should move to one of them.
FYI, DJRich, The Confederacy did NOT, I repeat NOT... (show quote)

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secession movements are afoot in California, Vermont and New York City

and what are they gonna do when the hard working -taxpayers-move out and take their businesses with them? They will become 3rd world shit holes like Venezuela begging for help AND ILLEGALLY CROSSING THE BORDER like Mexicans are now.

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Aug 13, 2017 15:13:17   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
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secession movements are afoot in California, Vermont and New York City

and what are they gonna do when the hard working -taxpayers-move out and take their businesses with them? They will become 3rd world shit holes like Venezuela begging for help AND ILLEGALLY CROSSING THE BORDER like Mexicans are now.



That's why I suggested the DJRich move to one of them. He deserves them.


And BTW, what do you think the odds are that he will answer my posting? Based on past experience with him and tdsrnest, Cool Breeze, Nikolai, etc., he likely never will.

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Aug 13, 2017 15:45:41   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
That's why I suggested the DJRich move to one of them. He deserves them.


And BTW, what do you think the odds are that he will answer my posting? Based on past experience with him and tdsrnest, Cool Breeze, Nikolai, etc., he likely never will.

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I do not understand people like the ones you mentioned and I don't understand how they can live with themselves.

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Aug 13, 2017 16:32:58   #
cephusbob
 
I wasn't born in The South , I was born in Pennsylvania and lived there until I graduated from high school and I lived in California for 30 years. Point is I live in the South now but I'm hardly a Southerner and this bullshit of attempting to remove all traces of the Confederacy from history is disgusting. It happened so why try to remove it. Maybe we should remove all traces of the Civil Right movement too? Ohhhhhhh you'll have a shit storm now lmao. Libtards have been attempting to rewrite history forever. That disgusts me.

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Aug 13, 2017 16:37:04   #
cephusbob
 
PS the local high school sports teams were know as the Rebels until 2007 . The some libtards got elected to the local school board and started fighting to change it immediately. Now they are the Red Hawks (ugh). The Rebel name had a lot of history here and I know plenty of people that still wear the Monroe Rebel t shirts.

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Aug 13, 2017 16:46:44   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
cephusbob wrote:
PS the local high school sports teams were know as the Rebels until 2007 . The some libtards got elected to the local school board and started fighting to change it immediately. Now they are the Red Hawks (ugh). The Rebel name had a lot of history here and I know plenty of people that still wear the Monroe Rebel t shirts.

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Liberals are just Communist with a different name and Communist are always changing history to suit themselves

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Aug 13, 2017 19:51:24   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
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Liberals are just Communist with a different name and Communist are always changing history to suit themselves



They are Communists but I never really thought about the changing history part but that is a good observation. Things went down the memory hole in 1984, as I recall.

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Aug 14, 2017 02:08:26   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
archie bunker wrote:
I wasn't griping about who lost what. I merely offered a suggestion using your own logic.
See, Texas wasn't part of the Confederacy. Those aren't my heros. Nor, are they yours.

However, it IS a part of the history of this nation, and it shouldn't be removed because a certain group of people need a hug every time they think about it.

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Archie, you neglect to mention that it is the winner who directs and writes history - not the loser.

This is similar to "Clinton lost so get over it." When will the south get over it? It seems they just can't accept that issue.

I have a question for you: Why is it that the skinhead Nazis are based in the South?

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Aug 14, 2017 04:01:32   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Alicia wrote:
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Archie, you neglect to mention that it is the winner who directs and writes history - not the loser.

This is similar to "Clinton lost so get over it." When will the south get over it? It seems they just can't accept that issue.

I have a question for you: Why is it that the skinhead Nazis are based in the South?


I have no idea about skinheads, or nazis.
I have a question for you.

Why have these statues, and memorials just become a problem in the last few years after being there for decades?

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Aug 14, 2017 05:19:16   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
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I do not understand people like the ones you mentioned and I don't understand how they can live with themselves.

They are only happy when they disseminate their misery. They despise everyone. They hate America. They can live with themselves because they know they are better than everyone.

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Aug 14, 2017 05:23:50   #
okie don
 
" United we STAND, Divided we Fall"
How many times have we all heard this quote?
The Socialist/Marxist/Communists are working on it.

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Sep 1, 2017 01:30:04   #
acknowledgeurma
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
FYI, DJRich, The Confederacy did NOT, I repeat NOT, lose the misnamed Civil War (It should be called The War for Confederate Secession - TWCS.) The major surrender was by General Robert E. Lee of The Army of Northern Virginia to General Ulysses S. Grant of The Army of The Potomac. As Charley Reese pointed out, The Confederacy never surrendered. And although Lee had surrendered, skirmishes continued for weeks, months and maybe years. But it's a valid argument that The Confederacy is still out there somewhere.

The entire matter of government surrender is very important. It validates successor governments of the defeated. As the Allies closed in on Berlin as Germany neared collapse at the end of WWII, one general/government official went to great effort to make sure that there was a valid surrender. That was so that no one could make the claim that the government of Hitler continued and make claim to it. To my knowledge no one ever did.

Just like the Germans, The Confederacy had many good & principled generals, men of far more principle than you and they deserve recognition.

How does it feel to have your major statement blown out of the water? You deal in misrepresentations, half-truths and sophistry.

And just so you're aware - secession movements are afoot in California, Vermont and New York City; all places infested with your fellow liberal slugs. Maybe you should move to one of them.
FYI, DJRich, The Confederacy did NOT, I repeat NOT... (show quote)


Dear crazylibertarian,

You almost had me, then I realized you were just testing the validity of Poe's Law. The redundancy in your moniker gave you away. crazy libertarian! I like it. Thanks for the laugh.

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Sep 1, 2017 02:04:56   #
acknowledgeurma
 
DJRich wrote:
Why, it is that trump WON the election and hillary lost, so get over it and accept that trump is president.

That is a true enough statement, so why do the rightwingers, rebels, southerners and their supporters, and confederates fail to accept that the south LOST the civil war, repeat they LOST, and losers did not get to set the agenda.

What is it that those aforementioned are so fond of saying?

Oh yeah, they are BUTT-HURT big time, and still need some salve or ointment for the pain
Why, it is that trump WON the election and hillary... (show quote)


You wrote, "[confederate apologists] fail to accept that the south LOST the civil war..."

However, you don't seem to understand, that all the south (and the rest of the USA) lost was the right to hold "black" people in chattel slavery. Very little changed in the power structure in the south after Reconstruction was given up and federal troops withdrawn. White supremacy culture still holds sway in the USA. :(

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Sep 1, 2017 05:36:20   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Dear crazylibertarian,

You almost had me, then I realized you were just testing the validity of Poe's Law. The redundancy in your moniker gave you away. crazy libertarian! I like it. Thanks for the laugh.



It reminds you of stupid liberal.

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